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    • IvanS
    • By IvanS 12th Apr 18, 1:38 PM
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    Finding a Willing & Able Mechanic
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    • 12th Apr 18, 1:38 PM
    Finding a Willing & Able Mechanic 12th Apr 18 at 1:38 PM
    I recently purchased a 2003 Kia Sedona 2.9D with 80,000 recorded miles.
    I am enjoying bringing it up to scratch using my own hands, but of course as all relatively modern vehicles are manufactured far too complex there is a limit to what one can achieve without owning manufacturer's software.
    The job I currently need doing is to fit my brand new fuel injectors and programme them to the car's computer.
    It would be a bonus if the mechanic could also give the common fuel rail a good clean out.
    I have already changed the fuel pump, fuel filter, and cam belt kit.
    I wonder if there is any U.K. mechanic (preferably not charging main dealer rates) willing and able to do this work for me? My extensive search of mid-Wales garages has drawn a blank.
    I am not looking for the work to cure a fault, simply be correctly undertaken.
    In principle I c an deliver my car at 8 a.m. to any U.K. location on the understanding that the work is carried out the same day.
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    • wgl2014
    • By wgl2014 12th Apr 18, 3:37 PM
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    • 12th Apr 18, 3:37 PM
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    • 12th Apr 18, 3:37 PM
    I would suggest joining a dedicated Kia forum and asking on there. You may even find someone who has the relevant computer gubbins to do the necessary.
    • atrixblue.-MFR-.
    • By atrixblue.-MFR-. 12th Apr 18, 5:14 PM
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    • 12th Apr 18, 5:14 PM
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    • 12th Apr 18, 5:14 PM
    I recently purchased a 2003 Kia Sedona 2.9D with 80,000 recorded miles.
    I am enjoying bringing it up to scratch using my own hands, but of course as all relatively modern vehicles are manufactured far too complex there is a limit to what one can achieve without owning manufacturer's software.
    The job I currently need doing is to fit my brand new fuel injectors and programme them to the car's computer.
    It would be a bonus if the mechanic could also give the common fuel rail a good clean out.
    I have already changed the fuel pump, fuel filter, and cam belt kit.
    I wonder if there is any U.K. mechanic (preferably not charging main dealer rates) willing and able to do this work for me? My extensive search of mid-Wales garages has drawn a blank.
    I am not looking for the work to cure a fault, simply be correctly undertaken.
    In principle I c an deliver my car at 8 a.m. to any U.K. location on the understanding that the work is carried out the same day.
    Originally posted by IvanS
    http://clwydinjectionservices.boschauto.co.uk/ someone like these maybe a more suited solution to your problem. Unfortunately i dont think any mechinic would constrain themselves to a day on this job, theres many many unforseen problems that can and do come up that mechanics cannot forsee that means the job could take longer than a day.


    i would aslo second the above and say that joining a dedicated forum would be a good point to start.

    • arcon5
    • By arcon5 12th Apr 18, 6:47 PM
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    • 12th Apr 18, 6:47 PM
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    • 12th Apr 18, 6:47 PM
    Longer than a day? On injectors... I don't think so
    • Joe Horner
    • By Joe Horner 12th Apr 18, 7:37 PM
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    • 12th Apr 18, 7:37 PM
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    • 12th Apr 18, 7:37 PM
    Longer than a day? On injectors... I don't think so
    Originally posted by arcon5
    Not if everything goes to plan, but it only needs one stuck in the head and you're potentially into major dismantling. Don't know if that engine's prone to it but a lot of diesels are.
    • s b
    • By s b 12th Apr 18, 8:38 PM
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    • 12th Apr 18, 8:38 PM
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    • 12th Apr 18, 8:38 PM
    i rather sit at home and eat my toenails if i were a mechanic and offered this job
    • n217970
    • By n217970 13th Apr 18, 8:19 AM
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    • 13th Apr 18, 8:19 AM
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    • 13th Apr 18, 8:19 AM
    Respectfully, if you are not looking to cure a fault why on earth are you swapping the injectors on a 15 year old Kia?

    If you do have some issues with the injectors I would run a tin of 'liqui moly diesel purge' through the engine before I started messing about changing the injectors. Unlike redex and the like you run the engine neat on it by placing the feed and return fuel lines straight in the tin. Its a very cheap first thing to start with.

    I ran it through my high mileage but long commuting Euro 3 a few weeks ago and it does seem much improved but I suspect much of that improvement has come from fitting a new filter at the same time. Engine is noticeably quieter now though.

    But I ran it through the wife's low mileage/short commute Euro 5 the other night - the smoke coming out the back was somewhat alarming but it has fixed some cold start issues - performance wise I can't report as have not taken it out yet.
    • IvanS
    • By IvanS 15th Apr 18, 9:32 AM
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    • 15th Apr 18, 9:32 AM
    Finding a Willing & Able Mechanic
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    • 15th Apr 18, 9:32 AM
    Atrixblue-M thanks for taking the time to provide such a promising looking link. I write to that company asking if it would take on the work but it failed to reply.

    Perhaps it is like the other co. I approached ((PF Jones Diesel Services) who wrote back advising that they test and supply parts but do not repair vehicles?
    • IvanS
    • By IvanS 15th Apr 18, 9:53 AM
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    • 15th Apr 18, 9:53 AM
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    • 15th Apr 18, 9:53 AM
    n217970

    Thanks for your advice which I have already unsuccessfully tried.

    OF COURSE I am attempting to fix a fault! But, ask any garage to cure a fault and they generally are not interested. All one can hope for is that they will do the job provided that there is no comeback..

    As sb so eloquently stated mechanics these days are not interested.

    Mechanics on today's modern cars fully embraces electronic technology - technology which U.K. mechanics largely don't understand and largely don't have dedicated software to interpret even if they did understand. In essence they are not mechanics, simply parts fitters.

    My main dealership did electronic testing; simply accepted the results without carrying out hands on single component testing ; and then supplied several parts which failed to cure the fault.

    One garage I approached said that customers are regularly scrapping eight year old vehicles because no-one is either willing to repair them, or because the electronic parts are too expensive.

    Two mechanics I met run vintage vehicles as they can't be doing with unnecessary electronics nonsense in their personal vehicles, and several other mechanics I met declared modern vehicles to be 'rubbish.' A view which I endorse.

    It's a massive quasi-fraud run by the motor manufacturing industry. Regularly change your vehicles, make our servicing work easy, and the parts we sell contain vast profits.
    • onomatopoeia99
    • By onomatopoeia99 15th Apr 18, 10:38 AM
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    Do you want to fix a fault or not? Your opening post states you do not, post 9 on this topic states that of course you do. It's confusing, at least to me.

    My daily driver is three years older than yours, but still new enough to have full engine management and all the electronics, and I don't have any problem the the garage I use being unwilling to fix it, though to be fair it's been very reliable. Though it's 18 years old I do not forsee any problems either keeping it running or finding parts to do so, the garage works on cars or the same marque far older (and newer) than mine.

    An auto electrician should be able to program injectors to the ECU if you fit them, ring some and ask them, they will usually come out with all their equipment as well. Given all the other replacement jobs you've done, replacing the injectors should be straightforward.
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    • spiro
    • By spiro 15th Apr 18, 4:50 PM
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    Car mechanics may be like of like lots of plumers/electricians, they won't take on part of a job because it can leave them open to all sorts of arguements like; it's your fault, no its your fault there is a problem.
    IT Consultant in the utilities industry specialising in the retail electricity market.

    4 Credit Card and 1 Loan PPI claims settled for 26k, 1 rejected (Opus).
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