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    • Mr_Mango
    • By Mr_Mango 12th May 18, 11:04 PM
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    UKPC ticket appealed then ignored - now with DRP possible court action?
    • #1
    • 12th May 18, 11:04 PM
    UKPC ticket appealed then ignored - now with DRP possible court action? 12th May 18 at 11:04 PM
    Hello everyone,

    Read the stickies, and seen the news about UKPC being banned from the DVLA database but I have already given them some of my info via an appeal.

    Back in Feb 2018, I received a parking charge in basement car park for not having my permit on display (it was being made up for me by facilities at the time). The fine was 100 or 60 if paid within 14 days. I told facilities about this and they instructed me to appeal to the UKPC which I did after about 21 days, explaining the situation. They eventually got back to me a few weeks later saying the charge was correctly issued but they'd accept 15 as a "gesture of good will". I still wasn't pleased about this and decided to ignore them from that moment on.

    I understand and respect the permit system but I was hoping for some leniency to be shown on this occasion given the fact I am actually entitled to park in my bay, and it's not like I was parking in someone else's.

    Anyway, I've now received a letter from Debt Recovery Plus saying that their client UKPC is instructing them to collect the debt and if I don't settle 160 they will recommend to their client that they take court action against me.

    What should I now do?
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    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 12th May 18, 11:07 PM
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    • #2
    • 12th May 18, 11:07 PM
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    • 12th May 18, 11:07 PM
    Read post #4 of the NEWBIES thread & ignore them. Come back if UKPC try court.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT UNLESS IN SCOTLAND OR NI
    TWO Clicks needed Look up, top of the page:
    Main site>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
    • Mr_Mango
    • By Mr_Mango 12th May 18, 11:28 PM
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    • #3
    • 12th May 18, 11:28 PM
    • #3
    • 12th May 18, 11:28 PM
    Cool will do. What's the likelihood of them actually commencing legal action against me? Is there anything I can proactively do try and prepare for anything? Not going to lie I am a wee bit shook by the letter but I'm prepared to see this one out!
    • Quentin
    • By Quentin 12th May 18, 11:31 PM
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    • #4
    • 12th May 18, 11:31 PM
    • #4
    • 12th May 18, 11:31 PM
    Nothing you should do - you should be ignoring them!!
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 13th May 18, 12:21 AM
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    • #5
    • 13th May 18, 12:21 AM
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    • 13th May 18, 12:21 AM
    Cool will do. What's the likelihood of them actually commencing legal action against me?
    Originally posted by Mr_Mango
    Can't say, but they do try court and we do see almost every poster win. No risk.

    Is there anything I can proactively do try and prepare for anything?
    Read lots of other residential 'own space' threads including those by:

    Daniel san


    and

    hairray

    and why not contact the managing agent and tell them their rogue parking firm has been banned by the DVLA for a second time, showing their level and meaning they can't get data from the DVLA at all. So they'd now be as useful as a chocolate teapot, if the site really did have a problem with trespassers, and when are they going to end the contract?

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/uk-parking-control-dvla-suspension-misuse-of-data-a8325941.html

    http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2018/04/ukpc-banned-by-dvla.html

    Remind the MA that they remain liable at all times, for the actions of their agents and this is the second time that UKPC have been banned since 2015, once for forging photo evidence and now it seems for 'data misuse' which the MA will know after GDPR comes in this month, could make them liable for a fine.

    Then ask if they will step in to cancel the one you have and take roust action to get rid of the useless parking firm who are simply harassing residents.

    For inspiration for wording when complaining to the MA, read the two thread I said (go find them).
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT UNLESS IN SCOTLAND OR NI
    TWO Clicks needed Look up, top of the page:
    Main site>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
    • fisherjim
    • By fisherjim 13th May 18, 9:02 AM
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    • #6
    • 13th May 18, 9:02 AM
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    • 13th May 18, 9:02 AM
    You should have told the MA to pay their stupid contractor their goodwill fee as this was not your fault.


    Ignore DRP they are liars.
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 13th May 18, 9:48 AM
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    • #7
    • 13th May 18, 9:48 AM
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    • 13th May 18, 9:48 AM
    As you already know, DRP are just pointless timewasters
    who are powerless. Let these scam junkies waste
    their own time AND IGNORE DRP

    As UKPC are going to have a lot of spare time on
    their hands now due to the ban. they will no doubt
    will become pro-active with the info they have

    UKPC and the legals they use are very dodgy at the
    best of times, just ignore the DRP nomads and if UKPC
    decide on court action, come back here for help
    RBS - MNBA - CAPITAL ONE - LLOYDS

    DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR
    • Mr_Mango
    • By Mr_Mango 11th Jun 18, 1:32 PM
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    • #8
    • 11th Jun 18, 1:32 PM
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    • 11th Jun 18, 1:32 PM
    Just thought I'd provide an update:
    Have received 3 letters from DRP now, the final one saying that this is my final chance to pay the 160 before they advise their client UKPA to take legal action.
    Be lying if I said I wasn't scared at this point. Do I persist and refuse to pay? At what point should I be concerned. As I understand it UKPA can no longer access the DVLA database so can't prove that I am the registered keeper of the vehicle (even though I told them when I initially tried to appeal). They don't have my full time address either, only this apartment which is where I stay during the week.
    • pogofish
    • By pogofish 11th Jun 18, 1:38 PM
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    • #9
    • 11th Jun 18, 1:38 PM
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    • 11th Jun 18, 1:38 PM
    Post 2 on this thread still covers this completely - read it again!

    If UKPC do eventually chance their arm, the Post Two if the Newbies Sticky tells you what to do.
    • fisherjim
    • By fisherjim 11th Jun 18, 1:50 PM
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    Just thought I'd provide an update:
    Have received 3 letters from DRP now, the final one saying that this is my final chance to pay the 160 before they advise their client UKPA to take legal action.
    Be lying if I said I wasn't scared at this point. Do I persist and refuse to pay? At what point should I be concerned. As I understand it UKPA can no longer access the DVLA database so can't prove that I am the registered keeper of the vehicle (even though I told them when I initially tried to appeal). They don't have my full time address either, only this apartment which is where I stay during the week.
    Originally posted by Mr_Mango
    For goodnes sake get a grip, you are not reading this right at all, you are confusing things, even quoting a different ppc now!

    DRP can't do anything they are no win no fee scammers, if they give up they get nothing do you really think they recommend court action?

    The banning of UKPC is immaterial they already have your details don't they.

    What did the MA say when you told them to sort out their useless contractors stupid "goodwill payment"?
    • Mr_Mango
    • By Mr_Mango 11th Jun 18, 2:26 PM
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    I know I know I am being probably over thinking it!
    I've never told the MA (which I'm guessing is UKPC) to stick their 15 payment, as it was only valid for 35 days and I took the decision to simply ignore it - was that a mistake?
    • Redx
    • By Redx 11th Jun 18, 3:18 PM
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    the PPC is UKPC


    the MA is the Managing Agent for the building or car park (or the landowner)


    ideally , an MA cancellation , or a landowner cancellation , is always the best option


    the MA and PPC are 2 different entitities , one employed by the other
    Newbies !!
    Private Parking ticket? check the 2 sticky threads by coupon-mad and crabman in the Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking Board forum for the latest advice or maybe try pepipoo or C.A.G. or legal beagles forums if you need legal advice as well because this parking forum is not about debt collectors or legal matters per se
    • fisherjim
    • By fisherjim 11th Jun 18, 4:06 PM
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    Look either the MA or the "facilities" person got you into this mess:


    I received a parking charge in basement car park for not having my permit on display (it was being made up for me by facilities at the time).
    Originally posted by Mr_Mango


    I suggested what to do in post 6, it's their fault you never had a permit!


    They should have dealt with it from the outset, why did you dither with these scamming idiots?
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 11th Jun 18, 4:29 PM
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    I know I know I am being probably over thinking it!
    I've never told the MA (which I'm guessing is UKPC) to stick their 15 payment, as it was only valid for 35 days and I took the decision to simply ignore it - was that a mistake?
    Originally posted by Mr_Mango
    Over thinking it ???

    DRP are now treating you as a mug with their very scary (joke)
    letters

    How many times do we have to say ......

    DRP ARE MONEY SCAMMERS
    DRP CANNOT DO ANYTHING
    DRP ARE USELESS AND A TIMEWASTING BUNCH

    Forget the DRP rubbish
    and if UKPC want to have a go
    let us know
    RBS - MNBA - CAPITAL ONE - LLOYDS

    DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR
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