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    • Solarshel
    • By Solarshel 13th Apr 18, 7:49 PM
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    Opinions on Solar setup and cost
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    • 13th Apr 18, 7:49 PM
    Opinions on Solar setup and cost 13th Apr 18 at 7:49 PM
    Hi there,

    After reading plenty of articles I have decided to take the plunge and buy a Solar PV setup.

    After almost getting conned out of 9500, I have managed to find a different company which will install the following for 4500.

    14 Eternity 8.33 Solar Panel Modules
    Solax Inverter X1

    My question is do any of you have this setup and is it worth the money?
    I have manufacturers warranty for 25 years on the panels and Inverter, and am covered for the installation by the company's insurance, so it all seems legit.
    It will all be getting installed on a south facing roof and they have projected the following returns once installed: 3483.3 kwh

    I'm just after some peace of mind before me and my partner commit.

    Thank you in advance!
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    • Coastalwatch
    • By Coastalwatch 13th Apr 18, 9:53 PM
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    • 13th Apr 18, 9:53 PM
    Hi Solarshel, I'm no expert but having gone through a similar process to yourself recently your latest figures seems to be in the right area. Looks like you had a close shave with the earlier quotaion so well done for avoiding that. It's great you have a south facing roof on which to place them and judging from your inverter there are no issues with shade(from other buildings, trees or chimneys etc) upon the panels at any time of the day! If you have, it may be worth considering a SolarEdge inverter which maximises output, but would involve a greater investment, although then enable to you monitor each panels output in real time. I'm sure others will add their more qualified thoughts than I've applied here but I don't think you are far away from a very reasonable deal, providing there are no other hidden costs/conditions involved.
    • Solarshel
    • By Solarshel 13th Apr 18, 10:21 PM
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    • 13th Apr 18, 10:21 PM
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    • 13th Apr 18, 10:21 PM
    The company that gave us the original quote actually reduced their quote by 2000 once I called them to cancel the installation. Their salesman tried to sell me a deal through another company, and asked me to keep it quiet from the original company. It all seemed a little too shady.
    I feel better with the new price, but I can't find many reviews of the solar panels or inverter.
    We don't have any shaded spots on our roof, and the quotation states everything (including the scaffolding, installation, epc rating) is thrown in for 4500.
    • Martyn1981
    • By Martyn1981 14th Apr 18, 7:54 AM
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    • 14th Apr 18, 7:54 AM
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    • 14th Apr 18, 7:54 AM
    The company that gave us the original quote actually reduced their quote by 2000 once I called them to cancel the installation. Their salesman tried to sell me a deal through another company, and asked me to keep it quiet from the original company. It all seemed a little too shady.
    I feel better with the new price, but I can't find many reviews of the solar panels or inverter.
    We don't have any shaded spots on our roof, and the quotation states everything (including the scaffolding, installation, epc rating) is thrown in for 4500.
    Originally posted by Solarshel
    Hiya. I agree with CW, sounds like a good deal. You haven't mentioned the size, but I assume it's about 4kWp, perhaps the panels are about 285Wp each or so?

    I doubt you will get many comments on the panels, lots of people ask for advice, but there are so many panels, we have lots of different ones, and ultimately, we won't know how good they are till about 20yrs in, so it's really tricky. But I don't think they've attracted any negative comments on here, not sure.

    Inverter wise, I think the Solax is one of the cheaper models but has good efficiency. What length of warranty does it have, hopefully 10yrs, and can you pay a small premium to lengthen the manufacturers warranty?

    If you are shading free then Solaredge probably isn't for you. I have it on all my panels, but I do have shading issues.

    One other question, will the 14 panels max out your roof space, if not, then consider going a bit bigger, perhaps 5kWp.

    There is a lot of info on CW's thread which might be worth a read for you, and possibly the FAQ's (see my signature) for basics.

    "Looking for a PV and EV solution"

    But again, good price, and well done for avoiding the cowboys ..... 9,500 ..... ahhhh don't get me started .... too late!
    Mart. Cardiff. 5.58 kWp PV systems (3.58 ESE & 2.0 WNW)

    For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.
    • Solarshel
    • By Solarshel 14th Apr 18, 8:46 AM
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    • 14th Apr 18, 8:46 AM
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    • 14th Apr 18, 8:46 AM
    Hi Martyn,

    The system will be 4kwp and that is the maximum we can fit on the south facing roof.
    The panels come with a 20 year manufacturers warranty, and a 25 year performance warranty, and the inverter comes with a 20 year manufacturers warranty.

    Feeling a lot better about it all already just from the 2 responses we've had.

    Time to order those credit cards I think!
    • NigeWick
    • By NigeWick 14th Apr 18, 11:25 AM
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    • 14th Apr 18, 11:25 AM
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    • 14th Apr 18, 11:25 AM
    It will all be getting installed on a south facing roof and they have projected the following returns once installed: 3483.3 kwh
    Originally posted by Solarshel
    That's very precise! I live in south Lincolnshire and was quoted about 3,500kWh per year by three sales people for my 4kW system. I'm getting a good 4,000 kWh. I presume it's because I'm in the same "sunshine" band as Wales.....
    The mind of the bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract.
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    • Wobblydeb
    • By Wobblydeb 20th Apr 18, 3:36 PM
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    • 20th Apr 18, 3:36 PM
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    • 20th Apr 18, 3:36 PM
    That price doesn't look bad. We recently paid just over 5k for a 4.8kWp system with the same inverter (X1 Boost 3.6kW) with only a 10 year warranty.

    Not wanting to worry you, but we have been having some minor (firmware) issues with the inverter, and are waiting for either an update or a replacement at present.
    I've got a plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel.
    • Solarshel
    • By Solarshel 20th Apr 18, 3:44 PM
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    • 20th Apr 18, 3:44 PM
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    • 20th Apr 18, 3:44 PM
    The company came out yesterday to install everything but when the panels got delivered they were Perlights rather than 8.33, so I said I wanted what was quoted as they have a greater warranty.
    They did install the inverter though and I'm all synced up. I'm just not generating any power which is annoying with this ridiculously hot weather were having.

    Thanks for the heads up on the firmware. Fingers crossed it's an easy fix for you.
    • pinnks
    • By pinnks 20th Apr 18, 8:05 PM
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    You'll be up and running soon but just to note, hot days are not your best friend as the panels lose some efficiency when they are too hot. Best is good sun but not blasting hot. Sometimes days with small isolated clouds blowing through are as good as pure blue sky days as the panels cool a little.
    Wiltshire - 5.25kWp
    3.5kWp: 14 x Phono Solar 250 Onyx, Sunny Boy 4000TL, WSW 40 degrees, June 2013
    1.75kWp: 7 x Phono Solar 250 Onyx, Sunny Boy 1600TL, SSE 45 degrees, March 2014
    • jamesrst
    • By jamesrst 21st Apr 18, 2:15 PM
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    That price doesn't look bad. We recently paid just over 5k for a 4.8kWp system with the same inverter (X1 Boost 3.6kW) with only a 10 year warranty.

    Not wanting to worry you, but we have been having some minor (firmware) issues with the inverter, and are waiting for either an update or a replacement at present.
    Originally posted by Wobblydeb
    by any chance did wersolaruk fit it. i have the same invertor x1 boost whats the problem with it mine sometimes plays up it decides to turn it self off half way through the day and just says waiting until it gets dark then resets it self i have been told might be overvoltage protection the highest i have seen it in the log is 150v whats the problem with yours
    • Wobblydeb
    • By Wobblydeb 21st Apr 18, 9:57 PM
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    by any chance did wersolaruk fit it. i have the same invertor x1 boost whats the problem with it mine sometimes plays up it decides to turn it self off half way through the day and just says waiting until it gets dark then resets it self i have been told might be overvoltage protection the highest i have seen it in the log is 150v whats the problem with yours
    Originally posted by jamesrst
    No, wersolaruk did not fit it. Ours is turning off part way through the day and just says "Waiting" too. Our installer is speaking to Solax about it (something to do with a firmware issue) and hopefully will get it sorted soon.
    I've got a plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel.
    • jamesrst
    • By jamesrst 22nd Apr 18, 12:33 PM
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    No, wersolaruk did not fit it. Ours is turning off part way through the day and just says "Waiting" too. Our installer is speaking to Solax about it (something to do with a firmware issue) and hopefully will get it sorted soon.
    Originally posted by Wobblydeb
    mine doesn't do it too oftern maybe 5 times in the last to months hopefully will get it sorted my installer are finding out if the high voltage limit can be turned up just incase so I have seen on the log it hit 151 volt once, I have seen on anther post you just rest it as soon as you find out how do you rest it I have no idea as I cant see an isolation switch on the solar panel wiring side to the invertor and I don't think I should pull the 4 plugs out 2 positive and negatives their is and on and off switch on the invertor but its different to other images I have seen its about the size of 2p and a line in the middle I have tried with a screw driver but started to damage the plastic so stopped, so how to you rest yours thanks
    • INeedLuck
    • By INeedLuck 22nd Apr 18, 2:44 PM
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    Hi SolarShel, would you mind sharing which company you have gone with and where abouts you're based? I'm in Greater Manchester and have been looking at Ikea panels after having a company come out to quote who seemed very dodgy and were very very very pushy!
    • Wobblydeb
    • By Wobblydeb 22nd Apr 18, 9:54 PM
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    so how to you rest yours thanks
    Originally posted by jamesrst
    We have the isolation switches next to the inverter (they're big red and black circular dial type switches, very hard to miss!). I simply switch them all off (AC first, then DC) wait a while and then turn them back on.
    I've got a plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel.
    • Solarshel
    • By Solarshel 22nd Apr 18, 10:06 PM
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    I went with a company called the Solar Installation Company who are based near Preston I think. They had a sale on which lasts throughout April. From what I can see I wouldn't bother going with Ikea panels as it will take forever and a day to recoup your investment, and you still have to pay someone yo install them after you have bought them.
    The company I had my original quote from weren't overly pushy but they did try a lot of sketchy sales tactics which I was wise to but indulged them a bit.
    • annet01
    • By annet01 23rd Apr 18, 3:00 PM
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    Never again!
    Solar power is great until something goes wrong. Our supplier went into liquidation as we discovered when our system stopped working. The company that took them over tried to fob us off with nonsense. We have contacted Hies but they say it's not their problem (the "insurance" says it is but they insist it isn't). We contacted the DNO (as suggested on here) but it's not their problem either. The only company that would even consider coming out will charge a call out fee of 1000 PLUS any work that needs doing.
    So now we have a solar panel system sitting on the roof which doesn't work and all any "professional" can suggest is installing a complete new system!. I'd NEVER invest in solar panels again.
    • jamesrst
    • By jamesrst 23rd Apr 18, 5:26 PM
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    We have the isolation switches next to the inverter (they're big red and black circular dial type switches, very hard to miss!). I simply switch them all off (AC first, then DC) wait a while and then turn them back on.
    Originally posted by Wobblydeb
    thanks but mine doesnt have an ac what i can see anyway hopefully sorted now after giving solax my serial number they say it needed the firmware updated like you said so they gave me the links and had to put it on usb stick and updated it
    • Martyn1981
    • By Martyn1981 23rd Apr 18, 5:46 PM
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    thanks but mine doesnt have an ac what i can see anyway hopefully sorted now after giving solax my serial number they say it needed the firmware updated like you said so they gave me the links and had to put it on usb stick and updated it
    Originally posted by jamesrst
    That's weird, it doesn't have an AC isolation switch?

    You could switch it off at the consumer unit.
    Mart. Cardiff. 5.58 kWp PV systems (3.58 ESE & 2.0 WNW)

    For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.
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