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    • Calfuray
    • By Calfuray 10th May 18, 10:23 PM
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    DVLA - keeping revoked license as ID?
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    • 10th May 18, 10:23 PM
    DVLA - keeping revoked license as ID? 10th May 18 at 10:23 PM
    Hello,

    Apologies if this is in the wrong place or if this seems like a silly question.

    We recently wrote to the DVLA to report various medical conditions for my husband. His driving license has been revoked, which is exactly what we were expecting. We have no intentions of appealing, but were wondering, can he keep the old license just for ID or does it have to be returned?

    Thanks in advance,
    Cal
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    • sevenhills
    • By sevenhills 11th May 18, 11:31 AM
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    • 11th May 18, 11:31 AM
    Just tell them that you cut it up, and put it in the bin.

    • caprikid1
    • By caprikid1 11th May 18, 11:39 AM
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    • 11th May 18, 11:39 AM
    Surely a Rovoke license is not a valid form of ID ?
    • Stoke
    • By Stoke 11th May 18, 11:48 AM
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    • 11th May 18, 11:48 AM
    I think you can get National ID cards these days? I'd be careful about keeping it. There are surely rules against that, and no idea what happens if you're caught.
    • Johno100
    • By Johno100 11th May 18, 12:38 PM
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    • 11th May 18, 12:38 PM
    Surely a Rovoke license is not a valid form of ID ?
    Originally posted by caprikid1
    How's anybody else going to know?
    • usefulmale
    • By usefulmale 11th May 18, 5:51 PM
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    • 11th May 18, 5:51 PM
    Surely a Rovoke license is not a valid form of ID ?
    Originally posted by caprikid1
    Why wouldn't it be?

    Nobodys name has changed. Nobodys address has changed. Nobodys date of birth has changed.

    On the other hand, a driving licence is simply a document that proves you are legally able to drive certain classes of vehicles.

    Why is it then accepted as ID?
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    • usefulmale
    • By usefulmale 11th May 18, 5:53 PM
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    • 11th May 18, 5:53 PM
    I think you can get National ID cards these days? I'd be careful about keeping it. There are surely rules against that, and no idea what happens if you're caught.
    Originally posted by Stoke
    You would only be in trouble if you were caught driving.

    It's no different to me keeping my old 'expired' passport.
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    • Car 54
    • By Car 54 11th May 18, 10:13 PM
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    • 11th May 18, 10:13 PM
    On the other hand, a driving licence is simply a document that proves you are legally able to drive certain classes of vehicles.

    Why is it then accepted as ID?
    Originally posted by usefulmale
    That is its primary purpose, yes. But it also proves (with a level of certainty that satisfies the government) that you live at that address and look (a bit!) like the photo.

    AFAIK most government departments, banks etc. ask for a "valid" or "current" licence, which would rule out the OP (if they bothered to check).
    • Calfuray
    • By Calfuray 11th May 18, 11:35 PM
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    • 11th May 18, 11:35 PM
    Thanks all for your answers, I appreciate your time. I think we'll have to phone the DVLA but fully expect they will tell us we have to return it to be destroyed, even though he has no intention of ever driving again.
    • Norman Castle
    • By Norman Castle 12th May 18, 8:41 AM
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    Have the DVLA asked you to return the revoked licence? If not then keep it. No need to phone them.
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    • LeeUK
    • By LeeUK 12th May 18, 9:25 AM
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    And if you do return it, make sure you cut it up first before you put it in the envelope. I wouldn't be going sending back a full intact licence card through regular post. Revoked or not.
    • varghesejim
    • By varghesejim 12th May 18, 11:10 AM
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    Hello,

    Apologies if this is in the wrong place or if this seems like a silly question.

    We recently wrote to the DVLA to report various medical conditions for my husband. His driving license has been revoked, which is exactly what we were expecting. We have no intentions of appealing, but were wondering, can he keep the old license just for ID or does it have to be returned?

    Thanks in advance,
    Cal
    Originally posted by Calfuray
    If you write your name and address in a white sheet of paper and stick a photo on it, no one will accept it as an id. People accept ids authorised by a relevant authority.

    In this case, revoking the licence means DVLA cancelling the entire document. You cannot re-enable it. You need to reapply for a new licence later if you are eligible.

    Revoked licence has no more value than your details in a white paper. Using this as an id is as good as using a fake document and is an offence.
    • AndyMc.....
    • By AndyMc..... 12th May 18, 11:37 AM
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    You would only be in trouble if you were caught driving.

    It's no different to me keeping my old 'expired' passport.
    Originally posted by usefulmale
    It is because it hasn’t expired it’s been revoked.
    • castle96
    • By castle96 12th May 18, 11:47 AM
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    Have heard that an expired passport IS valid ID for 2 years .....?
    • Johno100
    • By Johno100 12th May 18, 11:51 AM
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    Very strange, there are posters on here objecting to a potential little white lie so the OP gets to keep a useful form of photo ID who are advocating and/or encouraging potential criminal activity when it comes to an inconveniently parked vehicle in another current thread.

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5841315

    Seems to me some people have rather dodgy moral compasses.
    • LeeUK
    • By LeeUK 12th May 18, 11:55 AM
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    Very strange, there are posters on here objecting to a potential little white lie so the OP gets to keep a useful form of photo ID who are advocating and/or encouraging potential criminal activity when it comes to an inconveniently parked vehicle in another current thread.

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5841315

    Seems to me some people have rather dodgy moral compasses.
    Originally posted by Johno100
    Always been the case on here.

    I'm sure using a revoked licence to prove age to buy alcohol in a supermarket will make a blind bit of difference. They check the photo and D.O.B they don't ring up DVLA.
    • Car 54
    • By Car 54 12th May 18, 2:08 PM
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    If you write your name and address in a white sheet of paper and stick a photo on it, no one will accept it as an id. People accept ids authorised by a relevant authority.

    In this case, revoking the licence means DVLA cancelling the entire document. You cannot re-enable it. You need to reapply for a new licence later if you are eligible.

    Revoked licence has no more value than your details in a white paper. Using this as an id is as good as using a fake document and is an offence.
    Originally posted by varghesejim
    So, what offence would you commit if you used it, say to enter a club?
    • unholyangel
    • By unholyangel 12th May 18, 2:21 PM
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    If its been revoked because of disability (or prospective disability) then yes you need to return it.

    (3)A person whose licence is revoked under subsection (1) or (2) above must deliver up the licence F2... to the Secretary of State forthwith after the revocation [F5and a person who, without reasonable excuse, fails to do so is guilty of an offence
    And disability is defined as:
    In this Part of this Act—
    “disability” includes disease [F1and the persistent misuse of drugs or alcohol, whether or not such misuse amounts to dependency],
    “relevant disability” in relation to any person means—
    (a)any prescribed disability, and
    (b)any other disability likely to cause the driving of a vehicle by him in pursuance of a licence to be a source of danger to the public, and

    “prospective disability” in relation to any person means any other disability which—
    (a)at the time of the application for the grant of a licence or, as the case may be, the material time for the purposes of the provision in which the expression is used, is not of such a kind that it is a relevant disability, but
    (b)by virtue of the intermittent or progressive nature of the disability or otherwise, may become a relevant disability in course of time.
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    • Andy L
    • By Andy L 12th May 18, 4:24 PM
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    Using this as an id is as good as using a fake document and is an offence.
    Originally posted by varghesejim
    Under what law?
    • Andy L
    • By Andy L 12th May 18, 4:29 PM
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    Have heard that an expired passport IS valid ID for 2 years .....?
    Originally posted by castle96
    I think the utility of an expired passport as a proof of ID is down to the discretion of the person accepting it or what its being used for

    Easyjet, eg, will accept it for 5 years after (Although obviously only for domestic flights) whilst the Government, for money laundering purposes, only allows a current one
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