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    • roopoo337
    • By roopoo337 15th Apr 18, 4:15 AM
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    Renting: will agents take us on?
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    • 15th Apr 18, 4:15 AM
    Renting: will agents take us on? 15th Apr 18 at 4:15 AM
    Hi guys

    My husband and I have been travelling, in and out of the country for the last couple of years. He is a musician, so we've been living hand to mouth. We are now looking to rent somewhere & get jobs, but I'm not sure if letting agents will take us on.
    We will initially apply for hb & jsa until we find jobs, so hiding from the no DSS rule is one problem. Even though we have money coming in, none of it's banked, so there's no proof of income. Another problem is that we haven't rented in so long, we don't have any landlord references we can use. However, we have some money in our accounts, so we can provide proof (and pay if needed) the first couple of months rent upfront, and my mum can act as a guarantor if needed.

    So, is this enough? How do we hide the fact we will initially be on HB, but have no other income?

    Thanks!
    Roo
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    • anselld
    • By anselld 15th Apr 18, 7:55 AM
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    You can't hide the facts. You will need to look for a L who is willing to take people on benefits. Probably more likely to find privately than via a letting agent.
    • roopoo337
    • By roopoo337 15th Apr 18, 7:58 AM
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    Actually, I just realised that at the point of renting we won't be on HB yet, as won't be able to claim til we have an address.
    Will that make a difference, or is it just employed vs unemployed?
    • anselld
    • By anselld 15th Apr 18, 8:46 AM
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    • 15th Apr 18, 8:46 AM
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    Actually, I just realised that at the point of renting we won't be on HB yet, as won't be able to claim til we have an address.
    Will that make a difference, or is it just employed vs unemployed?
    Originally posted by roopoo337
    It is both, but it doesn't matter how you try to dress it up you will fail referencing (at you own expense) through most agents who tend to use third party referencing companies.

    You will do better to find a private landlord willing to accept the facts as they stand.
    • Mojisola
    • By Mojisola 15th Apr 18, 9:52 AM
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    You will do better to find a private landlord willing to accept the facts as they stand.
    Originally posted by anselld
    Never having rented, how do you find a private LL?

    Small ads in the local paper or are there online sources?
    • marliepanda
    • By marliepanda 15th Apr 18, 10:05 AM
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    Never having rented, how do you find a private LL?

    Small ads in the local paper or are there online sources?
    Originally posted by Mojisola
    Gumtree, facebook, lots of sorting wheat from chaff
    • Techno_Mystic
    • By Techno_Mystic 15th Apr 18, 10:26 AM
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    • 15th Apr 18, 10:26 AM
    Gumtree, facebook, lots of sorting wheat from chaff
    Originally posted by marliepanda
    Looking in the windows of local newsagents, Post Offices, convenience stores and supermarket small ad boards always used to work for me, although I haven't done it in a long time.

    It has the advantage that the property will be in the vicinity of the advert.
    • pmlindyloo
    • By pmlindyloo 15th Apr 18, 10:30 AM
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    • 15th Apr 18, 10:30 AM
    Hi guys

    My husband and I have been travelling, in and out of the country for the last couple of years. He is a musician, so we've been living hand to mouth. We are now looking to rent somewhere & get jobs, but I'm not sure if letting agents will take us on.
    We will initially apply for hb & jsa until we find jobs, so hiding from the no DSS rule is one problem. Even though we have money coming in, none of it's banked, so there's no proof of income. Another problem is that we haven't rented in so long, we don't have any landlord references we can use. However, we have some money in our accounts, so we can provide proof (and pay if needed) the first couple of months rent upfront, and my mum can act as a guarantor if needed.

    So, is this enough? How do we hide the fact we will initially be on HB, but have no other income?

    Thanks!
    Roo
    Originally posted by roopoo337
    When did you return to the UK?

    You need to be habitually resident to claim JSA/HB so do google the rules about this. May not apply of course.

    The other thing is you say you have 'money coming in'. depending on what this is you may not be eligible for any benefits.
    • Techno_Mystic
    • By Techno_Mystic 15th Apr 18, 10:32 AM
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    • 15th Apr 18, 10:32 AM
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    • 15th Apr 18, 10:32 AM
    Some cities will have areas with a lot of cheap rented accommodation. For example, student areas, areas with large Victorian terraced houses that have become multiple occupation because they are too big for owner occupiers. You might have to share with others to start out with unfortunately.
    • KxMx
    • By KxMx 15th Apr 18, 11:19 AM
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    Your local Council Housing department is likely to have a list of benefit friendly landlords.
    • deannatrois
    • By deannatrois 15th Apr 18, 11:40 AM
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    Is there no way you can't find some sort of job? I assume you are living with parents. That is the biggest help you can give yourselves.Your mum can be a guarantor but I am sure you can appreciate that won't help if you have no income as you don't seem to right now.

    No you can't hide the fact that you are on benefits. You will always be asked for proof of income. A couple of months of rent up front isn't enough. There are some areas who are used to people on benefits but obviously these won't be 'good' areas but may be what you will have to accept. It might also be worth looking at renting a room to start with to build up a record of paying rent.

    It depends on how long you have been out of the country but even getting benefits can be difficult after a couple of years of not being resident, it might be worth going to a citizens advice to ask about this.

    But I think getting a job is the first step really. If you managed to travel and keep yourself going, surely you can manage to get a mundane job. Music can be something you do in your free time surely? Sorry to be a philistine but one has to be practical if one wants to get a life going. I know when I was younger I did anything I could get to keep money coming in, and that was in times that were considered depressed and I didn't have a CV worth mentioning. I just trawled the streets for any job I could find, be it bar work, cleaning or waitressing. I once packed dressings into bags lol.
    Last edited by deannatrois; 15-04-2018 at 11:44 AM.
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