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    • gream0604
    • By gream0604 9th May 18, 9:01 PM
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    Getting House Viewings
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    • 9th May 18, 9:01 PM
    Getting House Viewings 9th May 18 at 9:01 PM
    Just wondering if any critiques out there can have a look at our right move advert for our house.

    Been on the market for a couple of weeks, but only had 2 viewings, which seems a bit slow to me?

    ------ UPDATE --------

    So I have asked the agent to update some of the photos. It turns out that they took most of the ones that were missing, so not sure why they were not used?!

    Also took some new ones of the garden after power washing the patio, moving the cable reel out the way, and adding a few pots, and tidying up the raised bed a bit.

    They are in the process of renaming the photos, and I have also asked if we can advertise as a 3 bed with office/4th bedroom to try and capture more in the search results.

    http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-54106680.html

    ------ UPDATE 2 -------
    Thanks for all your comments guys. Done some more work over the weekend to the garden, including laying some artificial grass.

    All new photos uploaded, and already had a viewing booked in since changing the photos!
    Last edited by gream0604; 14-05-2018 at 11:15 AM. Reason: Added update
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    • ciderboy2009
    • By ciderboy2009 10th May 18, 8:55 AM
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    I wonder if you're aiming at the wrong market.

    People looking for a four bedroom house would normally be families rather than first time buyers. For them your garden is totally wrong and it looks like it would be a lot of work to rip it out and replace it.

    I would also ask your estate agent to title the photo's properly rather than just leaving them as 'Picture 1' etc - I'm struggling to work out which rooms the upstairs photo's are.

    Also get them to sort out things like "Recently Installed Modern Kit" (some people might not realise that it's short for kitchen) and "Master/Dressing Area/En-Suite" (I assume that it means the Master bedroom has a dressing area but it could be read as Master Bedroom or Dressing Area).

    As previously mentioned - add a picture of the garage (even if only from the outside). Some people just flick through the photo's and don't bother reading the description if they don't show what they're after.
    • seven-day-weekend
    • By seven-day-weekend 10th May 18, 9:00 AM
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    The house is nice, although bedroom four is tiny and I would advertise it as a study/occasional bedroom. As others have said, I would also try to fit a table in and I would also have a photo of the garage.

    The garden is terrible and the pizza oven debatable. I wouldn't want it, but some people might. Maybe it would be possible to say in the text that it will be removed if someone doesn't want it? It might encourage someone who likes the house but can't bear the thought of the pizza oven to buy it.

    The main thing that would put me off however is that it is so overlooked. Although you can't do anything about this, maybe you could screen it? There are large bamboo plants in Homebase at the moment for £27, buy a few of those and some plastic pots and stick them along the wall to make a screen. Also put some colourful shrubs or bedding plants in containers. You can take them with you when you go.

    https://www.homebase.co.uk/golden-or-fishpole-bamboo_p614640
    • LandyAndy
    • By LandyAndy 10th May 18, 9:22 AM
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    The house looks nice and I'm going to go against the grain on the garden.

    It would appeal to me far more than bl**dy flower beds.
    • gream0604
    • By gream0604 10th May 18, 9:31 AM
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    The house looks nice and I'm going to go against the grain on the garden.

    It would appeal to me far more than bl**dy flower beds.
    Originally posted by LandyAndy
    At least someone likes it

    Might see if the agent can add something to the description about removing it if not wanted though!
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 10th May 18, 9:32 AM
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    I wonder if you're aiming at the wrong market.

    People looking for a four bedroom house would normally be families rather than first time buyers. For them your garden is totally wrong and it looks like it would be a lot of work to rip it out and replace it.
    Originally posted by ciderboy2009
    Even more work to extend it, though!

    The garden is going to stay small, but at least it's child-secure and they wont get messy. Kids these days don't go out much anyway; they're all on their X Boxes and 'phones.

    Agree totally that the garage needs to be more prominent in the listing. As an almost 70 year old, I could have that pizza oven down at the tip inside half a morning, so I don't think it's a big issue.
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    • tori.k
    • By tori.k 10th May 18, 9:44 AM
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    I think its lovely, especially the pizza oven you hit the nail on the head for making the garden another usable room of the house it just needs dressing with some Mediterranean plants and cushions for the seating.as it looking a little unloved after the winter.
    Getting more in about the parking/ garage is a must. I know it was one of our biggest concerns as with the kids being at home longer we alone have 4 daily cars to find parking for and discounted a lot of houses due to parking complications.
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    • quantumlobster
    • By quantumlobster 10th May 18, 9:47 AM
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    My thoughts:
    1. A 4-bed house needs off-street parking for at least two cars, IMHO - it's not clear from the listing whether there's even parking for one
    2. You've got to really like pizza to want a fixed pizza oven in the garden
    3. That third bedroom is titchy
    4. Get the agent to title the pictures properly
    5. Two viewings in a fortnight seems fine. I only had one viewing in 7 months on mine (but they bought it, so )
    6. The garden is just so very beige - it looks like ennui and ambient despair
    7. Only one downstairs room other than the kitchen (and downstairs loo) - separate dining room would be a must for me, and no storage for all the coats/shoes/etc, but then we'll never know without a picture of the hall

    Basically for a couple with a couple or three kids, for whom a 4-bed is a must, there's just not much space - or so it would appear from the listing as presented.
    • davidmcn
    • By davidmcn 10th May 18, 9:51 AM
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    A bugbear of mine is vague addresses in listings - this just says "Meadow Place". No town or any other clues about which of the hundreds of Meadow Places it might be.
    • hazyjo
    • By hazyjo 10th May 18, 9:56 AM
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    As others have said - the garden! It's such a let down after the other pics.


    It's not the fact there's no grass or the 'beigeness', or that it's more of a Mediterranean garden, it's just so 'lacking' and unloved. Needs dressing. It could be beautiful.


    Try Pinterest for ideas.


    Scroll down to 'Sit in comfort' heading http://www.idealhome.co.uk/garden/garden-ideas/garden-decking-ideas-48539


    Also agree the first pic should be of the front of the house.


    Good luck.
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    • burtbot1
    • By burtbot1 10th May 18, 10:20 AM
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    I echo what some others have said about who it's aimed at. A 4 bedroom house would surely be aimed at a family? And, as lovely an idea as a pizza oven is, is totally impractical when you have kids.
    Kids can play in a small garden, but that oven would put me off massively, it's totally in the way. How easy is it to remove? If it's really simple then put that into the listing, or make that clear somehow. For me, as a current house hunter with kids, knowing it would easily be removed would be the difference between booking a viewing or not.

    Actually - one other thing too. Are the sofas in the living room against the walls? they look very big for the room, but also don't look like they are in the best position? This wouldn't necessarily put me off viewing, but it does make the living room look smaller than it probably is.
    Last edited by burtbot1; 10-05-2018 at 10:23 AM.
    • ReadingTim
    • By ReadingTim 10th May 18, 10:22 AM
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    Any ad for a house that doesn't feature the outside as the first picture makes me automatically think the vendor is hiding something so I approach the rest of the ad with more scepticism than I usually would. Even though your place isn't some pebble-dashed 1950s nuclear bunker, the unflattering angles and wonky exterior shot does it no favours.

    The rest of the photos are similarly awful and convey a general feeling of it being cramped and small - the "bedrooms" which do have beds in can't seem to fit much else, one room can't even seem to fit a bed, and the remaining room is an unloved space used for drying clothes. Whilst there are 4 upstairs rooms, so technically it's a 4 bedroom house, the lack of space conveyed by the photos makes that claim seem a little fraudulent...

    As stated elsewhere, the garden looks like a building site and there's no indication of the garage/parking - I'd suggest a snap of that, or including of it in the floorplan - the streetview view isn't very helpful in this regard.

    Dunno why you knocked the conservatory down, but the photos of it when you bought it are (to my mind anyway) considerably more flattering than the current ones. Furthermore, given you've removed a room, a c.£60k price rise in 4 years might be chancing it....
    • Caraway90
    • By Caraway90 10th May 18, 12:25 PM
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    The parking set up would put me off, I like to be able to park at the front of my house and go in the front door. Obviously you can't change this though so not a very helpful comment sorry!
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    • Amoux
    • By Amoux 10th May 18, 1:23 PM
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    I agree with what has already been said. Despite the rooms looking quite small, as a 4 bed house, it would have been more marketable aimed as a family house. If it has a garage, it most certainly needs a picture as it's not all that clear (only in the description). I kind of think this house would appeal more to young professionals/students as a house share with low maintenance - so for a buyer they might see it more as investment potential. Not sure the feasibility of this, being in Weston...

    And it's a matter of personal taste, but the garden doesn't really work as a family home, particular one with young kids as there is no room for children to play and the pizza oven (love it or hate it) is not appropriate either. Knocking down the conservatory has bizarrely lost you more outdoor space as you have seemed to have taken to "cluttering up" the garden and losing a room in the process. Simplicity in my view would have been better, with some flowers/plants to give it some life but not too much where it becomes high maintenance.
    Last edited by Amoux; 10-05-2018 at 1:26 PM.
    • Cakeguts
    • By Cakeguts 10th May 18, 4:10 PM
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    I think grey is so last year or the year before that or even the year before that. The interior needs brightening up it look as if the photos are in black and white and I am sure that most people will think that it needs redecorating.

    I hate the garden that is all beige no colour at all and small with that thing in the middle right in the view.
    • franklee
    • By franklee 10th May 18, 4:26 PM
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    Adding up the possible to skip hardcore:

    The old conservatory base currently under the decking near the house (is it reusable).
    The oven.
    The base and backs of the patio seating that looks like rendered walls (top is decking which is reusable).
    Possibly the side planter that also looks like rendered walls although it may be a keeper.

    Looks to me like a lot of work and a skip as I assume any buyer would have a car due to the parking size.

    Presumably the skip can't go by the back gate as access is under the archway. So presumably barrow out the back gate, round the side to the road.

    Could hire a van but then you have to pay at the dump anyway. I wouldn't use a man and van as the homeowner has to ask to see the certificates or be a risk of fly tipping.

    Obviously people buy and renovate all the time but I would be thinking how much is it going to cost.

    All together in a small garden it gives an overbearing impression to me.
    • pinklady21
    • By pinklady21 10th May 18, 5:45 PM
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    Garden - get rid of the cable drum - at least for the pictures. Get some colour in there - green plants, some flowers in colourful pots etc.

    Show the dining area in a photo.
    Show the parking in a photo.
    Declutter a bit in the office and the bathroom.

    Otherwise, a fairly nice clean house. Not my cup of tea, as I prefer detached. If the agent took the photos, then make them come back and do them again to show off the house at its best.
    Good luck.
    • Crashy Time
    • By Crashy Time 10th May 18, 10:55 PM
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    Thanks everyone. Its really useful to have someone look over as a critial eye, as I hadn't even considered some of the things that have been mentioned.

    I think I am going to do the following:

    1. Change one of the lounge/diner pictures to one that shows the dining area
    2. Add a picture of the garage/parking space.
    3. Pull out the sofa bed in bedroom 3 and stage it as a bedroom so you can see that a double bed will fit.
    4. Try and get some cheap planters in the back garden, and maybe consider taking some photos at night with the pizza oven lit up.

    Anything else I am missing here?
    Originally posted by gream0604

    Too optimistically priced for the current market?
    • buggy_boy
    • By buggy_boy 11th May 18, 1:24 AM
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    I think the back garden is aimed at totally the wrong market, having a cable reel in the back garden as a table might seem a good idea but it looks what it is, a cable reel. Lose the pizza oven its not practical in a family home, keep the decking but tidy up the edges as looks a proper DIY job, I would look to lay lawn for the rest of the garden (apart from a path of some sort maybe stepping stones to gate).

    Try to make all of the bedrooms actual bedrooms rather than craft room/extra reception room. this may require hiring storage space but you need to present the house correctly.

    A lot of this sort of designed houses are actually 3 bed houses with two large bedrooms and family bathroom on the middle floor, this seems to be popular as you get larger rooms, your house seems to be unusual being a 4 bed terraced, not many of those about in that area.

    You are very close to the west coast main line and the M5 which is going to be a huge limiting factor, on this basis I would be looking to market this more against 3 bed semi town houses with that in mind I think your probably £20k too high, probably not what you wanted to hear.
    • gream0604
    • By gream0604 11th May 18, 12:29 PM
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    So I have asked the agent to update some of the photos. It turns out that they took most of the ones that were missing, so not sure why they were not used?!

    Also took some new ones of the garden after power washing the patio, moving the cable reel out the way, and adding a few pots, and tidying up the raised bed a bit.

    They are in the process of renaming the photos, and I have also asked if we can advertise as a 3 bed with office/4th bedroom to try and capture more in the search results.

    Here is the link again for anyone who is interested in having another look. http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-54106680.html

    Hopefully we might get some more interest now?
    • hazyjo
    • By hazyjo 11th May 18, 12:43 PM
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    Sorry but would only say it's marginally better - still very beige and rules out a lot of families which is who it should be appealing to. Needs dressing.


    Can you also sort out the dead plant outside the front of the house? Didn't notice the yellow/green before on the storm porch (and roof - but that's not so obvious). Can it be cleaned off?
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