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    • dontlikemondays
    • By dontlikemondays 22nd May 18, 12:28 PM
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    Dental Bridge over a gap of 2 missing teeth-Can it be done?
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    • 22nd May 18, 12:28 PM
    Dental Bridge over a gap of 2 missing teeth-Can it be done? 22nd May 18 at 12:28 PM
    Hi Guys,

    Been a few years since my last dental problem but here we go again.
    Had a bridge over a gap of one tooth which was great for years, but last week the cap came away. What's left is a ground down rotted and infected tooth which has to be removed.

    That leaves me with a gap of 2 teeth now so dentist has said need a denture fixing. However, I want another bridge. They have said.
    they can't do a 2 gap bridge. Surely this is the same procedure but with a bigger gap. In fact my brother has one I'm sure.

    Can a 2 tooth gap bridge be done? I can't see any reason why it can't!
    Anyone know please?
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    • dontlikemondays
    • By dontlikemondays 30th Oct 18, 12:38 PM
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    Seems like I have upset some people on here saying what I believe is the truth. Dentists don't have your best interests at heart. They are simply guided by money.
    This isn't how a NHS dentist should be.

    I went to the dentist again recently with a chipped tooth. It simply needed a filling. According to NHS bands, this should be 59.10
    It takes 5 mins.
    "Sorry Mr Idontlikemondays, we don't do white fillings on the NHS (even thought the NHS says it can) so it will cost you 110 to have it done privately."
    It's the same story everytime you visit or whichever one you visit. The NHS shouldn't be a license to print money for Dentist. This is where it's all gone wrong.
    They simply won't do a filling anymore. It's got to be a Bridge or a Crown or Implants at 7,000.
    The whole industry needs overhauling and put back into proper NHS hands!
    Oh and I'm still stuck with a plastic denture that looks and feels terrible because I can't afford the 800+ for a 2 gap tooth bridge. It's a joke!
    • brook2jack
    • By brook2jack 30th Oct 18, 4:41 PM
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    NHS dentistry is there to secure health. In general that will be done in the most economic way possible.

    In general white fillings will be provided on front teeth only (on adults) and silver (amalgam) fillings on back teeth.

    You may prefer to have a white filling on a back tooth but , in general, you will have to pay for that privately.

    Dentistry has always been provided by independent contractors , other than for community dentists, hospital , prison and military dentists.

    This is just as well because the cost of providing dentistry is very very expensive. A cheap independent NHS practice will cost around 140 plus per hour per room to run. The average treatment cost in total is around 36 per person treated. In a NHS run access centre it is around 450 per person treated.

    In other words if the NHS did take dentistry under its wing without even the cost of buying,equipping the thousands of practices it would cost over ten times more!
    • humptydumptybits
    • By humptydumptybits 30th Oct 18, 6:14 PM
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    I'd hate it if I couldn't find a dentist. To brook2jack and toothsmith can I say most people value and appreciate the work you do. I'm 65, have all my teeth but probably half have fillings. I hate the thought of dentures and see my dentist twice a year and hygienist 4 times a year and work with them in the hope I can avoid dentures.



    The OP is totally ignoring the fact that there is more to making anything than 2 hrs work, you need equipment, premises, insurance as well as the training to do it. Some people can't see the nose on their face.
    • Toothsmith
    • By Toothsmith 31st Oct 18, 9:36 AM
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    The whole industry needs overhauling and put back into proper NHS hands!
    Originally posted by dontlikemondays
    Ok - {waves his magic wand} You're in charge.

    You're going to put dentistry back in 'proper NHS hands'

    How?

    You can have my practice - and the other 10,000 odd in the country. The most recent valuation of mine was just under 300k - so multiply that by 10,000 and that's 30 mil to buy the infrastructure (And mine is just a small practice, so the figure will undoubtedly be much more)

    Or to you take them by force?

    Will you want the 250k building too? Or will you rent that off me?

    Then - you're still going to need me to work in it - so are you going to pay me a salary (Which means I'm paid just the same if I see 3 patients a day or 100) or do you give me some sort of 'target' based income? How much? It would be great to get sick pay for the first time in my career, and holiday pay!

    What if I don't like the deal? Can I leave dentistry and earn money a different way? Can I go abroad instead to work somewhere where my skills are appreciated? Or are you going to change human rights law, take my passport and pay 'minders' to watch over me and make sure I go to work?

    What sort of dentistry do you want me to do for everybody who comes?

    The very best I can do? White fillings everywhere for everybody? Implants when teeth fall out? Everything equally for everybody? They tried this in 1947 when the NHS was set up, and the only treatments were extractions and dentures - and it lasted a year before NHS charges and limits had to be introduced!!

    Or do you make some people more 'worthy' than others? People like you get exactly what they want, and anyone else doesn't? Do you monitor people's sugar intake and toothbrushing and only those with the right 'points' get the good treatments, the rest get extractions & dentures? Who sets the benchmarks? People who 'know' things, or just people who 'believe' they are right?

    Ok Mr Idontlikemondays - over to you. You have the power. How would you do it?
    Last edited by Toothsmith; 31-10-2018 at 9:43 AM.
    How to find a dentist.
    1. Get recommendations from friends/family/neighbours/etc.
    2. Once you have a short-list, VISIT the practices - dont just phone. Go on the pretext of getting a Practice Leaflet.
    3. Assess the helpfulness of the staff and the level of the facilities.
    4. Only book initial appointment when you find a place you are happy with.
    • clairec79
    • By clairec79 31st Oct 18, 9:49 PM
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    While there may be some dentist justs out to make money the same as in any profession I don't believe the majority are

    I somehow ended up with a credit to my dental account - the only thing that I could put it down to was I'd had a root filling on a tooth which about a month later caused major problems and I needed to have an extraction (dentist did warn me), all of a sudden I was quite a lot in credit with the dentist (about the level of a root canal treatment), all the receptionist could tell me was I'd paid for something I shouldn't have.

    If they were just out for money they'd have kept what I'd paid them, plus for any other course of treatment, because I was happy to pay
    • roddydogs
    • By roddydogs 1st Nov 18, 9:16 AM
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    My dentist said that bridges are not liked now, as they are too invasive, for 1 gap a maryland bridge may be more suitable.
    • dontlikemondays
    • By dontlikemondays 6th Nov 18, 7:26 PM
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    Ok - {waves his magic wand} You're in charge.

    You're going to put dentistry back in 'proper NHS hands'

    How?

    You can have my practice - and the other 10,000 odd in the country. The most recent valuation of mine was just under 300k - so multiply that by 10,000 and that's 30 mil to buy the infrastructure (And mine is just a small practice, so the figure will undoubtedly be much more)

    Or to you take them by force?

    Will you want the 250k building too? Or will you rent that off me?

    Then - you're still going to need me to work in it - so are you going to pay me a salary (Which means I'm paid just the same if I see 3 patients a day or 100) or do you give me some sort of 'target' based income? How much? It would be great to get sick pay for the first time in my career, and holiday pay!

    What if I don't like the deal? Can I leave dentistry and earn money a different way? Can I go abroad instead to work somewhere where my skills are appreciated? Or are you going to change human rights law, take my passport and pay 'minders' to watch over me and make sure I go to work?

    What sort of dentistry do you want me to do for everybody who comes?

    The very best I can do? White fillings everywhere for everybody? Implants when teeth fall out? Everything equally for everybody? They tried this in 1947 when the NHS was set up, and the only treatments were extractions and dentures - and it lasted a year before NHS charges and limits had to be introduced!!

    Or do you make some people more 'worthy' than others? People like you get exactly what they want, and anyone else doesn't? Do you monitor people's sugar intake and toothbrushing and only those with the right 'points' get the good treatments, the rest get extractions & dentures? Who sets the benchmarks? People who 'know' things, or just people who 'believe' they are right?

    Ok Mr Idontlikemondays - over to you. You have the power. How would you do it?
    Originally posted by Toothsmith
    I think you will find "Toothsmith" that I don't have to answer any questions you have for me. To be fair I didn't even read your pathetic excuses for GREED. Yes, that is exactly what the Dentist industry as become.
    Every visit I make to these leeches only makes me more sure it needs a complete overhaul.

    I visited a new dentist regarding my small filling and guess what, they will do it for 59 NHS which is half price the previous dentist wanted for a "private white filling". Will it be white I asked. Yes, was the answer (so far so good I suppose)
    But still 59 for 5 mins work. No wonder "Toothsmith" defends his profession with such gusto!
    A bit like Turkeys Voting For Xmas if he didn't.!

    It's literally like a license to print money. You can almost see the signs appear as you walk through the door.

    While there I asked about my 2 tooth gap (the one currently filled by dentures) and guess what?
    They can bridge the gap with a "bridge" but only PRIVATE as it's not under the Band 3, and at a cost of 1400
    1400 to grind the 2 teeth either side (20 mins) order the set of 4 plastic teeth and fit them (2 mins)
    It's a total disgrace.
    I asked what about a "Maryland Bridge" with the wings attaching to the good teeth. "Oh we can't do that as the last tooth is too big to attach to" How can the wisdom tooth be too big to attach a wing to, what a load of rubbish.

    Also, under Band 3 NHS in plain english is "Bridge Work", so why does everyone say they won't do them. I think we can guess that answer can't we?

    I rest my case. Greed Greed Greed
    If anyone knows of decent fair minded Dentists who go above and beyond their own pockets. You know, like there used to be, before Greed set in, please let me know, maybe I'm wrong or your just too stupid to realise their ripping you off!
    Last edited by dontlikemondays; 06-11-2018 at 7:29 PM.
    • Twopints
    • By Twopints 6th Nov 18, 8:49 PM
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    I think people get the treatment they deserve.

    Not even wrong
    • brook2jack
    • By brook2jack 7th Nov 18, 12:33 PM
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    by dontlikemondays;75014984
    I visited a new dentist regarding my small filling and guess what, they will do it for 59 NHS which is half price the previous dentist wanted for a "private white filling". Will it be white I asked. Yes, was the answer (so far so good I suppose)
    But still 59 for 5 mins work. No wonder "Toothsmith" defends his profession with such gusto!
    A bit like Turkeys Voting For Xmas if he didn't.!

    It's literally like a license to print money. You can almost see the signs appear as you walk through the door.

    While there I asked about my 2 tooth gap (the one currently filled by dentures) and guess what?
    They can bridge the gap with a "bridge" but only PRIVATE as it's not under the Band 3, and at a cost of 1400
    1400 to grind the 2 teeth either side (20 mins) order the set of 4 plastic teeth and fit them (2 mins)
    It's a total disgrace.
    I asked what about a "Maryland Bridge" with the wings attaching to the good teeth. "Oh we can't do that as the last tooth is too big to attach to" How can the wisdom tooth be too big to attach a wing to, what a load of rubbish.

    Also, under Band 3 NHS in plain english is "Bridge Work", so why does everyone say they won't do them. I think we can guess that answer can't we?

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    Average cost of running a cheap practice in a cheap area per room.. 140 pounds an hour

    Laboratory costs for a private four unit bridge start at 516 pounds and will go up to several thousand depending on materials , gold content of metals ,staining etc, laboratory costs for a four unit bridge on the nhs will be more than the dentist takes in by quite a large factor, in other words the dentist will pay for their time, their practice expenses and the additional lab bill, it costs a dentist to provide a bridge on the NHS.

    bridges are made of porcelain and precious or non precious metal, or pressed ceramic they take many hours of a lab technicians time.

    to prepare , x ray, numb up two teeth , prepare them in a parellel way for a bridge , take impressions , make a four unit temporary bridge, decomtaminate , write up notes and lab forms, set up and clean down a surgery takes an awful lot longer than 20 minutes.

    I have yet to meet the dentist who can fit,adjust a bridge, set up and clean down a surgery , write up notes in 2 minutes!

    Maryland bridges are not used for back teeth and certainly not as far back as a wisdom tooth except as temporaries for eg an implant, Even then they don't last as they can't take that sort of biting strain.

    The NHS is there to secure health. The rotten tooth has been taken out and a denture provided . A bridge does not secure health, perticularly that far back in the mouth even if you might prefer one. The list of NHS treatments does not mean you are entitled to them all , they are there to be used as appropriate to secure dental health. Indeed in the new pilot schemes very few crowns and bridges are done as most peoples oral health is not good enough to warrant them or they are not appropriate.

    Finally your 56 pounds has paid for a check up , provided by a dentist , possibly x rays and your filling. It pays for the dentists, nurses,receptionist,cleaners,decontamination nurses time, the costs of running the surgery and the materials. A 5ml bottle of glue to stick in that white filling costs 90 pounds alone.

    The set up, cleaning down ,paperwork, check up , getting materials out and ready, anaesthetic, getting materials out, filling , smoothing and adjusting cannot possibly be done in 2 minutes.

    I hope this clarifies things for some people reading this thread.
    • Toothsmith
    • By Toothsmith 7th Nov 18, 12:34 PM
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    I think we're just feeding trolls here Brook!
    How to find a dentist.
    1. Get recommendations from friends/family/neighbours/etc.
    2. Once you have a short-list, VISIT the practices - dont just phone. Go on the pretext of getting a Practice Leaflet.
    3. Assess the helpfulness of the staff and the level of the facilities.
    4. Only book initial appointment when you find a place you are happy with.
    • dontlikemondays
    • By dontlikemondays 7th Nov 18, 1:43 PM
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    You making it sound like the Dentists are just about managing.
    I didn't get that impression from the 4 brand new 4x4 cars on the carpark. As they were still there on my second and third visits one can presume they are the Dentists cars.

    I just Googled "average Dentist Pay" and this is what can be seen first page Google snippetts.

    Most dentists are self-employed contractors in general practice, mixing NHS with private work. In this setting you can earn 50,000 to 110,000. Wholly private dentists can earn 140,000+. If you work as a dentist employed by the NHS, mainly in community dental services, you'll earn a salary of 38,861 to 83,118.

    So there you have it, you could earn a very nice 50k-110k just from NHS work, but why the hell would you when you can earn literally anything you want?

    I don't expect the two "tooth fairies" on here to understand. As I said, them agreeing would be like turkeys voting for xmas, but I want people to understand their Dentist isn't the friendly caring NHS employee with your best interest at heart (which is usually the case in our great NHS) Your Dentist has a different agenda and that my friends in need, is to take as much of your hard earned money as they can as quickly as they can.

    Toothsmith asked what I would do about it if I were in charge.
    Well, I'm no expert but what about a cap on NHS dentistry earnings. So, yes, you can work for the NHS as a considerate Dentist but you'll be paid the same a as a Nurse or a Firefighter or policeman, around 28,000.
    "Oh what, you want to drive Lamborghinis and travel first class. Ok, Go private then? Start your own business whatever. Bye"

    That way, we would get the best, people that cared about people in need, rather than their own back pockets!

    Nuff said me thinks!
    • dontlikemondays
    • By dontlikemondays 7th Nov 18, 1:50 PM
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    While there may be some dentist justs out to make money the same as in any profession I don't believe the majority are

    I somehow ended up with a credit to my dental account - the only thing that I could put it down to was I'd had a root filling on a tooth which about a month later caused major problems and I needed to have an extraction (dentist did warn me), all of a sudden I was quite a lot in credit with the dentist (about the level of a root canal treatment), all the receptionist could tell me was I'd paid for something I shouldn't have.

    If they were just out for money they'd have kept what I'd paid them, plus for any other course of treatment, because I was happy to pay
    Originally posted by clairec79
    Ok, fair enough. If I said ALL dentists I shouldn't have. There will obviously be some dentist who are more honest than others, but my experience in general, is that most of them want that something extra from you, a particular trick is to not fill a tooth like they used to, but extract it (It's decayed don't you know) Ok, same band 2 charge of 59.10.

    But now of course you have a gap to be filled, Kerchink!
    Band 3 now 256 for a bridge, oh but wait, they can't span more than one tooth on the NHS (What?) so you need private bridge work at 1400 if your lucky.

    What a state!
    That's where I am. Need a two tooth bridge that they won't do on the NHS but are quite willing to do privately for 1400

    You couldn't make it up!
    • Toothsmith
    • By Toothsmith 7th Nov 18, 2:38 PM
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    You making it sound like the Dentists are just about managing.
    I didn't get that impression from the 4 brand new 4x4 cars on the carpark. As they were still there on my second and third visits one can presume they are the Dentists cars.

    I just Googled "average Dentist Pay" and this is what can be seen first page Google snippetts.

    Most dentists are self-employed contractors in general practice, mixing NHS with private work. In this setting you can earn 50,000 to 110,000. Wholly private dentists can earn 140,000+. If you work as a dentist employed by the NHS, mainly in community dental services, you'll earn a salary of 38,861 to 83,118.

    So there you have it, you could earn a very nice 50k-110k just from NHS work, but why the hell would you when you can earn literally anything you want?

    I don't expect the two "tooth fairies" on here to understand. As I said, them agreeing would be like turkeys voting for xmas, but I want people to understand their Dentist isn't the friendly caring NHS employee with your best interest at heart (which is usually the case in our great NHS) Your Dentist has a different agenda and that my friends in need, is to take as much of your hard earned money as they can as quickly as they can.

    Toothsmith asked what I would do about it if I were in charge.
    Well, I'm no expert but what about a cap on NHS dentistry earnings. So, yes, you can work for the NHS as a considerate Dentist but you'll be paid the same a as a Nurse or a Firefighter or policeman, around 28,000.
    "Oh what, you want to drive Lamborghinis and travel first class. Ok, Go private then? Start your own business whatever. Bye"


    That way, we would get the best, people that cared about people in need, rather than their own back pockets!

    Nuff said me thinks!
    Originally posted by dontlikemondays
    Well done on getting someone to read my post to you. You should have got someone to read and explain your own post back to you though!!

    You even put it in blue!!!most dentists are self employed contractors!!

    That means - we do run our own business!!

    We buy, equip and maintain the buildings. We hire & pay the staff. Some then sub-contract their services to the NHS. These days the NHS contracts are capped - so not only do those who choose to do NHS work still run their own business (Like you suggested should happen) They also have their income capped (Like you also suggested!!!)

    But - I have left the NHS. I did it in 2006 and have managed very well without it in a little northern market town. My patients are ordinary people - just like you but without the chip on their shoulder about anyone who may or may not be earning more than they do.

    Where I work is not too far from Batley where the dental charity Dentaid have started running clinics due to the failures of the NHS.

    https://www.dentaid.org/news/busy-clinics-in-kirklees/?fbclid=IwAR1c-97UOeG0WmAwc4thN2eXehcQm0Bgcx3U0cFpljknGFmkQs2lbHu X8Ag

    Before you drive over to one of the places in the article though - they will not do a bridge for you for free!

    I do donate to Dentaid - and although I haven't yet - it is on my to-do list to volunteer for them too. Maybe you would like to donate to them, to help those with genuine dental distress? There are enough of them before we get to those who just don't fancy a denture.



    You certainly aren't an expert, but do feel free to carry on 'entertaining' everyone!
    Last edited by Toothsmith; 07-11-2018 at 3:01 PM.
    How to find a dentist.
    1. Get recommendations from friends/family/neighbours/etc.
    2. Once you have a short-list, VISIT the practices - dont just phone. Go on the pretext of getting a Practice Leaflet.
    3. Assess the helpfulness of the staff and the level of the facilities.
    4. Only book initial appointment when you find a place you are happy with.
    • welshdent
    • By welshdent 7th Nov 18, 11:32 PM
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    Definitely a troll. We should all work for free and live in a state funded commune.
    I am just off to tell my butler to polish my Rolls collection before I prepare for another day of screwing peoples wallets.
    • humptydumptybits
    • By humptydumptybits 8th Nov 18, 8:32 AM
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    You making it sound like the Dentists are just about managing.
    I didn't get that impression from the 4 brand new 4x4 cars on the carpark. As they were still there on my second and third visits one can presume they are the Dentists cars.

    I just Googled "average Dentist Pay" and this is what can be seen first page Google snippetts.

    Most dentists are self-employed contractors in general practice, mixing NHS with private work. In this setting you can earn 50,000 to 110,000. Wholly private dentists can earn 140,000+. If you work as a dentist employed by the NHS, mainly in community dental services, you'll earn a salary of 38,861 to 83,118.

    So there you have it, you could earn a very nice 50k-110k just from NHS work, but why the hell would you when you can earn literally anything you want?

    I don't expect the two "tooth fairies" on here to understand. As I said, them agreeing would be like turkeys voting for xmas, but I want people to understand their Dentist isn't the friendly caring NHS employee with your best interest at heart (which is usually the case in our great NHS) Your Dentist has a different agenda and that my friends in need, is to take as much of your hard earned money as they can as quickly as they can.

    Toothsmith asked what I would do about it if I were in charge.
    Well, I'm no expert but what about a cap on NHS dentistry earnings. So, yes, you can work for the NHS as a considerate Dentist but you'll be paid the same a as a Nurse or a Firefighter or policeman, around 28,000.
    "Oh what, you want to drive Lamborghinis and travel first class. Ok, Go private then? Start your own business whatever. Bye"

    That way, we would get the best, people that cared about people in need, rather than their own back pockets!

    Nuff said me thinks!
    Originally posted by dontlikemondays

    If it is such an easy way to earn a good living I'm surprised you don't go and qualify. If you have good enough A levels you could apply to do a degree, apparently it takes 5 years. You will come out with lots of debt but I'm sure you will soon pay it off. Of course once you qualify if you want to set up your own practice so you can cash in you will need to get a suitable building and equip it, then find the support staff, pay for registration with the CQC I think and of course insurance. I daresay you will probably struggle for a while with all that debt but eventually you might get the flash car. Good luck.
    • welshdent
    • By welshdent 9th Nov 18, 5:33 PM
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    Christ I wish I could get a denture made for 22!!! The lab fee alone is well over 100!!!
    • Archergirl
    • By Archergirl 11th Nov 18, 6:01 PM
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    My husband has just paid 2500 for a new set of dentures, the lady who made them is wonderful, he has been back a few times for adjustments and knows they will take a while to get used to, could have got them on the NHS but decided as we could afford it to go private.
    Yes it is a lot of money but we would spend that on a holiday and these will last longer than that.
    Also paid more than that for his hearing aids, but hey ho.............
    • dontlikemondays
    • By dontlikemondays 16th Nov 18, 11:52 AM
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    My husband has just paid 2500 for a new set of dentures, the lady who made them is wonderful, he has been back a few times for adjustments and knows they will take a while to get used to, could have got them on the NHS but decided as we could afford it to go private.
    Yes it is a lot of money but we would spend that on a holiday and these will last longer than that.
    Also paid more than that for his hearing aids, but hey ho.............
    Originally posted by Archergirl
    Yes, of course the lady is wonderful.
    She just made 2.5k for a piece of plastic!
    She's hardly going to treat you badly is she?
    God's sake!
    • dontlikemondays
    • By dontlikemondays 16th Nov 18, 12:03 PM
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    Toothsmith.
    What is your problem with me.
    i am entitled to have my opinion based on my experiences at several dentist.
    Each and every one of them cares about one thing and one thing only-Money
    They cannot wait to extract good teeth because they know, you will, in the future, want a bridge, or need dentures, or implants at 2000 each.
    I always thought MP's was the least trustworthy profession, but I have changed my mind to Dentists.
    Listen to what my dentist told me regarding a 2 tooth gap.
    "I can't do it on the NHS but I can do it privately for 1400"
    It's a national disgrace and someone needs to sort this mess out.

    Also, there's no need for you to get personal just because you used to be a dentist. But now you've started I will reply.

    Hey, your doing some charity work, great, why, are you feeling guilty for fleecing off all that nice money from desperate people who you were supposed to be helping.
    Helping yourself more like.
    • Toothsmith
    • By Toothsmith 18th Nov 18, 9:49 PM
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    My problem with you is that you're a bit of a twonk!

    You have no suggestion for how the mess that we both agree the NHS dental service is, should be sorted out!

    Why do you think I 'used to be' a dentist?

    I still am! (Well, as far as anyone on the Internet is who they say they are!) I just stopped doing NHS stuff in 2006 because it's a crap system!

    Your dentist is absolutely right. They cannot do a bridge on the NHS, but 1400 is a pretty decent price to get it done privately.

    So long as you think all it is is the value of its component bits - then you will be doomed to a life of being ripped off by absolutely everyone!! From the barman charging you 4 for a 5p beer to the estate agent wanting 350k for a 10k pile of bricks and fixtures on a 75k bit of land! (Which is probably only 500 of topsoil really!)
    Last edited by Toothsmith; 18-11-2018 at 9:52 PM.
    How to find a dentist.
    1. Get recommendations from friends/family/neighbours/etc.
    2. Once you have a short-list, VISIT the practices - dont just phone. Go on the pretext of getting a Practice Leaflet.
    3. Assess the helpfulness of the staff and the level of the facilities.
    4. Only book initial appointment when you find a place you are happy with.
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