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    • bertiewhite
    • By bertiewhite 16th Apr 18, 3:53 PM
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    Which console?
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    • 16th Apr 18, 3:53 PM
    Which console? 16th Apr 18 at 3:53 PM
    Easy question (I hope) - when my Xbox 360 finally gives up the ghost, what should I replace it with?

    I'm only an occasional gamer so I don't need the latest super-duper version but I'm thinking PS4 or Xbox One? More importantly, why?

    Everyone I've asked who has an Xbox says stay with Xbox as it's familiar and it's backwards compatible but everyone who has a PS4 says it's more than just a console.

    Ooh decisions, decisions.
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    • AndyPix
    • By AndyPix 2nd May 18, 2:22 PM
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    Guys just leave it yeah. I don't think there's anything else anyone can add to this conversation to improve it, unless we go back to the main point of discussion which is which console is most suitable for the OP.

    Personally, I find Playstation's games to be more satisfying, Uncharted and The Last Of Us etc are fantastic and it'd be a shame to miss out on them.
    Originally posted by Chickabiddybex

    Thats one thing that annoys me about having an Xbox rather than a playstation , I have never had the oppertunity to play Uncharted and I really like the look of that ..


    I just cant get on with the playstation controllers though - and i mainly just play call of duty
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    • Chickabiddybex
    • By Chickabiddybex 2nd May 18, 5:17 PM
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    You can get Xbox layout controllers for PlayStation! And I think Playstation Now has some Uncharted games and they can be played on PC if that helps.
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    • donnajunkie
    • By donnajunkie 2nd May 18, 6:12 PM
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    Kodi is fine to be there - have you not got that yet ?


    Whichever way you choose to customise it with addons IT CANNOT AFFECT YOUR XBOX


    Therefore is completely irrelevent as far as warranties are concerned.
    When they talk about stuff that's not meant to be there, they are referring to code not signed by microsoft ie - if you have jailbroken your console.


    Why are you finding this so hard to understand
    Originally posted by AndyPix
    I wasnt denying that. I explained how they might not look on it like you do when looking for an excuse to not fix your console. Yes the build may well not hurt the console but its on kodi and not on some online cloud and kodi is on the console. Therefore if they wanted they could argue you have done something you shouldnt and use that as an excuse to get out of the warranty.
    • donnajunkie
    • By donnajunkie 2nd May 18, 6:14 PM
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    It would cost them money. Have a look at the name of this website again. Your view was based on incorrect information, and it's OK if you want to change it now...
    Originally posted by almillar
    People can make their own mind up.
    • donnajunkie
    • By donnajunkie 2nd May 18, 6:20 PM
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    Thats one thing that annoys me about having an Xbox rather than a playstation , I have never had the oppertunity to play Uncharted and I really like the look of that ..


    I just cant get on with the playstation controllers though - and i mainly just play call of duty
    Originally posted by AndyPix
    The controllers have improved alot from ps3 to ps4 and it really is just a matter of getting used to them. If you can afford it and justify the money then i would get one. Remember the first 3 uncharted games are also on ps4 remastered. The first one isnt great though. The last of us is a must game and the best game i have ever played, even better than uncharted.
    • AndyPix
    • By AndyPix 3rd May 18, 9:05 AM
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    I wasnt denying that. I explained how they might not look on it like you do when looking for an excuse to not fix your console. Yes the build may well not hurt the console but its on kodi and not on some online cloud and kodi is on the console. Therefore if they wanted they could argue you have done something you shouldnt and use that as an excuse to get out of the warranty.
    Originally posted by donnajunkie

    No - they absolutely could not - Please stop saying this

    Just one final explanation and then im not discussing this anymore ..


    Kodi is allowed and fine on xbox - we have established that.


    Now - a build is not a program, it is not an executable file, it is just a confiuguration file for kodi (telling it what skins to use, and what addons to install - and remember, these addons are not executable files either - they just tell kodi what URLs to use for media locations).


    Now Kodi is just a media player, which has the ability to stream media over a network - be it your own network, or a location on the internet.


    So kodi, or the addon , or the build, doesnt know or care if this media file that it is told to play is your own home movies, or an illegal copy of a film - to it, it is just a media file.


    So can you see now, nothing dodgy is going on on the xbox, or the build, or the addon or anything atall.
    The only questionable thing is the legitimacy of the media file that it has been instructed to play.


    The xbox, kodi, the build and the addon are all acting completely legitimately - no shady code is running, you have not modified your xbox ..


    The only shady thing is the person who uploaded the movie to whatever streaming server that particular build is pointing at.


    So once again, the xbox, and kodi are doing exactly what they were designed to do - streaming a media file - thats it !!


    Hopefully this will finally get through and you will understand how microsoft will absolutely completely not care that you have kodi installed - whatsoever - because it is simply a means to stream media - If you choose to use it to stream illegal media - thats your business .



    For you to void your warranty, microsoft would have to prove that what you did resulted in damage to your hardware. For example, overclocking a PC


    That is the law - not my opinion


    And as i have explained numerous times - that is completely totally and absolutely impossible by installing kodi and any build imaginable


    Thats the most thourough explanation i can give - if you dont get it now then i give up


    Andy
    Last edited by AndyPix; 03-05-2018 at 9:46 AM.
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    • ifstar
    • By ifstar 3rd May 18, 1:09 PM
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    Don't think it can be explained any clearer andy but some folk will still disagree because of what scare stories they have read and wrong assumptions that they have made.

    If Microsoft were in any way shape or form bothered about kodi then they wouldn't have allowed it to be installed. Another argument for is that it is much more powerful than a firestick so can stream bigger or higher resolution files.
    • cjdavies
    • By cjdavies 4th May 18, 3:51 PM
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    If you havent had a sony for ages may i suggest the following games,
    Horizon zero dawn.
    Uncharted 4.
    Uncharted lost legacy.
    The last of us.
    Originally posted by donnajunkie
    Never had the PS3 but bought the PS4 and was interested in this game, so I bought and played the Uncharted Nathan Drake collection first (first 3 games), played all back to back - loved it, my type of game.
    • donnajunkie
    • By donnajunkie 4th May 18, 6:48 PM
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    Never had the PS3 but bought the PS4 and was interested in this game, so I bought and played the Uncharted Nathan Drake collection first (first 3 games), played all back to back - loved it, my type of game.
    Originally posted by cjdavies
    The second one is the best. The recent lost legacy is very good despite there being no nathan drake in it. Its slightly shorter but not much shorter in my opinion.
    • Chickabiddybex
    • By Chickabiddybex 8th May 18, 3:51 PM
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    I loved Lost Legacy! Very different to the other Uncharted games with the open map sort of layout but kept all the great aspects of the game.
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    • AMO
    • By AMO 23rd May 18, 8:13 AM
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    Easy question (I hope) - when my Xbox 360 finally gives up the ghost, what should I replace it with?

    I'm only an occasional gamer so I don't need the latest super-duper version but I'm thinking PS4 or Xbox One? More importantly, why?

    Everyone I've asked who has an Xbox says stay with Xbox as it's familiar and it's backwards compatible but everyone who has a PS4 says it's more than just a console.

    Ooh decisions, decisions.
    Originally posted by bertiewhite

    Hi, I had the same decision a few months ago. Aside from the fact that any good deal will tilt your decision, this was my line of thought....

    Bottom line:
    - If you're going Xbox, get an XBox One S
    - If you're going PS4, get a PS4 Pro.

    Other factors I had, but were subsequently changed:

    - I'm more of a Microsoft fan with Halo and Ghost Recon split-screen. Getting the lads round and using a projector was a big thing. However, split screen is a thing of the past.

    - Games on Xbox are really few - especially exclusives compared to PS4 in the current generation.

    - In the past, my view was that VR on PS4 would be rubbish and wait for XBox One X. But the reality is that XBox One X doesn't have a big enough customer base (VR will only ever be a fraction of the total base) and so even with a powerful machine, XBox One X is holding off on VR whilst it tries to improve its customer base. By the time it does, PS5 is likely to be on the horizon.

    - Many PS4 owners I know are upgrading naturally to a PS4 Pro (although some are opting to get the VR).

    In the end I purchased a PS4 Pro. The people that upgraded I know regardless of background in PS/XBox all went for PS4 although some did, because of a good deal on the XBox One S, opt for that.

    I guess it doesn't matter which route you take, but my view is that to be cautious forking out for the XBox One X as its a lot of money and might not be going anyway - the XBox One S is vastly superior in terms of value. With PS4, it's up to you whether the additional cost to the PS4 Pro is worth it, but I'm happy I did - I use the apps a lot (e.g. to watch Amazon Prime and Netflix) and a friend that has had both PS4 and PS4 Pro said that navigation in the menus and apps is a better experience with the PS4 Pro, so I am happy. But others rather like to save the extra money or put it to the VR.
    • unholyangel
    • By unholyangel 24th May 18, 1:40 PM
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    Thats one thing that annoys me about having an Xbox rather than a playstation , I have never had the oppertunity to play Uncharted and I really like the look of that ..


    I just cant get on with the playstation controllers though - and i mainly just play call of duty
    Originally posted by AndyPix
    You can play the first 3 on a pc via ps now subscription (and many other ps exclusive games). An xbox controller will work with most of the games but some require dualshock (like last of us when you need to shake the controller to fix your flickering flashlight). From memory I dont think uncharted needed the dualshock but I might be wrong.
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    • Twilightargent
    • By Twilightargent 5th Jun 18, 12:36 AM
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    Easy question (I hope) - when my Xbox 360 finally gives up the ghost, what should I replace it with?

    I'm only an occasional gamer so I don't need the latest super-duper version but I'm thinking PS4 or Xbox One? More importantly, why?

    Everyone I've asked who has an Xbox says stay with Xbox as it's familiar and it's backwards compatible but everyone who has a PS4 says it's more than just a console.

    Ooh decisions, decisions.
    Originally posted by bertiewhite
    I've played games for 35 years now, and I think it depends on what you like to play. I play everything so i buy all the consoles, but I usually wait for them to be dirt cheap and second hand.

    It really depends on what kind of games you like and what your style is, you said you're pretty casual so maybe you will find things you like on any system? If you like RPG's then you can't really go wrong with PS4 or Xbox. Some games being mascots of the company will of course only be produced on the manufacturers own system, Final fantasy is released usually only on Sony machines, though there are a few exceptions, Mario/Zelda on Nintendo, I think Halo is only on Xbox/PC
    I don't worry about what systems got the better graphics because yes I want to play something that I can gawp at that makes me go wow a lot but I can equally have fun playing something Retro like Shovel Knight - which I highly recommend btw

    I've got a Snes, Gamecube, N64, Ps1, Ps2, Xbox 360, PC, Nintendo DS, GBA, and a Switch...and I still play all of them from time to time.
    My sister has bought a PS4 and raves about it, and how amazing it is, she loves those Japanese RPGS I used to play before kids when I had time

    My personal favourites are definitely the Xbox, the Switch and the PC. They all have their good points With the Xbox you know there will be a good selection of games, I've been playing the Castlevania series, Deadpool and Angry Birds on it, but I've also got Halo and various other things. You've not mentioned the switch but I will say with the switch it's a lot of fun and some games are super amazing but there are never as many games available as on Xbox/PS4. Having said that I'm currently playing Zelda BoTW on the Switch and would reccomend buying it just for that, my 5 year old loves 1-2 switch and Just dance so we have a good selection of party games too, which has been awesome when we've had birthday parties and bbq's. With the PC I can go mad modding my games on various sites, my favourite one to mod is Skyrim,.

    Anyway have fun choosing, hope the old Xbox doesn't give up too soon!
    • crossstitchamy
    • By crossstitchamy 12th Jun 18, 10:23 PM
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    love my PS4
    • IssaGame123
    • By IssaGame123 29th Jun 18, 1:19 AM
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    I used to love playing on the console but I think the moving to a Desktop Gaming PC was much better. Most games now are available for the PC. Playing with the keyboard and mouse at first was a bit challenging because I wasn't used to it, but I bought a games controller. Also I'm looking to get into VR and my system is more than capable of running the hardware.

    You should consider a gaming PC as an alternative.
    • bertiewhite
    • By bertiewhite 29th Jun 18, 8:15 AM
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    You should consider a gaming PC as an alternative.
    Originally posted by IssaGame123
    No thanks, been there, done that - I specifically want a console that I can have on the main TV so I'm not stuck at a desk away from the family.

    BTW - my Xbox 360 is still going ok, so I'm waiting until I move in a couple of months before I get my next console.
    • ErasmusOzzy
    • By ErasmusOzzy 3rd Jul 18, 1:12 PM
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    desktop is always the best, OK, I agree, it costs too much.
    but it is possible to use the desktop for multiple purposes
    • ducchung2108
    • By ducchung2108 14th Jul 18, 12:05 PM
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    I own xbox
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