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    • Calfuray
    • By Calfuray 10th May 18, 10:23 PM
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    DVLA - keeping revoked license as ID?
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    • 10th May 18, 10:23 PM
    DVLA - keeping revoked license as ID? 10th May 18 at 10:23 PM
    Hello,

    Apologies if this is in the wrong place or if this seems like a silly question.

    We recently wrote to the DVLA to report various medical conditions for my husband. His driving license has been revoked, which is exactly what we were expecting. We have no intentions of appealing, but were wondering, can he keep the old license just for ID or does it have to be returned?

    Thanks in advance,
    Cal
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    • Robisere
    • By Robisere 12th May 18, 4:38 PM
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    A revoked document, especially revoked as a government-issued document, cannot be legally used for any purpose. An expired document is different: it will carry proof of expiry, in the form of an expired date. What happens if a police officer has sight of the revoked licence, do you think?
    I think this job really needs
    a much bigger hammer.
    • usefulmale
    • By usefulmale 12th May 18, 5:29 PM
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    usefulmale
    A revoked document, especially revoked as a government-issued document, cannot be legally used for any purpose. An expired document is different: it will carry proof of expiry, in the form of an expired date. What happens if a police officer has sight of the revoked licence, do you think?
    Originally posted by Robisere
    Absolutely nothing unless the person the licence refers to is driving.
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    • iltisman
    • By iltisman 12th May 18, 5:45 PM
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    iltisman
    I have licences for all sorts of things that are now invalid due to lack of current medical, currency etc but I could use them as ID.
    The only thing I won't keep are ID cards for airports, work etc as I feel that would be asking for trouble.
    It's only my cheerfulness that keeps me going
    • varghesejim
    • By varghesejim 12th May 18, 5:56 PM
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    Under what law?
    Originally posted by Andy L
    Identity documents act

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/40/crossheading/false-identity-documents-etc

    Quoting section 6 below


    6Possession of false identity documents etc without reasonable excuse
    (1)It is an offence for a person (“P”), without reasonable excuse, to have in P's possession or under P's control—
    (a)an identity document that is false,
    (b)an identity document that was improperly obtained,
    • AndyMc.....
    • By AndyMc..... 12th May 18, 6:07 PM
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    AndyMc.....
    Identity documents act

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/40/crossheading/false-identity-documents-etc

    Quoting section 6 below


    6Possession of false identity documents etc without reasonable excuse
    (1)It is an offence for a person (“P”), without reasonable excuse, to have in P's possession or under P's control—
    (a)an identity document that is false,
    (b)an identity document that was improperly obtained,
    Originally posted by varghesejim
    But it’s not false, it’s a genuine licence.
    • Johno100
    • By Johno100 12th May 18, 6:08 PM
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    Johno100
    Identity documents act

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/40/crossheading/false-identity-documents-etc

    Quoting section 6 below

    6Possession of false identity documents etc without reasonable excuse
    (1)It is an offence for a person (“P”), without reasonable excuse, to have in P's possession or under P's control—
    (a)an identity document that is false,
    (b)an identity document that was improperly obtained,
    Originally posted by varghesejim
    But it would neither be false or improperly obtained. Now if it said improperly retained......
    • varghesejim
    • By varghesejim 12th May 18, 6:44 PM
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    But it would neither be false or improperly obtained. Now if it said improperly retained......
    Originally posted by Johno100
    I agree it is open for interpretation. Arguably if the issuing authority cancels the document it is as good as false document when used as an id where dvla issued licence is expected?
    • Paradigm
    • By Paradigm 12th May 18, 7:55 PM
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    I agree it is open for interpretation. Arguably if the issuing authority cancels the document it is as good as false document when used as an id where dvla issued licence is expected?
    Originally posted by varghesejim

    They haven't cancelled "the document" they have revoked his entitlement to drive!
    The photocard is a totally separate issue & is valid for 10 years from date of issue.
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    • AndyMc.....
    • By AndyMc..... 12th May 18, 8:04 PM
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    AndyMc.....
    I agree it is open for interpretation. Arguably if the issuing authority cancels the document it is as good as false document when used as an id where dvla issued licence is expected?
    Originally posted by varghesejim
    It’s still a genuine licence.
    • Car 54
    • By Car 54 12th May 18, 9:37 PM
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    Car 54
    Identity documents act

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/40/crossheading/false-identity-documents-etc

    Quoting section 6 below


    6Possession of false identity documents etc without reasonable excuse
    (1)It is an offence for a person (“P”), without reasonable excuse, to have in P's possession or under P's control—
    (a)an identity document that is false,
    (b)an identity document that was improperly obtained,
    Originally posted by varghesejim
    That is a selective quotation - the act requires "improper intention". Using it to prove a correct age or address would not be improper.
    • AndyMc.....
    • By AndyMc..... 12th May 18, 9:41 PM
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    AndyMc.....
    That is a selective quotation - the act requires "improper intention". Using it to prove a correct age or address would not be improper.
    Originally posted by Car 54
    And it’s not a false document.
    • sheramber
    • By sheramber 13th May 18, 1:19 PM
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    https://www.gov.uk/giving-up-your-driving-licence

    When you decide to stop driving or are advised by your doctor to stop you!!!8217;ll need to tell DVLA and send them your licence.
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