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    • crazy_cat_lady
    • By crazy_cat_lady 3rd May 18, 9:50 AM
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    Crazy Cat Lady Chapter 3 - A New Beginning
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    • 3rd May 18, 9:50 AM
    Crazy Cat Lady Chapter 3 - A New Beginning 3rd May 18 at 9:50 AM
    Good morning everyone,

    I've had a bit of a break from the forums over the past couple of months, but today seems like a good time to come back on here and to start a new diary. An awful lot has changed in my life over the past couple of weeks and it's going to take some time and effort to adjust, and more than ever I need the support and accountability of being on here to keep me on the straight and narrow as far as my finances are concerned.
    I hope that some of my usual bunch have followed me to this diary, and welcome to anyone new that might be reading. I need all of the help and support that I can get...
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    • crazy_cat_lady
    • By crazy_cat_lady 8th May 18, 7:03 PM
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    Evening all

    Well, it's been a long day but I've survived. Thank goodness Tuesday is a quiet teaching day for me as it gave me plenty of time to sort out my classroom (destroyed in my absence) and catch up on bits of work that I've missed. I got a massive chunk of it done so feel better. But I am absolutely shattered. I've gone from pottering around back into full pelt teacher mode, and it was a hot day, and it's exam time so I think a very early night will be on the cards tonight.

    Got home for half past four as I knew husband was coming to visit the kids after his doctor's appointment. He is still in a really upbeat mood - which I find confusing. I'm really pleased that he's doing ok, but I feel sad that both he and I are happier without each other. We're still talking more than we have done in recent months, and I'm pleased that he is making steps to help himself. He stayed for a couple of hours and then headed back to my dad's on the bus. I managed to hold off the tears till he'd gone, but I've had a blimming good cry. I'm not sure why... this has all been my choice, and I'm not changing my mind about what I've done - I just feel a bit sad that it's cost our marriage for us both to be happier. I tried so hard to make things work, and couldn't - so I'm sad for that as well.

    7pm and I haven't done anything... Although I have bagged another nsd. I still need to have a shower, prepare tomorrow's lunches and try and find time to wind down with a bit of crochet.
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    • beanielou
    • By beanielou 8th May 18, 7:23 PM
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    Glad you have survived school
    Always difficult after a break up.
    I seperated from my DH 22 years ago & still yet have the if only's (Not often!)
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    • apple muncher
    • By apple muncher 8th May 18, 8:28 PM
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    Well done on getting through everything today. Hope you sleep well tonight.
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    • AspiringButAnxious
    • By AspiringButAnxious 9th May 18, 9:50 AM
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    Glad things are going well and if anyone deserves sn unproductive day, it's you!

    I suspect dh is upbeat because this is a relief for him, as well as you. I don't want to make assumptions about how he feels, but it was a difficult and fraught situation for him, too. Perhaps moving out has given him space to sort out his thoughts a little. He may have felt burdened by the sense of responsibility -- though his behaviour may have made it seem like he didn't care, depression makes you feel incredibly useless, hopeless and guilty. While we tend to think of relationships and family as sources of support, which is true, they can also feel like a burden when you have mental health problems. It feels like you're not living up to your side of the bargain and it takes its toll.

    You are probably better positioned to help dh as a friend, rather than a wife. He needs to take responsibility for himself and learn that he is strong enough to manage his mental health in the long term. You can provide help and support, but you couldn't continue to give so much of your time and energy that it affected your wellbeing.

    Have you tried explaining to dd that dh's depression makes it hard to communicate how he feels? I think that's true of a lot of men in general -- they connect more easily with sons because they think they have more in common and can relate to them. It becomes a bit of a self-perpetuating thing, because it means they are more likely to spend time with their sons (eg going to football coaching/matches), which makes them feel more connected.

    It's the same with me and my dad: I'm convinced, most of the time, that he prefers my brother because they do more stuff together (golf, skittles, watching/talking about various sports). My mum claims otherwise, which makes sense because my brother is a **** most of the time! I soend more time with my mum, which I suppose balances it out.

    Maybe tell dd that while it's difficult atm, her dad needs support from all of you. As you say, a couple of minutes together can make a huge difference. If she feels she can't express herself in person, maybe she could write or make a card for her dad? Nothing too full-on -- a simple "thinking of you" is perfect. I think it's important for both dd and dh to keep the channels of communication open, without forcing the issue.

    Sending you happy vibes
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    • crazy_cat_lady
    • By crazy_cat_lady 9th May 18, 9:23 PM
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    Beanielou, Apple, ABA - Thank you all for such kind words. I am trying to be kind to myself and accept the good days and bad days as they come, but I'm so impatient and want everything to be ok. I genuinely want my husband to move on and be happy, and I am pleased that he's doing well at the moment. It is definitely the best thing for both of us - even if it doesn't feel like it sometimes. DD did stay and see him for a while yesterday although she insists it was really awkward. I said it's just new and she needs to get used to it - the same as I do. No news from him today - which is fine. I have had a very busy day and too much to do to think much about it...

    It was Parents Evening tonight, so I was in work until after six. I was non stop all day - used my frees to get caught up on more work that I'd missed last week and then straight into speaking to parents. By the time I got home it was almost 7pm, and I had arranged a meeting with a lovely lady who is going to look after the cats for me at the end of the month. She was here until about 8pm and by then I was too tired to be bothered making dinner on top of the other jobs, so I caved in and ordered takeaway. I am annoyed that I lost my nsd, but I am also trying to be kind to myself, and whilst it is an excuse to say I was too tired to bother, it's the truth and there's nothing I can do about it now. I have gotten chicken out of the freezer to make sure there's something quick and easy for dinner tomorrow so I don't fall into that trap again - just need to decide what to do with it.

    I've done the usual little jobs - washing, bins are out etc. but I think that I might be too tired to bother with any crochet tonight. I just want to go to sleep. I've felt less tired today than I was yesterday, but I got way less sleep last night... Now I've stopped I've hit a bit of a wall and am just desperate to go to bed. I have clean covers on tonight and it's always lovely to get into bed with clean bedding.
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    • nmlc
    • By nmlc 10th May 18, 6:38 AM
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    Morning everyone

    I hope you don't mind me posting, but I've read your thread and was always interested to read your posts from before.

    I just wanted to say you shouldn't be so hard on yourself about not being able to make your marriage work, there's 2 people in a marriage and 1 of those people can't continually put all the effort and work in whilst the other doesn't bother - it has to be a joint and equal effort. It show's completely how committed and what a good wife you were to stick it out for so long, trying to help - in the end he made the choice through his actions.

    You did your utmost to keep the marriage together but as I said one person can't do all the work.

    I haven't meant to offend anyone, this is just my thoughts.

    Keep safe and well x

    nmlc x
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    • crazy_cat_lady
    • By crazy_cat_lady 10th May 18, 7:01 PM
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    Hi nmlc - I appreciate your kind words, and am not even a little bit offended. It's very kind of you to say those things.

    I've had a really busy couple of days at work, and it feels as though I've never been away - everything there is back to normal. Lots to do, feeling very tired etc etc. Usual issues with Year 10 behaviour, but today I've remembered why I do the job I do, and am feeling quite a bit better in myself.

    My dad phoned me at lunchtime. Apparently my husband went to bed on Tuesday night, and my dad hadn't seen him since. I genuinely can't understand how someone can go from feeling so great to that level of crushing low in such a short period of time as overnight. I told my dad at least half a dozen times to ring 111 and ask for help. As of 6pm he still hadn't done that. I really need this all out of the way now - husband out of my dad's house and getting the help that he obviously is in desperate need of. I have googled rapid mood swings, and seem to think that his behaviour fits with borderline personality disorder. Still, I'm not a psychiatrist - I just need somone to take the situation seriously. However, my dad is an adult, and I made the decision that I couldn't help my husband any more so my dad now needs to make that decision as well. If I have to I will get involved again but I'd rather not.

    In other news, I've bagged another nsd and I've also managed to make a healthy meal out of the chicken - fried it with onions, courgettes and mushrooms and it's been lovely. Way cheaper and better for us than a takeaway.

    Bank balance looking very scary and still 3 weeks until payday. Boo hiss.
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    • beanielou
    • By beanielou 10th May 18, 8:44 PM
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    My bank balance id truely dire too
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    "A large income is the best recipe for happiness I ever heard of" Jane Austen in Mansfield Park.
    ***Fall down seven times,stand up eight*** ~~Japanese proverb.
    It starts with you, it starts from now. *** It is ok to be me.***
    ***Keep plodding***
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    • wishingthemortgaheaway
    • By wishingthemortgaheaway 10th May 18, 10:24 PM
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    My bank balance id truely dire too
    Originally posted by beanielou
    Mine too... stupid cars!!!!!
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    • natsplatnat
    • By natsplatnat 11th May 18, 8:11 AM
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    I have googled rapid mood swings, and seem to think that his behaviour fits with borderline personality disorder.
    Originally posted by crazy_cat_lady

    My first thought was 'bi-polar'. Again, no doctor/psychiatrist but my SIL is b-p and has amazing high and amazing low moods. Sometimes the swing between the two is gradual, sometimes it almost changes overnight.


    Hope you have a great day CCL! x
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    • AspiringButAnxious
    • By AspiringButAnxious 11th May 18, 10:53 AM
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    Regardless of whether dh has bpd (which, as you say, can only be diagnosed by a psychiatrist), depression by itself can cause huge drops in mood. It's easy to get caught up in a negative thought spiral, so that a small setback seems to confirm all the negative beliefs you have ever held about yourself anc your expectations.

    Unfortunately, mental health problems tend to cause and exacerbate other problems so there is plenty of evidence to support negative thoughts and beliefs. In my own case, it's easy to confirm that my life is !!!! because my mental health has (both directly and indirectly) affected my finances, ability to find and keep work, physical health, weight, perpetual singledom, lack of social life, etc. It can be hard to find positives when you are surrounded by so many problems, even if other people think the positives are obvious.

    You feel like a massive burden on everyone and believe it would be better for them if you weren't here. You feel like you don't deserve help and support, because you are a horrible person. You think you don't deserve opportunities because your problems are "proof" that you are a failure and therefore destined to always fail. This is why depression (and other mental illnesses) has such a firm grip on people -- even those of us who have found the motivation to help ourselves and attempt to manage our mental health.

    I'm glad dd decided to see him. No matter how awkward it felt, it's important that dh realises his kids love him and want him in their lives. Otherwise the situation becomes more "proof" of his negative beliefs ("I'm worthless", "nobody really cares about me", "I've failed as a parent"). He needs reassurance right now, because I suspect he is unable to reassure himself.

    While he's not your responsibility, you will always have a connection because of your kids and it's important to let him know his role in their life is valued. That they (and you) want him to be able to manage his mental health, if/when he can, and live a fulfilling life. It may feel pointless to keep reiterating those messages, but he needs to hear them because the messages in his own head are overwhelmingly negative and unsupportive. It may be frustrating to keep encouraging him to get help when he seems to ignore you, but there's a chance the message could get through: that he deserves help, deserves a better life.

    Try to remember that his symptoms are not intentional, even if they sometimes feel like a personal attack on you and/or the kids. His refusal to get help is a symptom, too. Protect your wellbeing first and foremost, but realise that he is suffering and it's not his fault. It can be hard not to judge and make assumptions (I'm guilty of this, despite my loooong history of anxiety, depression and bpd), but that just makes the situation worse. When his behaviour is upsetting, remind yourself that he's doing the best he can in this moment. We all do the best we can in any given moment and sometimes our best is self-destructive and hurts other people, but we don't intend to be hurtful.
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    • beanielou
    • By beanielou 11th May 18, 1:23 PM
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    Happy Friday
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    "A large income is the best recipe for happiness I ever heard of" Jane Austen in Mansfield Park.
    ***Fall down seven times,stand up eight*** ~~Japanese proverb.
    It starts with you, it starts from now. *** It is ok to be me.***
    ***Keep plodding***
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    • crazy_cat_lady
    • By crazy_cat_lady 11th May 18, 6:50 PM
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    Evening everyone

    Finally made it to Friday, which is my busiest day at work. Good and bad - because it's so busy and I get really tired, but it flies over really quickly so I'm home and relaxing for the weekend. Took ds to his swimming lesson straight from school then got home and have put my jammies on and my feet up ready for a night of relaxing in front of the telly. I have a grocery delivery coming between 8 and 9 tonight, and I suspect I'll be in bed not very long after that - living the high life

    No word from my dad today other than a brief text to say there was no change and he hadn't rang 111. ABA, please believe me when I say I honestly do understand that he is ill. Please also believe me when I say I've tried everything in my power in the past 16 years to help and support him, but ultimately I fell into the role of being his mother rather than his wife. And that isn't the role I wanted. There's loads more that I want to say but I don't know how it will come across when it's written down. I love him, I fell in love with him and I tried so hard to help him get better. But now I've made the decision that I can't help him any more, and I need to look after myself and my children. And that is exactly what I will do. Ultimately I hope he will see that it's better for him as well. I just wish I could get him a proper psychiatric assessment... but I can't.

    Nothing much else to report at this end. My brain is way too tired to think of anything...
    Last edited by crazy_cat_lady; 12-05-2018 at 9:42 AM.
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    • beanielou
    • By beanielou 11th May 18, 7:25 PM
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    Enjoy your evening in front of the TV.
    Lou~ Debt free Wanabe No 55 DF 03/03/14.
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    "A large income is the best recipe for happiness I ever heard of" Jane Austen in Mansfield Park.
    ***Fall down seven times,stand up eight*** ~~Japanese proverb.
    It starts with you, it starts from now. *** It is ok to be me.***
    ***Keep plodding***
    Out of debt, out of danger.
    • crazy_cat_lady
    • By crazy_cat_lady 12th May 18, 9:51 AM
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    Morning all

    I watched a really rubbish film last night beanilou - I had thought it sounded good, but it was a bit wooden and not that well acted to be honest. Never mind though - I made progress on my crochet temperature blanket and am almost at the end of March. Still a bit of a way to go to catch up then

    Got quite a good night of sleep and got up early to do my house jobs and get them out of the way so I can relax and unwind a bit this weekend. I've done a load of washing, washed the dishes and popped into town to pick up a couple of parcels. I have also written my nephew's birthday card and sorted ds lunch money for next week. I'm now back in front of the tv with dd watching Tangled (which is one of my favourites). I do make it sound as though all I do is watch telly and crochet I promise I actually work quite hard.

    Bestie is coming over this afternoon for our usual weekend coffee and catch up, which will be lovely as always, and as I say, this is my one day to relax and unwind a bit.
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    • beanielou
    • By beanielou 12th May 18, 10:38 AM
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    Have a lovely day.
    The sun is shining here
    Lou~ Debt free Wanabe No 55 DF 03/03/14.
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    "A large income is the best recipe for happiness I ever heard of" Jane Austen in Mansfield Park.
    ***Fall down seven times,stand up eight*** ~~Japanese proverb.
    It starts with you, it starts from now. *** It is ok to be me.***
    ***Keep plodding***
    Out of debt, out of danger.
    • wishingthemortgaheaway
    • By wishingthemortgaheaway 12th May 18, 2:07 PM
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    Oooh is that a 2018 temperature blanket?
    I'm up to June of 2017 on mine, but keep stopping to do other projects.
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    • Steerpike88
    • By Steerpike88 12th May 18, 8:14 PM
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    Hey CCL! So glad I found your diary.
    I just want you to know that you're not responsible for him, he's in charge of his own life and he's decided for a free ride off you. Yes, he's had depression but he took you for granted and showed you utter contempt when you were the only one holding his life together.
    I do feel sad for him, but it was obvious that you couldn't help him anymore.
    You're amazing.
    Last edited by Steerpike88; 12-05-2018 at 9:00 PM.



    • apple muncher
    • By apple muncher 12th May 18, 8:34 PM
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    What is a temperature blanket???
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    • wishingthemortgaheaway
    • By wishingthemortgaheaway 12th May 18, 9:17 PM
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    What is a temperature blanket???
    Originally posted by apple muncher

    http://www.lionbrand.com/blog/what-is-a-temperature-blanket/
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