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    • Jack Itin
    • By Jack Itin 12th Apr 18, 2:17 PM
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    Confusion Over Pension
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    • 12th Apr 18, 2:17 PM
    Confusion Over Pension 12th Apr 18 at 2:17 PM
    O.k....The other day I received my Old Age pension notification letter, giving a figure of 147.81 per week.....the government website says that I will get 152.51 per week.....which is correct ??....the gov. website also says that my NI contribution record for 2017/18 is not available yet.....I have over 40 years of contributions.......any clarification welcome....
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    • Tom99
    • By Tom99 13th Apr 18, 7:59 AM
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    Yes, it will be. Will you actually need it?

    And, if you need any more, you could pay class 3 for 2015/16 (although it sounds as if you won't need to).
    Originally posted by greenglide
    I don't think 2015/16 would count even if needed as the OP already has 40 yrs NI
    • greenglide
    • By greenglide 13th Apr 18, 9:57 AM
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    Doh. 2015/16 would get nothing as you say, 2016/17 could if the maximum nSP had not already been reached.
    • margaretclare
    • By margaretclare 13th Apr 18, 10:02 AM
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    No ......my Mrs. gets 200 fuel allowance, I assume that we both would not get it.......
    Originally posted by Jack Itin
    You get half each.
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    • Jack Itin
    • By Jack Itin 13th Apr 18, 1:58 PM
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    O.k....I have just checked the Gov. website again, and it says in bold letters "YOU NEED TO CONTRIBUTE N.I. TO REACH YOUR FORECAST"....why does it say this if they know that I have over forty years of contributions ?....is there something that I am missing ?......am I doing right by ignoring this ?.......
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    • greenglide
    • By greenglide 13th Apr 18, 2:52 PM
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    What does the forecast actually say?

    If you just need the contributions from the final year, 2017-18, then that will be OK.

    You said that your SP award was around 147 or so? To get above that requires the 2017/18 contributions for which the autocredits may not be available yet.
    • Jack Itin
    • By Jack Itin 13th Apr 18, 3:00 PM
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    The letter dated 20 March says I will get 147.81 per week....but does say that this may change "due to changes in circumstances or uprating"......the Gov. website says my forecast is 152.51 per week...as someone has pointed out this may be due to the 3% rise....but then says that I need to contribute to reach that forecast....the letter also states that "we need to make further inquiries into your NI record"....and "we may need to write to you to tell you if the amount has changed".......
    Last edited by Jack Itin; 13-04-2018 at 3:03 PM.
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    • Tom99
    • By Tom99 13th Apr 18, 3:30 PM
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    O.k....I have just checked the Gov. website again, and it says in bold letters "YOU NEED TO CONTRIBUTE N.I. TO REACH YOUR FORECAST"....why does it say this if they know that I have over forty years of contributions ?....is there something that I am missing ?......am I doing right by ignoring this ?.......
    Originally posted by Jack Itin
    Its not the 40 yrs, you will get a credit for 2017/18 but they would like to con you into paying 741 for 2017/18 to see if they can get away with it!
    • Jack Itin
    • By Jack Itin 13th Apr 18, 4:05 PM
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    Yes, it certainly looks that way....I guess it's just a waiting game now, to see when, or if, I get that credit for 2017/18.....
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    • greenglide
    • By greenglide 13th Apr 18, 4:51 PM
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    but then says that I need to contribute to reach that forecast....the letter also states that "we need to make further inquiries into your NI record"....and "we may need to write to you to tell you if the amount has changed".....
    So when the 2017/18 contributions data is available this should increase your award that currently sits at 147.81.

    Unless they have done something very stupid the 147.81 figure will include the uprating from April. Using 2017/18 rates for an award that starts in 2018/19 makes absolutely no sense and the IT wouldnt have allowed them to in the past. It is, of course, possible that they may have enhanced it to give out incorrect information!
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