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    • AubreyMac
    • By AubreyMac 11th May 18, 8:44 PM
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    Flat tyre will not come off
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    • 11th May 18, 8:44 PM
    Flat tyre will not come off 11th May 18 at 8:44 PM
    last night when I parked up and got out the car I can hear 'pssssst' - the classic sound of air coming out of tyre. As I was parked up at home late at night and couldn't see exactly where it was coming from, I left it thinking I will see in the day time which tyre is flat.


    It is my front left wheel.


    So today I tried changing it to the spare. It is a vw polo 61 reg automatic.


    I took the 5 nuts off (I think they are called lug nuts) but the wheel does not slide out. I took the middle vw disk off and can see what looks like a big screw. I'd post a pic here if I knew how to. The screw in the middle looks like it can come off but I don't have the tool for this, so maybe it doesn't have to come off.


    I've had a browse online and watched videos. It seems I can loosely put the lugnuts back on and drive a bit until the wheel makes a 'crank' sound. but would this work with a flat? (the vids I seen did not demonstrate with a flat). What are my other options in getting the wheel off? Theres a kwik fit about a mile away but I'm not confident in driving to there with a flat.
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    • treboeth
    • By treboeth 11th May 18, 8:50 PM
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    • #2
    • 11th May 18, 8:50 PM
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    • 11th May 18, 8:50 PM
    Sounds like the wheel has binded on, place a piece of wood behind the wheel and hit the wood with a lump hammer working your way around the wheel to release.
    • Gloomendoom
    • By Gloomendoom 11th May 18, 8:50 PM
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    • 11th May 18, 8:50 PM
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    • 11th May 18, 8:50 PM
    Do not undo the nut that you can see through the wheel centre!

    It's not unusual for wheels to stick on the centre spigot. Brute force will get it off. see above.

    If you drive on it as it stands, you may end up forking out for a both new wheel and tyre.
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    • AndyMc.....
    • By AndyMc..... 11th May 18, 8:52 PM
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    • #4
    • 11th May 18, 8:52 PM
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    • 11th May 18, 8:52 PM
    Alloy wheels?

    If so they!!!8217;re corroded on, get a hammer and firmly tap round the tyre to free the wheel.
    • markudman
    • By markudman 11th May 18, 8:55 PM
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    • 11th May 18, 8:55 PM
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    • 11th May 18, 8:55 PM
    Wheel is seized on the hub, if its had a full dealer history, this may be the first time the wheels have been off.
    but as said a lump of wood or a rubber mallet, hit it on the inside to loosen it.
    leave one wheel nut / bolt in loose, (hand tight) so the wheel does not go rolling down the road
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    • s b
    • By s b 11th May 18, 9:00 PM
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    • #6
    • 11th May 18, 9:00 PM
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    • 11th May 18, 9:00 PM
    put the lug nuts on loosely before you knock 7 bells out of the rim from the inside or it may come off very quickly and either damage your wing or even yourself
    a rubber mallet is best as this wont damage the rim especially if it is an alloy rim
    be careful as sometimes wheels stuck on the hub can be very difficult to remove,try squirting some plus gas type oil into the part thats stuck keeping clear of the brake disc behind
    also im assuming you have the car body on the manufacturers jack so its not really wise to hit the rim in case it falls off the jack (i knew someone who died when an ice cream van fell on them from an unsecured vehicle ,it was on bricks)
    maybe get help
    • AubreyMac
    • By AubreyMac 11th May 18, 9:13 PM
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    • 11th May 18, 9:13 PM
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    • 11th May 18, 9:13 PM
    Thanks guys - noted about the middle screw.


    I only have the wind-up jack that comes with the car so am not confident in hammering it off as one knock it could fall off the jack and do more damage. I'll call my usual MOT guy to see if he can come out to me or recommend someone who can.


    I don't even have breakdown cover, but will be looking into one.
    • markudman
    • By markudman 11th May 18, 9:17 PM
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    • 11th May 18, 9:17 PM
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    • 11th May 18, 9:17 PM
    For Breakdown services Check any insurance you have, in may be included
    We may not win by protesting, but if we donít protest we will lose.
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    • AubreyMac
    • By AubreyMac 11th May 18, 9:19 PM
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    • 11th May 18, 9:19 PM
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    • 11th May 18, 9:19 PM
    Thanks.


    One thing I'm concerned about though is that it's parked on-road. I'm concerned that anyone (me or mechanic) will need space to work on it.
    • markudman
    • By markudman 11th May 18, 9:22 PM
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    The mechanic will be used to this and he may just kick it in the right place and it may come off.
    We may not win by protesting, but if we donít protest we will lose.
    If we stand up to them, there is always a chance we will win.
    • Ectophile
    • By Ectophile 11th May 18, 10:38 PM
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    Here's an alternative to wellying it with a hammer.


    Put the nuts back on very loosely, so the wheel doesn't fall off. Lower the jack to put the full weight of the car back on the wheel. Jack the car back up again.


    If you're lucky, that will have freed it.
    If it sticks, force it.
    If it breaks, well it wasn't working right anyway.
    • facade
    • By facade 12th May 18, 6:17 AM
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    Can't you just inflate the tyre and carefully drive to a local tyre centre where they will get the wheel off and fix the puncture?


    At worst, walk to B&M or somewhere and buy a £5 electric pump. Much cheaper than getting a mechanic to come out.



    Inflate the tyre to the maximum recommended on the plate on the door post and see how long it takes to go visibly soft, that is about how long you can drive for, unless you stop and top the tyre up.


    Obviously, be careful driving with a puncture, as the car will handle differently when the pressure isn't correct.
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    • tonyh66
    • By tonyh66 12th May 18, 9:16 AM
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    Here's an alternative to wellying it with a hammer.


    Put the nuts back on very loosely, so the wheel doesn't fall off. Lower the jack to put the full weight of the car back on the wheel. Jack the car back up again.


    If you're lucky, that will have freed it.
    Originally posted by Ectophile
    this will work...
    • peachyprice
    • By peachyprice 12th May 18, 9:27 AM
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    Or alternatively, as you may need a new tyre anyway, get etyres out to repair or replace it (other mobile tyre services are available).
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    • AubreyMac
    • By AubreyMac 12th May 18, 2:43 PM
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    Thanks all. Loosening the lugnuts and driving a bit certainly did the trick to get the wheel off.


    My usual mechanic doesn't open on sats so I just went to the nearest Kwik Fit. I'm normally reluctant to use national chains as I'm aware places like kwik fit are known to rip others off but in this instance needs must. They were quite good and didnt try to sell me expensive tyres (just the same brand as the one that was busted). I already knew it needed a new tyre instead of fixing pucture as it took about 5 mins to inflate to only 25psi using electric pump which then deflated in about 3 mins.


    Damn nails on the road!
    • z1a
    • By z1a 12th May 18, 5:56 PM
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    Thanks all. Loosening the lugnuts and driving a bit certainly did the trick to get the wheel off.


    My usual mechanic doesn't open on sats so I just went to the nearest Kwik Fit. I'm normally reluctant to use national chains as I'm aware places like kwik fit are known to rip others off but in this instance needs must. They were quite good and didnt try to sell me expensive tyres (just the same brand as the one that was busted). I already knew it needed a new tyre instead of fixing pucture as it took about 5 mins to inflate to only 25psi using electric pump which then deflated in about 3 mins.


    Damn nails on the road!
    Originally posted by AubreyMac
    You weren't supposed to drive it!
    • AubreyMac
    • By AubreyMac 12th May 18, 6:10 PM
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    You weren't supposed to drive it!
    Originally posted by z1a
    Back and forth for about 1 metre (to get 1 full turn of the wheel at least). Did that about 4 times and heard the crank.
    • photome
    • By photome 12th May 18, 6:29 PM
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    Back and forth for about 1 metre (to get 1 full turn of the wheel at least). Did that about 4 times and heard the crank.
    Originally posted by AubreyMac
    Wasnít a good idea to drive it with loose nuts.

    The studs would have been moving around in the holes and could have caused damage to either the holes or the studs
    • tower
    • By tower 12th May 18, 7:08 PM
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    Here's an alternative to wellying it with a hammer.


    Put the nuts back on very loosely, so the wheel doesn't fall off. Lower the jack to put the full weight of the car back on the wheel. Jack the car back up again.


    If you're lucky, that will have freed it.
    Originally posted by Ectophile
    I used this method to remove an alloy, but placed a block of wood at rear of wheel.
    • tacpot12
    • By tacpot12 12th May 18, 9:35 PM
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    I had the same issue with my Mondeo recently. Putting the full weight of the car on the wheel with the bolts loosely fastened was not an option for me as on the Mondeo the wheel is held onto with nuts that fasten to threaded studs on the wheel hub - Many VAG cars have threaded bolts that you undo and remove completely. I had to resort to a sledgehammer to dislodge the wheel !!!
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