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    • NikkiJo123
    • By NikkiJo123 11th May 18, 12:06 PM
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    New Build - Anwyl
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    • 11th May 18, 12:06 PM
    New Build - Anwyl 11th May 18 at 12:06 PM
    Hi everyone. I was hoping to get some opinions on our completion date.

    Back in March we exchanged contacts on a new build house with Anwyl. We visited the house yesterday and it has the roof on, windows in, been fully plastered, bathroom tiles were on in the main bathroom and ensuite, flooring was down in those rooms also and we were told the kitchen was getting fitted today.

    When we asked about the completion date (thinking it would be quite soon considering how much had been done to the house) the site manager said he thinks the 6th July is when the house will be ready and legal completion should take place on 20th July. We are not in any major rush to move in, i guess we are just excited but i couldn't understand why the completion date was so far away considering how much had been done to the house.

    I was just wondering if anyone else had any similar experiences with Anwyl (or other developers) and whether you weer ever advised of a date and then had it brought forward?

    I must add that we have not yet received a completion date from our solicitor so this date could just be the site managers estimate?

    Thanks"
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    • moneyistooshorttomention
    • By moneyistooshorttomention 11th May 18, 12:14 PM
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    Is it actually even possible (ie legally) to Exchange Contracts without a Completion Date being fixed at the same time?
    • hazyjo
    • By hazyjo 11th May 18, 12:28 PM
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    • 11th May 18, 12:28 PM
    Is it actually even possible (ie legally) to Exchange Contracts without a Completion Date being fixed at the same time?
    Originally posted by moneyistooshorttomention
    With a new-build, yes, very common.
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    • moneyistooshorttomention
    • By moneyistooshorttomention 11th May 18, 12:31 PM
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    With a new-build, yes, very common.
    Originally posted by hazyjo
    Ah right - not having bought a new-build I didnt know that.

    So - just grinning a bit at having looked up the translation for the name of the builders and it means "dear". Not sure whether they'd want to inadvertently convey the message that they're expensive....
    • FloweryCurtains
    • By FloweryCurtains 11th May 18, 12:43 PM
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    Not with the same builder but were at a similar stage. Walks are plastered, kitchen units fitted but nothing in the bathrooms yet. Were working towards completion in the middle of June which is what weve requested.
    • whatdoyouthink...
    • By whatdoyouthink... 11th May 18, 12:47 PM
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    We bought our house from Anwyl, we reserved it in August (it was only a shell with no roof at the time), the sales guy told us it would probably be January before we could move in. Turned out the build was finished at the end of November and we ended up completing in the first week of December.
    • PasturesNew
    • By PasturesNew 11th May 18, 12:57 PM
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    If it's a building site then they'd most likely release "groups of houses" on the same date, not individual houses. Although you could see things going on, "the team" then move along that group of houses to do that work in each of those.

    By releasing "groups of houses" they retain the services of the teams they need as they're in on XYZ date to do ABC - and do them all in a fixed timeframe.

    Then they need somebody to sign to say "that looks all right to me" - proper/professional "sign off" to say "they're good to go". Then the site area needs to be tidied up and barriers moved to prevent people getting to other parts (if it's a larger build)... and then it's "safe" for "people/the general public" to be walking around, carrying boxes, living life, receiving deliveries.

    The project plan, with dates and teams required, will have been set up before they started building ... so the gas mains might not be laid until a week before X date (for example), when it's nearly done. Some jobs are harder to bring forward, or move, than simply asking a carpenter to pop in on a Saturday morning to finish something off.... services will always be on the date set in the plan.

    Things take longer than you think ... you might think you see a fitted kitchen going in .... but you might find yours is first ... the last one's 2 weeks later .... and then a separate person comes along and fits handles, or something.
    • crystalpinks
    • By crystalpinks 11th May 18, 1:55 PM
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    Agree with pastures new.
    It sounds about right to me.
    We are completing on our new build at the end of this month, but the house has been at the stage you discuss for a good few weeks now. They are just finishing off the landscaping out the front.
    They move people in in batches, so a few houses will likely need to be ready at the same time.
    They all need to be checked and signed off by site and NBHC before head office organise a completion date.
    When we exchanged, the documents the solicitor send to had 31.05.18 as an estimated completion date (which has ended up being pretty spot on) does your exchange documentation have any indication of an estimated date?
    • Katapolt
    • By Katapolt 11th May 18, 2:21 PM
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    theres a lot they need to get done one the house is completed before they can legally sell it, and it can take a while to get all the ducks in a row.

    it may well come forward, but they need to allow that time to get all the relevant paperwork done and checks finalised.
    • kingstreet
    • By kingstreet 11th May 18, 5:25 PM
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    Technical answer on newbuild exchange of contracts and completion.

    Contracts are exchanged with completion "on notice" and the builder's solicitor serves notice on the purchaser's solicitor two weeks from the completion date.

    Sometimes this can be affected by when the NHBC cover note (or similar) is going to be issued when the property is build-complete.
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    • NikkiJo123
    • By NikkiJo123 11th May 18, 5:46 PM
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    The solicitor paperwork said the 1st June as an estimate so we are way off that. I dont mind waiting until July though
    • Macca68
    • By Macca68 20th May 18, 9:43 AM
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    Hi all, I'm interested to read that some of you have bought from Anwyl Homes. I've been looking into Anwyl over this last year as we're interested in a move to North Wales in later life. The prospect of a new build is very appealing as I get older from a maintenance perspective.

    Their builds seem to be very good quality, and have a bit of character too.

    I'd be interested to hear what your experiences of dealing with Anwyl have been, and what you think of their builds, so please feel free to share your views.

    Cheers, Mac
    • IvorDraft
    • By IvorDraft 24th Dec 18, 12:48 PM
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    We have recently purchased a new Anwyl home The house does not retain heat very well and the inside exterior walls are cold. Some of the rooms are drafty and cold. On investigating the drafts I was shocked to find that the house does not have any cavity wall insulation installed. There are many other builders building new builds in and around the area and all are installing cavity wall insulation. I have not yet discussed this with the builder and I feel I need some advise / help first, can anybody out there help me
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 24th Dec 18, 1:25 PM
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    We have recently purchased a new Anwyl home The house does not retain heat very well and the inside exterior walls are cold. Some of the rooms are drafty and cold. On investigating the drafts I was shocked to find that the house does not have any cavity wall insulation installed. There are many other builders building new builds in and around the area and all are installing cavity wall insulation. I have not yet discussed this with the builder and I feel I need some advise / help first, can anybody out there help me
    Originally posted by IvorDraft
    Very surprised Building Control have passed that - it certainly won't meet thermal standards for Building Regs.

    How have you determined there's "no cavity wall insulation"? It would typically be invisible, and would have been installed at the time the walls were being built up. It's not the fluffy ball retro-fit stuff, but hard slabs fitted between the leaves.

    If you've taken a socket or light switch off and can't see any, then bear in mind you're probably looking between plasterboard and inner leaf, not between inner and outer leaf.
    • IvorDraft
    • By IvorDraft 24th Dec 18, 9:19 PM
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    Adrian, thanks for your reply.
    The house next to ours is nearly finished and I have watched it being built, there is no cavity wall insulation installed.
    When we first viewed our new house it was finished and ready to move in so we never witnessed any of the build progress. I assumed with it being a modern new house that thermal cavity wall insulation would be used. Same as you see in all of the TV building programs.
    Can a house be passed off by building control without the cavity wall insulation and how would I check the house thermal properties.
    • ComicGeek
    • By ComicGeek 24th Dec 18, 10:03 PM
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    Have a look at your EPC - it will give a description of each element and state what kind of construction is used ie cavity masonry wall, timber frame etc. It will also state what kind of insulation has been assumed for the external walls to achieve Bldg Regs compliance.

    This would confirm what should have been installed. You can then check what has been installed and raise with the builder.

    I've seen many, many new builds where small areas of insulation have been missed, and a few where pitched roof insulation has been missed - but never come across all external wall insulation being missed, let alone on two adjacent plots. Not that it's impossible, but there would be so many opportunities to spot this. Cavity wall insulation slabs are installed as the walls are built, so this might only happen with pumped bead insulation - I have worked on some schemes where this is done afterwards to not slow down the brickies.
    • IvorDraft
    • By IvorDraft 24th Dec 18, 10:20 PM
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    Thanks ComicGeek,
    I do not have the house EPC, is this something our solicitor would have provided when we purchased the house?
    • IvorDraft
    • By IvorDraft 25th Dec 18, 8:32 AM
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    Thanks to everyone for the various feedback. I did some further investigation and it looks like our house has those small polystyrene beads pumped into the cavity between the thermal blocks and brick work and this must be done after the build.
    I will have to continue looking for why he house is so cold.
    Thanks again to everybody for the feedback as it helps to point a non-builder into the right direction,
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 26th Dec 18, 10:23 AM
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    I do not have the house EPC, is this something our solicitor would have provided when we purchased the house?
    Originally posted by IvorDraft
    https://www.epcregister.com/reportSearchAddressTerms.html?redirect=reportSearc hAddressByPostcode
    • harz99
    • By harz99 26th Dec 18, 10:51 AM
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    Have a look at your EPC - it will give a description of each element and state what kind of construction is used ie cavity masonry wall, timber frame etc. It will also state what kind of insulation has been assumed for the external walls to achieve Bldg Regs compliance.

    .
    Originally posted by ComicGeek

    Mine was done late 2013 and only shows "average thermal transmittance values" for walls roof etc.


    Unless EPC's have changed to have more information since then that isn't a lot of help.
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