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    • abandonded
    • By abandonded 5th May 18, 3:29 PM
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    Food Standards Agency Ratings Warning
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    Food Standards Agency Ratings Warning 5th May 18 at 3:29 PM
    I was very surprised to read that a number of popular eating places in my area were given the classification !!!8220;Improvement Needed!!!8221;at the last inspection rather than a !!!8220;Pass!!!8221; as given to most places inspected.
    Is there any way one can find out exactly what is wrong with these establishments which failed to get a pass? You can check out your favourite eating places here:

    https://www.food.gov.uk/safety-hygiene/food-hygiene-rating-scheme

    PS. No idea where the numbers are coming from. I delete them but they keep reappearing.
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    • Nilrem
    • By Nilrem 5th May 18, 5:20 PM
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    The numbers are IIRC something to do with Apple devices/IOS and certain symbols.

    If you go to the page you linked to and click the search you can get a return for companies and see how they did in each to the categories.
    I think this link should do it direct http://ratings.food.gov.uk/

    Often the reason for a lower rating in a good place might be because they've not necessarily got the most modern facilities, or the training isn't quite up to scratch.

    One of my favourite places had a low rating in one of the categories because they are based in an older premises and IIRC it was something like not having a separate delivery area, whilst another place (that I stopped using ages ago) had a great rating for the facilities but a very low rating for training.management and it showed (the food was variable quality hence why I stopped using them as it was barely cooked at times).

    IIRC you can ask for the full report from the inspector as well, but they don't always provide.
    • custardy
    • By custardy 5th May 18, 8:19 PM
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    • 5th May 18, 8:19 PM
    I was very surprised to read that a number of popular eating places in my area were given the classification !!!8220;Improvement Needed!!!8221;at the last inspection rather than a !!!8220;Pass!!!8221; as given to most places inspected.
    Is there any way one can find out exactly what is wrong with these establishments which failed to get a pass? You can check out your favourite eating places here:

    https://www.food.gov.uk/safety-hygiene/food-hygiene-rating-scheme

    PS. No idea where the numbers are coming from. I delete them but they keep reappearing.
    Originally posted by abandonded
    You have linked to the very site that gives you the answer

    Detailed information is included in the food safety officer’s inspection report. If you want to see this you could make a Freedom of Information (FOI) request to the local authority that carried out the inspection. You can find the local authority’s contact details by searching for the business and then clicking on the name of the business.
    • hollydays
    • By hollydays 5th May 18, 8:31 PM
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    Is this the same as scores on the doors?
    https://www.scoresonthedoors.org.uk
    • forgotmyname
    • By forgotmyname 5th May 18, 10:29 PM
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    Is this the same as scores on the doors?
    https://www.scoresonthedoors.org.uk
    Originally posted by hollydays

    No the original link is the genuine UK GOV site, the one you linked to appears to scrape the genuine one and add some adverts.
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    • Faith177
    • By Faith177 6th May 18, 12:00 AM
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    Use to hate EHO visits you can lose marks over the stupidest of things for example the fridge being too full but no allowances for having an event on that night and getting a delivery in the morning, mop bucket left out when the place was in the middle of a close down and mopping was the next job even a sticky door hinge meaning the door closes a little slow will doc you a point or two
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    • Carrot007
    • By Carrot007 6th May 18, 3:37 PM
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    To be honest the rating are useless. Give just a pointless score without any specifics. They shoukld stop checking most things and just score individually on the thinsg a customer can't check.

    But then no nice simple score for idiots is there?
    • abandonded
    • By abandonded 9th May 18, 7:27 PM
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    They shoukld stop checking most things and just score individually on the thinsg a customer can't check.
    Originally posted by Carrot007

    Agreed. For example, on Rip Off Britain, yesterday, the programme highlighted 5 unnamed High St eating places all off which had a top rating of 5. Yet when a kids high chair from each of them was examined, all 5 had dangerously high levels of bacteria which could cause illness. Sadly, there were no comments from the councils which rated the eating houses.
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    • By Blackbeard of Perranporth 10th May 18, 12:31 PM
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    Agreed. For example, on Rip Off Britain, yesterday, the programme highlighted 5 unnamed High St eating places all off which had a top rating of 5. Yet when a kids high chair from each of them was examined, all 5 had dangerously high levels of bacteria which could cause illness. Sadly, there were no comments from the councils which rated the eating houses.
    Originally posted by abandonded
    This morning our cat waltzed on the side in the kitchen while I filled his bowls. I wiped the side and did breakfast. I have done this for around forty years with various cats and have not suffered. I will do the same again tomorrow.
    Meanwhile watching the ogle box during the day gives you misery!
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    • hollydays
    • By hollydays 10th May 18, 9:37 PM
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    Agreed. For example, on Rip Off Britain, yesterday, the programme highlighted 5 unnamed High St eating places all off which had a top rating of 5. Yet when a kids high chair from each of them was examined, all 5 had dangerously high levels of bacteria which could cause illness. Sadly, there were no comments from the councils which rated the eating houses.
    Originally posted by abandonded
    I think exposure to germs is a good thing
    • isplumm
    • By isplumm 12th May 18, 9:26 PM
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    I think exposure to germs is a good thing
    Originally posted by hollydays
    I love these ads where certain cleaning products claim to kill 99% of all known germs ... what about the 1% of germs it doesn't kill!!

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    • LadyDee
    • By LadyDee 13th May 18, 12:22 PM
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    I love these ads where certain cleaning products claim to kill 99% of all known germs ... what about the 1% of germs it doesn't kill!!

    Mark
    Originally posted by isplumm
    and otherwise it's UP TO 100%! Absolutely meaningless.
    • hollydays
    • By hollydays 13th May 18, 4:52 PM
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    I love these ads where certain cleaning products claim to kill 99% of all known germs ... what about the 1% of germs it doesn't kill!!

    Mark
    Originally posted by isplumm
    If there are some germs they don't know about, how do they know they exist?
    • anamenottaken
    • By anamenottaken 13th May 18, 8:16 PM
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    If there are some germs they don't know about, how do they know they exist?
    Originally posted by hollydays

    Your question does not follow from the original statement.
    That doesn't say there are germs they don't know about but allows for there being germs they don't know about - a possibility, not a fact of existing.
    • hollydays
    • By hollydays 13th May 18, 8:18 PM
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    Your question does not follow from the original statement.
    That doesn't say there are germs they don't know about but allows for there being germs they don't know about - a possibility, not a fact of existing.
    Originally posted by anamenottaken
    Yes I thought someone might say that-sue me
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