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    • cuddlymarm
    • By cuddlymarm 12th Jun 18, 1:39 PM
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    Prepping for Brexit thread
    • #1
    • 12th Jun 18, 1:39 PM
    Prepping for Brexit thread 12th Jun 18 at 1:39 PM
    Hi guys
    Iím pretty well resolved to the fact that Brexit is going to affect us all. I donít want this thread to be a good or bad, right or wrong type thing.
    Just a positive, what can we prepare to make life easier, less expensive, less disruptive when it does happen.

    My aims are to stock up on items I think are going to get more expensive. Also to try and save up an emergency fund ( that will be slow going as OH took early retirement due to illness) and Iím unemployed at the moment.

    So my aims are to work out what items need to be stocked up
    To look for a job
    To live as frugally as possible while eating healthily
    To make sure the savings we have already donít get touched

    So guys please feel free to join in and list anything you think may be affected. Or just to comment. That way we can help each other.

    Hope to hear from you all soon
    Cuddles
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    • moneyistooshorttomention
    • By moneyistooshorttomention 13th Jul 18, 4:16 PM
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    ...and personally then yep...it does look rather like we will get "Brexit" in name - but in practice = darn all happening that's any different (at least if Theresa May has anything to do with it). It does look somewhat like we will still be dictated to by Europe if she has her way. What British politician runs something past a foreign politician (ie Angela Merkel) to start with?!!!!

    In that case - the politicians might just as well get rid of her imo - sooner the better.
    Never doubt that a small group of people can change the world. It's the only thing that ever has.

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    • MrsLurcherwalker
    • By MrsLurcherwalker 13th Jul 18, 4:42 PM
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    Go do her job then, if you can do it better stand for parliament, get yourself elected and go and sort out Brexit, I suspect it's like walking a tightrope blindfolded in the dark trying to sort out something as intricate as Brexit I wouldn't have a clue where to start and I don't envy the politicians who DO have to do it.
    Thumpers mum was right - if you can't find anything nice to say don't say anything at all!
    • fuddle
    • By fuddle 13th Jul 18, 5:04 PM
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    I would be more worried that negotiations were hell bent on walking away while thumbing their nose. Hard or soft, change is afoot in areas that just weren't right for just over half of our population.

    In my opinion the EU try to hold every dealing they have over a barrel and that isn't changing here. This mess is getting messier because the EU are making it so. To my mind they have everything to loose but are better at the game than us. It's difficult to negotiate when you're stuck between a rock and a hard place but be under no illusion both us and the EU need these talks to go well. We're not going to get all we want no, but I feel like 'we' have panicked and are set to go in too easy. I feel we've shown our final hand somewhat so my worry is how far over the barrel will the EU now try to push us.
    Be like a tree.
    Stay grounded. Connect with your roots. Turn over a new leaf.
    Bend before you break. Enjoy your natural beauty. Keep growing.
    • Jojo the Tightfisted
    • By Jojo the Tightfisted 13th Jul 18, 7:28 PM
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    CUDDLES an old wartime dodge to extend how much tea you have was to pick, shred (stainless steel knife only) young bramble leaves, spread them out on absorbent paper and leave them in a cool dry place to dry for a few days. This was mixed with the tea ration (can also apparently be used on it's own) to make it go further. People also used to use tea leaves (no tea bags then) and then dry them to be added back into the tea ration and again you had an extender. I haven't tried the bramble leaves as a tea but it was common practise and apparently on their own they taste like china tea. We have an awful lot of wild blackberries in this country so maybe we'd be OK?
    Originally posted by MrsLurcherwalker
    I believe raspberry tea is supposed to be efficacious as well!
    Originally posted by Living proof
    From drinking it for its reputed advantages when cooking two kids, I can say without doubt that Raspberry leaf tea is possibly the most vile concoction on this green and pleasant earth.

    Camomile tea - great. Mint tea - lovely. Even Apple Peel tea (pinch of cinnamon and a little sweetner) is lovely.

    But anything related to brambles - like infusing the contents of the vacuum cleaner after it's been used to clear up what the cat has kicked out of its tray.


    I think that, irrespective of the political side of things/whether or not the idea of being 'independent' appeals, the People will all end up on the pointy end of things whilst the politicians skip off to their chateaus and overseas registered companies and do very nicely, thank you very much.

    So I have bought a nice little freezer and will be stocking that with things we actually need, along with lots of pulses and ingredients in the cupboards, particularly as I'm likely to lose my job within the next 12 months (schools which have a considerable intake from the EU won't be needing as many staff when they don't have so many children, after all - application numbers have already plummeted and many families have already returned to their original countries this year) and being unable to eat is only marginally worse in my view than being unable to pay rent or council tax without having to endure the horrors of the UK benefits system.
    I could dream to wide extremes, I could do or die: I could yawn and be withdrawn and watch the world go by.

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    Originally posted by colinw
    • MrsStepford
    • By MrsStepford 13th Jul 18, 7:42 PM
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    Drat, thought I had found a use for neighbour's invading brambles ! Mint tea is gorgeous.

    Got my eye on a freezer in a sale A+ energy rating. stainless steel £349 hope to have a look in person Sunday. MrStepford needs to clear understairs space for it.

    ASDA delivery today was pretty much all tins and bottles. Olive oil, dripping, chopped tomatoes, pickled mushrooms, wild Alaskan pink salmon, pickled peppers, Swiss vegetable bouillon powder..

    Mr Stepford went to Sainsbury's last night and stocked up on cannellini, black, butter and red kidney beans.

    I'm not getting into the political stuff because ignorance of the EU is rife in UK and that was a big part of the reason for the Leave vote. One of my friends now is a former MEP and I've learned a lot from him.
    Last edited by MrsStepford; 13-07-2018 at 8:05 PM.
    • MrsLurcherwalker
    • By MrsLurcherwalker 13th Jul 18, 7:47 PM
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    You apparently have to let the bramble leaves ferment to get the 'china tea' taste, I haven't tried it myself and it's suggested that the young leaves as they start growing are the best but I've read somewhere else (and I guess it was wartime so things must have been dire) that they were actually harvested and used for as long as there were leaves on the brambles.
    Thumpers mum was right - if you can't find anything nice to say don't say anything at all!
    • Primrose
    • By Primrose 13th Jul 18, 8:05 PM
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    Let's not go into roast ground acorn coffee then ! I understand that is pretty dire too.
    • MrsLurcherwalker
    • By MrsLurcherwalker 13th Jul 18, 8:31 PM
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    Dandelion roots can be roasted until dark brown and then ground to make an ersatz coffee and you can buy that still as an instant coffee in a jar in wholefood/health food shops, I've tried it and it's not at all bad.
    Thumpers mum was right - if you can't find anything nice to say don't say anything at all!
    • fuddle
    • By fuddle 13th Jul 18, 9:14 PM
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    I'm not getting into the political stuff because ignorance of the EU is rife in UK and that was a big part of the reason for the Leave vote. One of my friends now is a former MEP and I've learned a lot from him.
    Originally posted by MrsStepford
    Just a thought but maybe if ignorance of the EU is rife amongst our country then maybe the remainders could have educated the ignorant during the Referendum campaign instead of bolstering the red top rags with hints of a world war, the end of Western civilisation and the collapse of the NHS due to a faltering economy.

    Both sides scare mongered and falsified. There was plenty to educate the people one way or another but that isn't the style of the Politician I fear. Politicians, in my opinion, like to think they're able to keep the general populous in a state of ignorance.

    Cameron tried to get the EU onside for for a new settlement for the UK. All this could have been avoided but the EU had the bloke over that barrel.

    It doesn't matter what side we're on or what we believe but I think it's important to stand up for your side in a debate, not being derogatory to the opposing side in order to get a point across or take away credibility.
    Be like a tree.
    Stay grounded. Connect with your roots. Turn over a new leaf.
    Bend before you break. Enjoy your natural beauty. Keep growing.
    • melanzana
    • By melanzana 13th Jul 18, 9:23 PM
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    Well the spirit of the Blitz is back so it seems.

    But is so totally unnecessary really IMV.

    But here we are again years later because Brexit is top dog, and no one realises the consequences. Do they?

    Why is this happening, and what are the benefits, could someone tell me please!

    Imagine people talking about prepping and drinking leaves of the brambles and so on. Honestly.
    Last edited by melanzana; 13-07-2018 at 9:25 PM.
    • cuddlymarm
    • By cuddlymarm 13th Jul 18, 9:57 PM
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    Hi guys
    Everyone has their own view of what could/should happen with Brexit. Also everyone has their own way of dealing with it. Personally I want to have extra stores in and savings put away. Mainly because although I donít think we will get there again, I started married life with a mortgage with a 15% interest rate and more recently was pushed into bankruptcy in 2010. Empty cupboards, owing money and an empty bank account scare me.
    Some of the preppers here are looking at how we coped in the war because people managed on next to nothing. Some are stocking up with tins. Some are growing their own food. Some are changing their eating habits.
    All these views are personal and acceptable.
    So please try and respect other peopleís ideas and views.

    I donít think the EU and Brexit is the only problem we face. Other world leaders. Bad weather. Wars dislodging families. Cutbacks. Just to name a few and a little bit of organisation makes me feel slightly more in control.

    Anyway enough of that
    TTFN
    Cuddles
    • mardatha
    • By mardatha 13th Jul 18, 9:59 PM
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    It's common for people to laugh at preppers. But we all know in here what happens when you don't prep. Then people stop laughing
    • fuddle
    • By fuddle 14th Jul 18, 7:05 AM
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    cuddlymarm we had the same awful thing happen in 2009 with the recession and banking crisis. Empty cupboards scare me too. Debt doesn't as we avoid it like the plague but we have got a small mortgage now and the fear of losing my home again is with me every day.

    This is why I come from the angle I do. I can't imagine Brexit and what follows being any worse than what my family have already been through. We coped and actually, eventually, we flourished. People's experiences shape them. I keep a close eye on politics and issues of the world and refute that I'm ignorant.Comingbat it from a different angle, yes, but not ignorant.
    Be like a tree.
    Stay grounded. Connect with your roots. Turn over a new leaf.
    Bend before you break. Enjoy your natural beauty. Keep growing.
    • moneyistooshorttomention
    • By moneyistooshorttomention 14th Jul 18, 7:26 AM
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    That's certainly a "thought for the day" - ie re how peoples experiences shape them.

    It's a thought that probably never strikes many people just how much their own environment/life has shaped them until they're out of it for whatever reason - and watching other people that have been shaped by their own environment and don't realise it.
    Never doubt that a small group of people can change the world. It's the only thing that ever has.

    Extinction Rebellion
    • kittie
    • By kittie 14th Jul 18, 7:29 AM
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    People's experiences shape them.
    Originally posted by fuddle

    well said, very much so. I completely and wholeheartedly agree.

    Trouble being that so many youngsters don`t have that depth of experience, the wise words that came from parents who learnt from grandparents and also from the local community. Having said that, all these wise words are just that ie words and learnt experiences are the most effective, the ones that ignite the learning process. What a boring world if we didn`t have those twists and bends in the road, if everyone stayed in their boring comfort zone, never to stretch themselves beyond what is familiar
    • maryb
    • By maryb 14th Jul 18, 8:16 AM
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    I've learned over the years that things often turn out differently from the predictions of experts. If they were that expert they'd be wealthy and off sunning themselves somewhere. Once you get round the bend in the road the view may look a lot nicer as the scenery unfolds often in proportion to the pessimism with which you approached it

    And I think that something that has so far not really featured in the debate may come to affect us far more. And that is the increasing use and sophistication of robots. The big underlying issue of the last few centuries has been the division of the rewards of economic activity between capital and labour. I think that will evolve into an argument about how to distribute wealth when labour is irrelevant. And European countries that have worried about a demographic deficit and declining population will find that deficit does not exist.

    I'm staying put. You don't want to be an outsider in a country that is going through tumult and if it turns out badly we are certainly better off on our own.
    It doesn't matter if you are a glass half full or half empty sort of person. Keep it topped up! Cheers!
    • Nargleblast
    • By Nargleblast 14th Jul 18, 8:21 AM
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    And as I said previously, no country ever left the EU before so it is a completely new learning experience for everyone. Even those politicians who live and work in Brussels, whilst not working totally in the dark, can only hazard a guess as to the outcome and the consequences of that outcome. It would have been much the same when the two world wars broke out last century, families with no experience of conflict and hardship suddenly found they could no longer take their old lifestyles for granted.

    Prepping-wise I can understand melanzana's bemusement at the apparent doom, gloom and panic going on. As others have said, it makes sense to get your finances tidy, get your homes and your food cupboards in good order and maybe have access to a cash float in a safe place in case cash machines stop working. All this is good solid everyday common sense, regardless of what is going on in the world. If I were a gambling sort I would bet that things will go on much the same in people's everyday lives after we leave the EU, just the same as when we joined it and when we went through decimalisation. The wheel of the year turns, politicians come and go, today's big news is tomorrow's history, and through it all Joe and Josephine Public get on with their lives.
    One life - your life - live it!


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    • MrsLurcherwalker
    • By MrsLurcherwalker 14th Jul 18, 9:06 AM
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    Just to put things into perspective DD1 is an Historian, she is a department head at her school and she and I both have an interest area of 'WW2 Home Front' life. We have researched and found just how innovative people were in making the best of what must have been the most dire situation on all fronts. The knowledge of making bramble tea may not seem relevant in 2018 BUT in a time of possible coming shortages of supplies for whatever reason causes it isn't it a tiny and useful thing to still know how to extend your tea leaves and make it possible to have more? the same with the dandelion coffee, it's still made commercially but I don't think keeping quirky knowledge like that in the public domaine is a bad or harmful thing. We have lived most of our lives and for me that's 70 years in a time of peace and prosperity, I know nothing else but am old enough to remember from childhood my parents friends and aquaintances talking about life in WW2 so have some idea of the hardship they endured. I see no harm in keeping 'how to's' alive but if you don't like the content of a thread there is no obligation to read the posts is there?
    Thumpers mum was right - if you can't find anything nice to say don't say anything at all!
    • mardatha
    • By mardatha 14th Jul 18, 10:31 AM
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    Absolutely MrsL. I had the kind of mother who never spoke at all about the past, and if asked would tell me to stop talking silly nonsense and go and do something useful instead. Maybe with a different mum I too would be a Historian because I love all that stuff .
    • mardatha
    • By mardatha 14th Jul 18, 10:33 AM
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    Did anybody read this?
    https://blog.oup.com/2018/07/brexit-threatens-food-supplies-eu/
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