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    • Penny027
    • By Penny027 11th Apr 18, 11:15 AM
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    No spaces available
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    • 11th Apr 18, 11:15 AM
    No spaces available 11th Apr 18 at 11:15 AM
    I tried to park in a hospital car park. There is a barrier at the entrance, you take a ticket and the barrier opens.
    When I got into the car park I realised, after driving around the entire car park, that there were no spaces available. The car park had also become grid locked with all the cars also looking for spaces.
    I found a location that did not block other vehicles on the end of a line of spaces and parked there. I had an important appointment to attend in relation to my son and had run out of time and could not easily exit the car park due to the number of cars stuck.
    My argument is that the car park should not have been allowing cars into the car park when spaces were not available. I could not get out of the car park without paying, so they were effectively making a contract with me to provide parking and were then not fulfilling their side of the bargain.
    I have received a fine of 100, reduced to 60 if payed within 14 days.
    I am inclined to dispute this, what do you think?
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    • The Deep
    • By The Deep 11th Apr 18, 11:19 AM
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    • 11th Apr 18, 11:19 AM
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    • 11th Apr 18, 11:19 AM
    Read this

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/nhs-patient-visitor-and-staff-car-parking-principles/nhs-patient-visitor-and-staff-car-parking-principles

    and complain to PALS.

    It is not a fine, but an invoice for an alleged breach of contract.

    This is an entirely unregulated industry which is scamming the public with inflated claims for minor breaches of contracts for alleged parking offences, aided and abetted by a handful of low-rent solicitors.

    Parking Eye, CPM, Smart, and another company have already been named and shamed, as has Gladstones Solicitors, and BW Legal, (these two law firms take hundreds of these cases to court each year). They lose most of them, and have been reported to the regulatory authority by an M.P. for unprofessional conduct

    Hospital car parks and residential complex tickets have been especially mentioned.

    The problem has become so rampant that MPs have agreed to enact a Bill to regulate these scammers. Watch the video of the Second Reading in the HofC recently.

    http://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/2f0384f2-eba5-4fff-ab07-cf24b6a22918?in=12:49:41

    and complain in the most robust terms to your MP. With a fair wind they will be out of business by Christmas.
    Last edited by The Deep; 11-04-2018 at 11:24 AM.
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    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 11th Apr 18, 11:39 AM
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    • 11th Apr 18, 11:39 AM
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    • 11th Apr 18, 11:39 AM
    I have received a fine of 100, reduced to 60 if payed within 14 days.
    You haven't 'received a fine'. No parking company can 'fine' you. You do not have to pay this unless ordered to do so in the county court by a Judge.

    Yes, you should very much dispute it. How to do so is detailed in the NEWBIES FAQ sticky, post #1, which includes a ready made appeal for you to copy and paste. Read the sticky post carefully and thoroughly so you fully understand the game you are now caught up in.

    Also take The Deep's advice and contact PALS at the hospital and ask that they assist you in getting this charge cancelled.

    Do not ignore the charge - it needs action by you.

    Which parking company issued this?
    We cannot provide you with a silver bullet to get you out of this. You have to be in for the long run, and need to involve yourself in research and work for you to get rid of this. It is not simple. We will help, but can't do it for you.

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    • Penny027
    • By Penny027 11th Apr 18, 2:57 PM
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    • 11th Apr 18, 2:57 PM
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    • 11th Apr 18, 2:57 PM
    T6hanks for your responses - the issuing company is UKPC (UK Parking control Ltd)
    • Fruitcake
    • By Fruitcake 11th Apr 18, 3:11 PM
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    • 11th Apr 18, 3:11 PM
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    • 11th Apr 18, 3:11 PM
    T6hanks for your responses - the issuing company is UKPC (UK Parking control Ltd)
    Originally posted by Penny027
    BPA member, so it's worth getting photos of the entrance, and signs around the car park for your PoPLA appeal.

    You really must also complain robustly to PALs as well as your MP and Sir Greg Knight MP. This is the only way to stop this unregulated scam so it is vitally important that every poster contacts their MP.
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    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 14th Apr 18, 1:56 AM
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    • 14th Apr 18, 1:56 AM
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    • 14th Apr 18, 1:56 AM
    Thanks for your responses - the issuing company is UKPC (UK Parking control Ltd)
    Originally posted by Penny027
    No-one here pays them, but do not ignore them unless you are in Scotland! Was it a postal PCN, if so, for how many minutes was he car onsite?
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • peter_the_piper
    • By peter_the_piper 14th Apr 18, 9:11 AM
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    • 14th Apr 18, 9:11 AM
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    • 14th Apr 18, 9:11 AM
    Don't these gated entrances have a builtin system that only allows you in if space available, (ours does)?If so then the system was at fault and you did not get what you paid for.
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    • The Deep
    • By The Deep 14th Apr 18, 9:22 AM
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    • 14th Apr 18, 9:22 AM
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    • 14th Apr 18, 9:22 AM
    Read about how UKPC treats its customers here.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11858473/Parking-firm-UKPC-admits-faking-tickets-to-fine-drivers.html
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
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