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    • YoungBlueEyes
    • By YoungBlueEyes 8th May 18, 8:57 PM
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    Is something wrong with this house..?
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    • 8th May 18, 8:57 PM
    Is something wrong with this house..? 8th May 18 at 8:57 PM
    I'm house hunting atm and I keep coming back to this house. It's in the area I'd like to live, and it's the style of house I'd like, and it's affordable.

    It's been on the market a good long while, and they keep reducing the price...

    I'm going on a viewing expedition next week, and it's on my list. Maybe I'll see something obvious in the flesh.

    I appreciate no-one has a crystal ball etc, but could those more experienced than me (which is all of you ) point out any issues I may be missing?

    The 2 gardens thing is an oddity but that can't be it surely...?

    http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-65066128.html



    Thanks for any advice and replies
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    • YoungBlueEyes
    • By YoungBlueEyes 8th May 18, 11:44 PM
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    I'd prefer Leek or Ashbourne to Cheadle tbh, but my budget disagrees!

    I saw a really lovely house in Burton on Trent. If you could put that in Ashbourne or Leek I'd be a happy gal. But if it was in either of those towns they could just write 0's til their arm fell off as an asking price ha haa!

    Lemme see if I can find a link, cos it's just about perfect as an example of what I'm after.

    Edit: it's gone It was on Forest Road, on for 122,950. There is this one though, not as nice but looks alright -
    http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-64729726.html
    Last edited by YoungBlueEyes; 08-05-2018 at 11:52 PM.
    • YoungBlueEyes
    • By YoungBlueEyes 8th May 18, 11:57 PM
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    The trouble/good thing is I'm not moving to be near family or start a new job or whatever, I'm just moving for a fresh start. It makes for a very wide search area! I'm open to suggestions/discouragements.

    Good tips on Leek and Cheadle though, thanks todayisagreatday
    • todayisagreatday
    • By todayisagreatday 9th May 18, 7:41 AM
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    No worries. I think it all depends on your budget (I mean is it 100k or 120k) and exactly how you see the house, is it a long term house, one you want to sell in a few years, perhaps make a bit of on, do you mind renovation work? Make a list of things you definitely want, eg off road parking, a garden and those you can compromise on.

    Leek is more of a small town, more independent shops, black and white buildings, antique shops bordering the Roaches and Peak District. Cheadle is definitely more of a village feel but can get very busy, it use to get manic with people heading to Alton Towers cutting through. There isn't much in Cheadle to be honest in the way of shops or things to do.

    Derby is definitely more of a city. It's got a train station and bigger chain stores like Primark. When I lived in Blythe Bridge/Caverswall I'd get the train to Derby.

    I prefer the other house you posted as it has parking and I think you'll always be better selling on a house that has parking. It's ex council but you will probably find rooms bigger and I'd definitely view it though, along with the one in Leek I posted a link to (which was 20k cheaper).

    I do like Leek, and my sister misses her old house. Going from one where she had solid walls, three huge rooms to a new build (plaugued with problems) to smaller rooms, studded walls and a tiny garden - double the price it makes you realise as first time buyer homes you can get a good buy.
    • AnotherJoe
    • By AnotherJoe 9th May 18, 8:04 AM
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    not sure whats wrong with rightmove or if someone is adding and deleting this ad
    but
    "Agents Note
    None of these services, built in appliances, or where applicable, central heating systems have been tested by the Agents and we are unable to comment on their serviceability."
    would mean to me - you have to invest into a new central heating
    Originally posted by bhjm

    Thats is standard boilerplate text You are reading far too much into it.
    • ScorpiondeRooftrouser
    • By ScorpiondeRooftrouser 9th May 18, 9:18 AM
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    Well - it's small, cramped and outdated. The front door opens directly into the lounge. There's no parking. Kitchen is awful, bathroom is spartan. The garden is a mess and looks neglected.


    However, if you are ok with these things and the house, because of these things, is all you can afford in the area you want to buy, then there's no reason you shouldn't buy it as long as you pay the right price.
    • pimento
    • By pimento 9th May 18, 9:35 AM
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    Is there a link to the house the OP is referring to that actually works?
    "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." -- Red Adair
    • ReadingTim
    • By ReadingTim 9th May 18, 9:46 AM
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    The "no onward chain" plus dated kitchen & bathroom suggest it's a probate sale which may be dragging on - it was possible that it was put on the market before probate was granted, and any offers it received pulled out as it was uncertain when the sale would complete. Alternatively, the beneficiaries can't agree on a price to accept and buyers pull out. With each withdrawal, interest diminishes so the asking price needs to be reduced. In terms of viewing, if there isn't any real damp problems, the fact it's unoccupied (especially over a winter) means it'll smell musty and damp, which may scare people off. It's empty, so people can't visualise living there, plus what fixtures are there are dated, so the cost and hassle of replacing them may also scare people off, especially FTBs.

    Dunno how busy the road it's on actually is, but it is an A Road, and parking doesn't look great - cars on the pavement etc. Unless you're a gardener, the 2 gardens thing is probably more of a hassle than a feature and there's no way you'll remove the right of way to unite them.

    So in summary, I don't think there's too much "wrong" with the house, but there aren't many people who want to buy it.
    • NaughtiusMaximus
    • By NaughtiusMaximus 9th May 18, 10:10 AM
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    The garden set up is bizarre and I suspect this might be why its not selling.
    Originally posted by Hutch100uk
    It's not that uncommon a layout for late 19th/early 20th century terraces, we spotted a few like that when househunting last year.

    Is there a link to the house the OP is referring to that actually works?
    Originally posted by pimento
    The one in the OP works fine for me.
    • Out, Vile Jelly
    • By Out, Vile Jelly 9th May 18, 10:30 AM
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    If houses in your area on your budget are of a similar era/type you should be able to get a feel for the average price for a mid-terrace 2 bed with on-street parking.

    I would see the garden as an interesting challenge; would be great to have a separate fruit/veg plot and do some creative planting near the house. The kitchen would need replacing eventually but is functional; many people in rental properties live with fixtures like that!

    So the lack of interest suggests something major and structural. If you like it enough to buy with problems, you are going to have to do serious homework on quotes for work, and factor in the time and hassle as well as the cost when making an offer.
    They are an EYESORES!!!!
    • pimento
    • By pimento 9th May 18, 11:57 AM
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    I found it by doing detective work in the thread. The link still doesn't work for me. I wonder if that's why it hasn't sold..
    "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." -- Red Adair
    • Candyapple
    • By Candyapple 9th May 18, 12:24 PM
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    I found it by doing detective work in the thread. The link still doesn't work for me. I wonder if that's why it hasn't sold..
    Originally posted by pimento
    Same. For anyone else who the link isn't working for, the details are here:
    http://www.vebra.com/details/property/27047755

    No floorplan would put some people off. Is the bathroom on the ground floor?

    Major points I think would put majority off would be no parking, door leads straight into lounge, whole house needs re-decorating.

    What is the ceiling price for houses in this area? Maybe if all that came to a lot of money people aren't willing to pay it because if they choose to resell in future, there would be no equity and may have to sell for less than they paid.
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    • seashore22
    • By seashore22 9th May 18, 1:14 PM
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    The original link doesn't work for me either. Says that the property can't be found.

    Perhaps this will work:

    http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-65066128.html

    That is very weird. I tested the link after posting and it took you straight to the right house and now it says what the original link said - that it can't be found. Buy this house op. It's a supernatural mystery waiting to be solved.
    Last edited by seashore22; 09-05-2018 at 1:22 PM.
    • westernpromise
    • By westernpromise 9th May 18, 1:50 PM
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    The trouble/good thing is I'm not moving to be near family or start a new job or whatever, I'm just moving for a fresh start. It makes for a very wide search area! I'm open to suggestions/discouragements.

    Good tips on Leek and Cheadle though, thanks todayisagreatday
    Originally posted by YoungBlueEyes
    How about Stafford? Or is that too far south?
    http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-72679679.html

    Or Nantwich?
    http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-54175611.html
    Buying a house, if you believe the market has a way to fall, or if you are paying sill asking prices ( like some sheeple ) or if you are buying in London, is now a massive financial gamble!!!!! - June 8, 2012 by TheCountOfNowhere
    • ScorpiondeRooftrouser
    • By ScorpiondeRooftrouser 9th May 18, 3:29 PM
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    Same. For anyone else who the link isn't working for, the details are here:
    http://www.vebra.com/details/property/27047755

    No floorplan would put some people off. Is the bathroom on the ground floor?

    Major points I think would put majority off would be no parking, door leads straight into lounge, whole house needs re-decorating.

    What is the ceiling price for houses in this area? Maybe if all that came to a lot of money people aren't willing to pay it because if they choose to resell in future, there would be no equity and may have to sell for less than they paid.
    Originally posted by Candyapple
    I don't think the ceiling price is an issue - that house, done up to the nines, isn't even going to scratch the ceiling price of the area because it's so small.

    I don't think there's much of a mystery to be honest; it just looks tiny. Judging by the photos the quoted room sizes are..."deceptive".
    • Cakeguts
    • By Cakeguts 9th May 18, 3:52 PM
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    I'd prefer Leek or Ashbourne to Cheadle tbh, but my budget disagrees!

    I saw a really lovely house in Burton on Trent. If you could put that in Ashbourne or Leek I'd be a happy gal. But if it was in either of those towns they could just write 0's til their arm fell off as an asking price ha haa!

    Lemme see if I can find a link, cos it's just about perfect as an example of what I'm after.

    Edit: it's gone It was on Forest Road, on for 122,950. There is this one though, not as nice but looks alright -
    http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-64729726.html
    Originally posted by YoungBlueEyes
    f

    That one is an ex council house so you might want to visit the estate on different days and at different times to see what it is like.
    • Cakeguts
    • By Cakeguts 9th May 18, 4:13 PM
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    Different area. How about something like this http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-71601548.html
    • westernpromise
    • By westernpromise 9th May 18, 5:20 PM
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    Different area. How about something like this http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-71601548.html
    Originally posted by Cakeguts
    Budget appears to be ~100k which which would put that one out of reach.

    There's a 1-bed with OSP in Stone for 81k:
    http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-73054025.html

    Maybe Uttoxeter?
    http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-54183360.html
    Buying a house, if you believe the market has a way to fall, or if you are paying sill asking prices ( like some sheeple ) or if you are buying in London, is now a massive financial gamble!!!!! - June 8, 2012 by TheCountOfNowhere
    • todayisagreatday
    • By todayisagreatday 9th May 18, 6:32 PM
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    Nantwich - good luck with prices there. I loved in Cheshire for 12 years (Northwich) and worked in Crewe (definitely get something in Crewe but my opinion of it is very low). Nantwich has good schools and is classed as the 'posh' part of South Cheshire. Unlikely to get anything around 100k and if you do, definitely check the area as parts of Nantwich are really bad.

    Stafford isn't really the Peak District to be honest, and would easily take an hour plus to get to Cheadle or Leek which is the OPs preferred areas. I've just moved to Whitchurch in Shropshire. It reminds me a lot of Leek. It's a traditional market town, lots of walking and scenery, direct train links to Manchester, Shrewsbury and Wales (and Crewe to connect to London) - actually also two stops to Nantwich too.
    • YoungBlueEyes
    • By YoungBlueEyes 9th May 18, 10:20 PM
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    Re my budget. It's a bit fluid atm, I can't get a mortgage or credit or whatever so my pot is finite - I just don't know exactly what that'll be.

    We've accepted an offer on our house for 150k, so 75k each. With my savings I'll have 130k. But that's before solicitors and EA's and surveys ad removals etc etc.... I'm looking around the 120k and below, and I'm not afraid to make cheeky offers So maybe 100k but it needs work, fine. Maybe 120kish with no work, fine. I want to leave myself seed money to get started with again tho so I'm not spending it all.

    Bathroom could be on the ground floor (a no-no for me) but if the rest of it was good I could live with it. I've emailed the agent about it but still waiting for a reply...

    The link is being a PITA. On Rightmove - it's in Cheadle, Stoke on trent, a 2bed terrace, OA 99,950. Address is The Green, Cheadle. It's coming up in the listings

    The Stafford one looks alright, I'll add it to my viewing list. I don't want to be too close to Manchester tho. I have half sisters that live in Sandbach and Nantwich, I'd prefer a good distance between us.

    The Matlock one looks just right, I've emailed the agent and fingers crossed I can still view it!

    The Uttoxeter one is worth a look. For the Stone one - I don't like stairs in the lounge.

    And as for giving me another county to look at - I'll add it to my list
    • YoungBlueEyes
    • By YoungBlueEyes 9th May 18, 10:35 PM
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    After a very quick look, this is the kind of thing I'd like -

    http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-64971730.html

    Mid terrace, no stairs in the lounge, bathroom upstairs, no paved yard/patio gig. I like a garden to have actual grass and flowers in it

    I haven't checked about area and shared access nonsense and room sizes etc, but that's the type of thing. Rooms do look a bit small but that's an acceptable compromise for a nice house in the right area.

    Or a semi like this maybe (again just for the style, not studied area etc etc)

    http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-54223968.html

    I hope these links work!
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