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    • fluke13
    • By fluke13 12th Apr 18, 1:10 PM
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    Pip 3033
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    Pip 3033 12th Apr 18 at 1:10 PM
    I have had paperwork today asking for exact dates on 2 of the descriptores that i said have become harder. On the AR1 form i stated month and year but this PIP 3033 form is asking for exact dates. I can't remember the exact date. What am i meant to put?
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    • poppy12345
    • By poppy12345 12th Apr 18, 1:25 PM
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    I have had paperwork today asking for exact dates on 2 of the descriptores that i said have become harder. On the AR1 form i stated month and year but this PIP 3033 form is asking for exact dates. I can't remember the exact date. What am i meant to put?
    Originally posted by fluke13
    I have no idea how they expect anyone to remember the exact date! I would just put the month/year and explain that you can't remember the exact date. That's ridiculous in my opinion. I thought you said they rang you asking you this very question?
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    I have no idea how they expect anyone to remember the exact date! I would just put the month/year and explain that you can't remember the exact date. That's ridiculous in my opinion. I thought you said they rang you asking you this very question?
    Originally posted by poppy12345


    I missed their call Tuesday so rang them yesterday and they said they had sent this letter out already. They then rang back 5 minutes later explaining that they needed to confirm the dates, so i gave them the month/year and that was that. Then today letter arrives (unusually fast considering it was only sent out Tuesday) asking for exact dates.
    • Alice Holt
    • By Alice Holt 12th Apr 18, 1:40 PM
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    Why not give them the as a date the first day of the month?
    • fluke13
    • By fluke13 12th Apr 18, 1:49 PM
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    Why not give them the as a date the first day of the month?
    Originally posted by Alice Holt


    I think ill just put a date and put approximatly after it. They havent asked for the exact date on the descriptor that i had put had got easier!! This whole process drives me abit mad.
    • poppy12345
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    I think ill just put a date and put approximatly after it. They havent asked for the exact date on the descriptor that i had put had got easier!! This whole process drives me abit mad.
    Originally posted by fluke13
    That's most likely why they want to know the date because if you're not awarded then you may have an over payment, from the date it got easier.
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    • By fluke13 12th Apr 18, 1:56 PM
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    That's most likely why they want to know the date because if you're not awarded then you may have an over payment, from the date it got easier.
    Originally posted by poppy12345


    I didn't get any points last time for this descriptor but i thought i should tell them that it had got easier anyway. So can't see that it would inccur an overpayment.
    • Danday
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    I didn't get any points last time for this descriptor but i thought i should tell them that it had got easier anyway. So can't see that it would inccur an overpayment.
    Originally posted by fluke13
    That seems logical but unfortunately the DWP are anything but logical in their outlook and decision making.

    It has happened to me when I put my review form in. I put no change apart from one item that was causing more of a difficulty. I, like you, put the approx. date and year. Thinking that it would not make any difference as I was already on enhanced for both Care & Mobility I didn't worry.
    I had to have a face to face assessment with the resulting decision of the loss of both enhanced rates.
    That's DWP logic!
    • Tommo1980
    • By Tommo1980 12th Apr 18, 3:28 PM
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    That seems logical but unfortunately the DWP are anything but logical in their outlook and decision making.

    It has happened to me when I put my review form in. I put no change apart from one item that was causing more of a difficulty. I, like you, put the approx. date and year. Thinking that it would not make any difference as I was already on enhanced for both Care & Mobility I didn't worry.
    I had to have a face to face assessment with the resulting decision of the loss of both enhanced rates.
    That's DWP logic!
    Originally posted by Danday
    Seeing as we have already established you are fraudulently claiming I would say the DWP got it spot on in your case.

    It's only logical, captain cockwash.
    • NeilCr
    • By NeilCr 12th Apr 18, 4:20 PM
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    "I think newcomers to this forum need to bear in mind that this is a public site on which anyone can post. You can't assume information is trustworthy, indeed some posters are known to disrupt, post disinformation, and tell tall stories.

    I would caution newcomers to be wary of any advice supplied that doesn't contain a link to an authoritative site. Such sites include adviceguide, entitled to, turn2us, revenuebenefits.
    Accredited benefit advice is available from local advice agencies such as Citizens Advice.

    Please don't take horror stories about benefit assessments, appeals etc at face value. There are posters on here who whose aim seems to be to alarm, frighten, and generally dissuade OP's from pursuing sensible actions to claim / regain the right benefits.

    Harmful and misleading posters are easily identified by the reaction to their posts
    • Danday
    • By Danday 12th Apr 18, 5:21 PM
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    Seeing as we have already established you are fraudulently claiming I would say the DWP got it spot on in your case.

    It's only logical, captain cockwash.
    Originally posted by Tommo1980
    Uummm that is your interpretation.
    There is no need to steer this thread away from what it is. I posted my experience of claiming a change for the worse which eventually led to a reduction in the previous award. It happens to many and is simply a warning to the OP that illogical decisions are made by the DWP.
    • Tommo1980
    • By Tommo1980 12th Apr 18, 5:33 PM
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    I think it's called Karma in your case.
    • pmlindyloo
    • By pmlindyloo 12th Apr 18, 5:35 PM
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    I have had paperwork today asking for exact dates on 2 of the descriptores that i said have become harder. On the AR1 form i stated month and year but this PIP 3033 form is asking for exact dates. I can't remember the exact date. What am i meant to put?
    Originally posted by fluke13
    It might give us a clue if we knew which descriptors which you say have got harder.
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