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    • todayisagreatday
    • By todayisagreatday 12th May 18, 12:41 PM
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    Weed v Not Weed Help Please
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    • 12th May 18, 12:41 PM
    Weed v Not Weed Help Please 12th May 18 at 12:41 PM
    Complete gardening novice. Can anyone help me identify these plants and whether they are weeds or not. Much appreciated. Everything has gone crazy as the house was left empty for a year and I'm working on the weed v not weed basis!

    First one is this. Is growing in borders and seems to have small roots. No flowers yet:

    http://imgbox.com/9oYo4fXU

    This is in one or two areas but has spread and in one border it's full of it.

    http://imgbox.com/GF07cOR9

    This looks like a buttercup to me

    http://imgbox.com/TmpHKiv3
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    • todayisagreatday
    • By todayisagreatday 12th May 18, 12:48 PM
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    Now these I know are not weeds but I've no idea what they are, again any help appreciated.

    This is huge, it's furry and seems to have sprung up overnight.

    http://imgbox.com/85ItDjAI

    And this one has confused a lot of people. The pink stalk lake flowers are adjacent to the canal. They are tall and in various sizes. They did look like ball spaced but have opened up. The ground is hard and almost looks like the roots or bulbs are protruding from the ground

    The yellow flowers again look like buttercups - there is no hope for me! I don't want to pull something up if it is actually a plant but at the moment it's a bit like a jungle!!


    http://imgbox.com/o0ZKVSSC
    http://imgbox.com/ygTqKj48
    • p00hsticks
    • By p00hsticks 12th May 18, 1:17 PM
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    • 12th May 18, 1:17 PM
    I can't really help identifying the plants as a novice myself - but as someone else who's starting on a similar journey, I'll pass on some adivce I've been given ....


    The definition of a weed is a plant growing where you don't want it to grow.



    so if it looks pretty, isn't incredibly invasive and you don't have immediate plans to plant anything else there then consider letting it stay even if it's a wild flower that has self-seeded rather than something that someone has deliberately planted.



    We've currently got loads of self-seeded red valerian - I'm keeping it for the moment as I know from last year that bees and butterflies love it and if I pulled it up something less attractive and more difficult to remove (like dandelions) are likely to take it's place
    • todayisagreatday
    • By todayisagreatday 12th May 18, 1:23 PM
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    • 12th May 18, 1:23 PM
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    • 12th May 18, 1:23 PM
    I can't really help identifying the plants as a novice myself - but as someone else who's starting on a similar journey, I'll pass on some adivce I've been given ....


    The definition of a weed is a plant growing where you don't want it to grow.



    so if it looks pretty, isn't incredibly invasive and you don't have immediate plans to plant anything else there then consider letting it stay even if it's a wild flower that has self-seeded rather than something that someone has deliberately planted.



    We've currently got loads of self-seeded red valerian - I'm keeping it for the moment as I know from last year that bees and butterflies love it and if I pulled it up something less attractive and more difficult to remove (like dandelions) are likely to take it's place
    Originally posted by p00hsticks
    Thanks! That is good advice and if I'm honest I've just been pulling up dandelions, nettles and those sticky weeds. I think it would just be useful to know perhaps what they are. I've found a plant identification forum on Facebook so I'm hoping that will help.

    Thank you!
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 12th May 18, 1:29 PM
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    Post 1. First one is a lythrum or loosetrife, second is a geranium and the last one is creeping buttercup.

    The lythrum and geranium are OK but the last one is a weeeeed!

    Post 2. The first is some sort of verbascum, the second is darmera peltata and the third is a poppy relative that I have forgotten the name of, but I have it in my garden.
    I might be old, but I got to see a lot of good bands...
    • todayisagreatday
    • By todayisagreatday 12th May 18, 1:48 PM
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    Thank you so much! I'll get rid of the creeping buttercup!
    • todayisagreatday
    • By todayisagreatday 12th May 18, 2:03 PM
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    • 12th May 18, 2:03 PM
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    • 12th May 18, 2:03 PM
    Any ideas about this one please?

    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 12th May 18, 2:06 PM
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    Thought of the last one while having lunch, but consuming it isn't recommended!

    https://www.rhs.org.uk/Plants/3711/Chelidonium-majus/Details
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    • By Davesnave 12th May 18, 2:08 PM
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    • 12th May 18, 2:08 PM
    Any ideas about this one please?

    Originally posted by todayisagreatday
    Looks like another geranium, different from the first.
    I might be old, but I got to see a lot of good bands...
    • todayisagreatday
    • By todayisagreatday 12th May 18, 2:23 PM
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    Looks like another geranium, different from the first.
    Originally posted by Davesnave
    They are everywhere. They seem to be spreading well. They look quite nice from pics I've seen online

    We also have loads of ferms. Anyone want any ferns?
    • todayisagreatday
    • By todayisagreatday 12th May 18, 3:54 PM
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    Thank you for the useful advice so far I'm now progressing!

    Quick question. This tree is in blossom and I think it's an apple tree however in more taken with what is growing up it and why the previous owner had it like that.

    Whatever it is has grown up and almost wrapped itself in and around the tree. It has flowers on it. Should I leave it or try and relocate it. It just seems a little odd.

    • stoozie1
    • By stoozie1 12th May 18, 4:07 PM
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    The new growth, and the flower shape look like a passiflora to me.

    But if anyone like Davesnave says otherwise, go with them, as I am pretty new!

    If it is, keep it, it won't harm the tree.
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    • Justagardener
    • By Justagardener 12th May 18, 4:51 PM
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    First one is this. Is growing in borders and seems to have small roots. No flowers yet:

    http://imgbox.com/9oYo4fXU
    I might be confused with posts Dav esnave so apologies, is the first one lysamachia?
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 12th May 18, 6:13 PM
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    I might be confused with posts Dav esnave so apologies, is the first one lysamachia?
    Originally posted by Justagardener
    It looked like the emerging leaves on my Lythrums to me, but I will go and get one to compare. I wouldn't rule out something like lysimachia though. I thought lythrum because it's near water, but canal banks could be just the spot for lots of 'garden escapes.'

    Will edit when I get back....

    Edit: You're right! The lythrum leaves are not rounded enough and the size is too small relative to human fingers, so the first picture is probably lysimachia nummularia or Creeping Jenny. I've been over my Creeping Jenny with the lawnmower recently but the teensy bit I brought back looks right.


    The one going up the tree is a clematis, possibly a montana by the size of it. I don't know much about those.
    Last edited by Davesnave; 12-05-2018 at 6:27 PM.
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    • By Davesnave 12th May 18, 6:29 PM
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    The new growth, and the flower shape look like a passiflora to me.

    But if anyone like Davesnave says otherwise, go with them, as I am pretty new! Us old timers still get things wrong....see above!

    If it is, keep it, it won't harm the tree.
    Originally posted by stoozie1
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    • Justagardener
    • By Justagardener 13th May 18, 9:35 AM
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    Yep looks like the geranium sanguineum "Bloody Cranesbill" great if you cut yourself in the garden.
    A very good picture, not usually that easy to see the hairs on the leaves so clearly
    • todayisagreatday
    • By todayisagreatday 13th May 18, 12:59 PM
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    Thank you everyone, really appreciate the help!
    • JulieM
    • By JulieM 13th May 18, 7:19 PM
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    The climbing plant in post no 11 is a clematis Montana, it will take over the whole tree given a chance!
    • Sambella
    • By Sambella 13th May 18, 7:27 PM
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    I might be confused with posts Dav esnave so apologies, is the first one lysamachia?
    Originally posted by Justagardener

    Thats what I think, otherwise known as Creeping Jenny.

    No 2 = Geranium as mentioned above and No3 buttercup.
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    • By StarShapedPeg 14th May 18, 10:23 PM
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    One of the best pieces of advice my mother in law gave me when we inherited an unloved garden was to wait a year before pulling up or clearing out something you didnít recognise. Wait and see what develops and now, three years in Iím so glad I did. We found so many treasures which I would never have planted myself. It takes patience when I had really itchy fingers but it was worth it.
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