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    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 27th Apr 18, 11:39 AM
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    Do not appeal a UKPC Windscreen PCN (UKPC ARE BANNED BY THE DVLA - April/May 2018)
    • #1
    • 27th Apr 18, 11:39 AM
    Do not appeal a UKPC Windscreen PCN (UKPC ARE BANNED BY THE DVLA - April/May 2018) 27th Apr 18 at 11:39 AM
    UKPC ARE BANNED

    The DVLA have banned UKPC from obtaining consumer data:

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/aos_members_banned#incoming-1154926


    IF NEWBIES HAVE A WINDSCREEN PCN FROM UKPC NOW, WAIT FOR ANY NTK!

    Last edited by Coupon-mad; 14-05-2018 at 5:56 PM.
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

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    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 29th Apr 18, 10:53 AM
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    It seems a long time after the dodgy photos incidents for the DVLA to be issuing a suspension now. But there seems no doubt about the Independent's report that they are, once again, suspended from DVLA data access.

    So my previous question is even more pressing!

    If it's another suspension, how many are they allowed before being permanently kicked out?
    Last edited by Umkomaas; 29-04-2018 at 11:19 AM.
    We cannot provide you with a silver bullet to get you out of this. You have to be in for the long run, and need to involve yourself in research and work for you to get rid of this. It is not simple. We will help, but can't do it for you.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
    • Quentin
    • By Quentin 29th Apr 18, 10:58 AM
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    Presumably they are very good customers, so may have to do much worse to be permanently excluded
    • Grimble
    • By Grimble 29th Apr 18, 11:09 AM
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    Something to do with a court case for fly tipping and data protection breach.
    Last edited by Grimble; 29-04-2018 at 11:18 AM.
    • The Deep
    • By The Deep 29th Apr 18, 11:30 AM
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    I cannot see how this fine will affect their BPA membership.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 29th Apr 18, 11:43 AM
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    I cannot see how this fine will affect their BPA membership.
    Originally posted by The Deep
    But surely a BPA member must be squeaky clean for
    membership ..... UKPC are not and I doubt they ever
    will be .... it's the scammers way.

    For the BPA to clean up it's act, they must be seen
    to BE squeaky clean themselves and in reality they are NOT
    Last edited by beamerguy; 29-04-2018 at 1:51 PM.
    RBS - MNBA - CAPITAL ONE - LLOYDS

    DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR
    • twhitehousescat
    • By twhitehousescat 29th Apr 18, 12:14 PM
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    But surely a BPA member must be squeaky clean for
    membership ..... UKPC are not and I doubt they ever
    will be .... it's the scammers way.

    For the BPA to clean up it's act, they must be seen
    to BE sqeaky clean themselves and in reality they are NOT
    Originally posted by beamerguy
    the BPA is a members club , a club that members pay to enter ,

    the BPA is a trade body set up to protect its members

    full stop
    Time pretending I was asleep whilst under his desk , has given me insight to this sordid world
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 29th Apr 18, 12:27 PM
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    the BPA is a members club , a club that members pay to enter ,

    the BPA is a trade body set up to protect its members

    full stop
    Originally posted by twhitehousescat
    We know, that is why they are Gobi desert residents and
    especially when they show rubbish like this

    http://www.britishparking.co.uk/News/response-to-bbc-watchdog-responsible-parking-management-is-essential-for-a-better-parking-experience-
    RBS - MNBA - CAPITAL ONE - LLOYDS

    DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR
    • twhitehousescat
    • By twhitehousescat 29th Apr 18, 12:41 PM
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    "Our Association remains committed to raising standards in the management of parking on private land, and our Code of Practice is continuously developed through consultation with all key stakeholders *including consumer groups and government to ensure we set high standards for our members, but of course, it could be better."

    * amended to protect members
    Time pretending I was asleep whilst under his desk , has given me insight to this sordid world
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 29th Apr 18, 12:52 PM
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    "Our Association remains committed to raising standards in the management of parking on private land, and our Code of Practice is continuously developed through consultation with all key stakeholders *including consumer groups and government to ensure we set high standards for our members, but of course, it could be better."

    * amended to protect members
    Originally posted by twhitehousescat
    YUP they must try much harder or stay in the Gobi desert
    RBS - MNBA - CAPITAL ONE - LLOYDS

    DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR
    • waamo
    • By waamo 29th Apr 18, 1:49 PM
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    But surely a BPA member must be squeaky clean for
    membership ..... UKPC are not and I doubt they ever
    will be .... it's the scammers way.

    For the BPA to clean up it's act, they must be seen
    to BE sqeaky clean themselves and in reality they are NOT
    Originally posted by beamerguy
    .

    I must admit that made me laugh. I'm sure the BPA with it's convicted racist, sex offenders is squeaky clean.
    This space for hire.
    • Half_way
    • By Half_way 29th Apr 18, 2:05 PM
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    I've long held the belief that anyone/companny who has access to personal/private data should have some sort of check (CRB/DBS)
    And if that person has any criminal or other conviction such as Fraud/violence/theft/fraud/dishonesty etc etc then they and their organisation should be prohibited form having access to personal data
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
    • torontoboy45
    • By torontoboy45 29th Apr 18, 2:37 PM
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    Maybe I'm just being cynical when I think the DVLA has gone into Lets Do Something mode after February's HoC debate and the mild kicking it was subjected to.

    Yeah: cynical. That's me.
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 29th Apr 18, 2:45 PM
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    I've long held the belief that anyone/companny who has access to personal/private data should have some sort of check (CRB/DBS)
    And if that person has any criminal or other conviction such as Fraud/violence/theft/fraud/dishonesty etc etc then they and their organisation should be prohibited form having access to personal data
    Originally posted by Half_way
    100% agree with you but whilst the likes of UKPC have
    money to be BPA members, doubt the BPA would care
    even if they were Jack the Ripper.

    Money money money is the BPA's desire, not to mention
    that other bunch of scam cronies the IPC
    RBS - MNBA - CAPITAL ONE - LLOYDS

    DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 29th Apr 18, 2:49 PM
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    Maybe I'm just being cynical when I think the DVLA has gone into Lets Do Something mode after February's HoC debate and the mild kicking it was subjected to.

    Yeah: cynical. That's me.
    Originally posted by torontoboy45
    Whilst the DVLA are collecting this money, they don't
    give a damn.
    Shame they don't put it towards fixing our roads and the
    potholes that crop up daily
    RBS - MNBA - CAPITAL ONE - LLOYDS

    DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 29th Apr 18, 4:21 PM
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    I've long held the belief that anyone/company who has access to personal/private data should have some sort of check (CRB/DBS).

    And if that person has any criminal or other conviction such as Fraud/violence/theft/fraud/dishonesty etc etc then they and their organisation should be prohibited form having access to personal data
    Originally posted by Half_way
    I wholeheartedly agree.

    Makes me sick to think who is processing ordinary people's name & address data. People with a background of dishonesty & fraud; people with a background of violence, even sex offenders.

    I am NOT just talking about parking firms.

    IMHO, criminals should not be allowed to work in or run customer-facing, data holding companies.

    Of course, Martin Lewis also advises people to check reviews before using any company.

    You can look up any firm (PPC or other) and find what people are saying, e.g. by using Trust Pilot:

    https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.parkingeye.co.uk

    https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/privateparkingappeals.co.uk

    Here are two replies to reviews I found when browsing Trust Pilot about one of those companies:

    Reply from Private Parking Appeals Ltd
    Published 31 May 2018
    This review, and the conduct of the author, is the subject of criminal proceedings This is the class of person allowed to blatantly lie about businesses on Trustpilot..
    'Criminal'?

    Reply from Private Parking Appeals Ltd
    Published 01 May 2018
    This person was not our customer, and has not supplied any evidence of being so. Private Parking Appeals does not accept third party applications as per our terms and conditions.

    To be clear, the fraud here is the person claiming to have been our customer, when the parking ticket was in a completely different name. Perhaps rather than ranting, wrongly on here, and opening herself to legal proceedings, Miss Money should have read our terms and conditions.
    'Fraud'?
    Last edited by Coupon-mad; 30-06-2018 at 12:34 AM.
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
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    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • waamo
    • By waamo 29th Apr 18, 4:48 PM
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    I asked the DVLA about this issue a while ago. Their response was as long as the BPA were happy to have someone as a member then they would provide the data.

    Given the convictions some parking company bosses have got it did rather surprise me. They were more than happy to provide data to a convicted racist who made threats of rape.
    This space for hire.
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 29th Apr 18, 6:27 PM
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    I asked the DVLA about this issue a while ago. Their response was as long as the BPA were happy to have someone as a member then they would provide the data.

    Given the convictions some parking company bosses have got it did rather surprise me. They were more than happy to provide data to a convicted racist who made threats of rape.
    Originally posted by waamo
    Remember the famous interview by BBC Watchdog in 2014
    where Patrick Troy, CEO of the BPA and David Evans of
    the DVLA were grilled by Anne Robinson ?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oQnuBQQi1M
    Watch this video and the one that follows

    I thought at the time, here we have two very dodgy
    bods and we were not disappointed with the lack of
    interest from David Evans of the DVLA and upskirt
    Patrick Troy of the BPA who by the skin of his teeth
    missed going to prison

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/20/police-tried-ban-former-parking-association-boss-sitting-opposite/

    When you watch Evans and Troy they are both like
    a fish trying to wriggle off the hook.

    Couple this to the latest Watchdog 2 weeks ago, you will
    see Andrew Pester the new CEO wriggling just like Troy
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIaKMkO3YVM

    NOTHING HAS CHANGED and the BPA are still bosom
    BUDDIES with the DVLA. It is no wonder therefore that
    motorists are being fobbed off by the DVLA and the BPA
    RBS - MNBA - CAPITAL ONE - LLOYDS

    DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 29th Apr 18, 8:30 PM
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    More again on this from The Prankster.

    http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2018/04/ukpc-banned-by-dvla.html
    We cannot provide you with a silver bullet to get you out of this. You have to be in for the long run, and need to involve yourself in research and work for you to get rid of this. It is not simple. We will help, but can't do it for you.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 29th Apr 18, 8:47 PM
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    Originally posted by Umkomaas
    What will SCS law do ????
    RBS - MNBA - CAPITAL ONE - LLOYDS

    DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR
    • twhitehousescat
    • By twhitehousescat 29th Apr 18, 8:59 PM
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    What will SCS law do ????
    Originally posted by beamerguy
    go thru 5 yrs and 11 mths of unpayed tickets with glee
    Time pretending I was asleep whilst under his desk , has given me insight to this sordid world
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