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    • Heedtheadvice
    • By Heedtheadvice 10th Apr 18, 6:15 PM
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    win 7 availability?
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    • 10th Apr 18, 6:15 PM
    win 7 availability? 10th Apr 18 at 6:15 PM
    Searching the forum I can only find old posts.
    Can anyone say if a kosher win 7 is still available, install disk/image etc? This is for some elderly PCs that most likely would not do well with win 10.

    I know old hat, limited support time....no idea if licence keys are held......but that is what I have been asked and do not know the answer!!
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    • Neil Jones
    • By Neil Jones 10th Apr 18, 6:29 PM
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    • 10th Apr 18, 6:29 PM
    The install disks are still available download from Microsoft:
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows7

    The licences on the other hand, there are a few floating around on eBay relatively cheaply (these tend to be old VLK keys)
    • Heedtheadvice
    • By Heedtheadvice 10th Apr 18, 7:12 PM
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    • 10th Apr 18, 7:12 PM
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    • 10th Apr 18, 7:12 PM
    Thanks Neil.

    ...I bet the licence key will be the big issue but will pass on the info.
    • Xbigman
    • By Xbigman 10th Apr 18, 11:57 PM
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    I bought one last week (die W10, die). Make sure it is from Amazon or fulfilled by Amazon and you should be ok.

    www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B012R0GTDM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


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    • EveryWhere
    • By EveryWhere 12th Apr 18, 5:39 PM
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    • 12th Apr 18, 5:39 PM
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    • 12th Apr 18, 5:39 PM
    Thanks Neil.

    ...I bet the licence key will be the big issue but will pass on the info.
    Originally posted by Heedtheadvice
    Are these brand named machines? If so, which models?
    • LHW99
    • By LHW99 12th Apr 18, 7:57 PM
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    • 12th Apr 18, 7:57 PM
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    • 12th Apr 18, 7:57 PM
    Note that you need the HDD to be NTFS format, or WIN7 will not install.
    • Neil Jones
    • By Neil Jones 12th Apr 18, 8:08 PM
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    • 12th Apr 18, 8:08 PM
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    • 12th Apr 18, 8:08 PM
    Note that you need the HDD to be NTFS format, or WIN7 will not install.
    Originally posted by LHW99
    You can do this from the setup screens in Windows 7 installation, you don't need to do this beforehand.

    And installing on FAT32 drives hasn't been possible since Vista came out in 2006.
    • Heedtheadvice
    • By Heedtheadvice 13th Apr 18, 9:52 AM
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    • 13th Apr 18, 9:52 AM
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    • 13th Apr 18, 9:52 AM
    I think they will be (but do not know), Everywhere, as they are surplus machines from an organisation that has updated it's hardware, I understand. Most likely Dell or HP.
    • LeeUK
    • By LeeUK 13th Apr 18, 12:26 PM
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    • 13th Apr 18, 12:26 PM
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    • 13th Apr 18, 12:26 PM
    Just Google Windows 7 ISO - plenty of places to download it. (for example https://softlay.net/operating-system/windows-7-all-in-one-iso-free-download-32-64-bit.html)

    Then just buy a cheap key off eBay for a few pounds and you are sorted.

    Windows 7 still receives updates from Microsoft until 2020.
    • Xbigman
    • By Xbigman 13th Apr 18, 3:57 PM
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    Updates stopping doesn't stop an operating system from working. If you look at some of the old Optiplex systems for sale (as refurbished) some come with XP and work just fine.

    W7 going out of support is not the issue for me. Its when Google stops supporting Chrome for W7 and I get blocked from online banking/Amazon etc. This happened to me with Vista, which I used happily on this computer for about 8 years. Now Vista wasn't a popular OS but W7 is still in widespread use. I'm hoping for Browser support for longer than 2020. Fingers crossed.



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    • LeeUK
    • By LeeUK 13th Apr 18, 11:31 PM
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    Updates stopping doesn't stop an operating system from working. If you look at some of the old Optiplex systems for sale (as refurbished) some come with XP and work just fine.

    W7 going out of support is not the issue for me. Its when Google stops supporting Chrome for W7 and I get blocked from online banking/Amazon etc. This happened to me with Vista, which I used happily on this computer for about 8 years. Now Vista wasn't a popular OS but W7 is still in widespread use. I'm hoping for Browser support for longer than 2020. Fingers crossed.



    Darren
    Originally posted by Xbigman
    I never said you can't use Windows 7 beyond 2020. Also Opera browser (which uses Chromium backend also my default browser) still supports Windows Vista and Firefox Extended Support Release still supports Vista until atleast June 2018.

    Windows 7 will still be supported by the major browsers for a long time yet as Windows 7 still has a major user share.
    • EveryWhere
    • By EveryWhere 14th Apr 18, 2:41 PM
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    I think they will be (but do not know), Everywhere, as they are surplus machines from an organisation that has updated it's hardware, I understand. Most likely Dell or HP.
    Originally posted by Heedtheadvice
    Perhaps you should find out, as that will determine whether a product key is needed.
    • Xbigman
    • By Xbigman 14th Apr 18, 3:38 PM
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    I never said you can't use Windows 7 beyond 2020. Also Opera browser (which uses Chromium backend also my default browser) still supports Windows Vista and Firefox Extended Support Release still supports Vista until atleast June 2018.

    Windows 7 will still be supported by the major browsers for a long time yet as Windows 7 still has a major user share.
    Originally posted by LeeUK
    My support ending comment wasn't particularly aimed at anyone but just a general observation. There is I think a perception that when an OS goes out of support then that's it and you must have a newer one. Certainly there is an increased security risk as time passes that users should be aware of, due to the lack of security updates. If you like visiting Russian porn websites then maybe you should upgrade to something more secure. For those of us who's browsing history is a little more tame an out of support OS should last for years more.


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    • Neil Jones
    • By Neil Jones 14th Apr 18, 4:43 PM
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    There is I think a perception that when an OS goes out of support then that's it and you must have a newer one. Certainly there is an increased security risk as time passes that users should be aware of, due to the lack of security updates. If you like visiting Russian porn websites then maybe you should upgrade to something more secure. For those of us who's browsing history is a little more tame an out of support OS should last for years more.
    Originally posted by Xbigman
    This is probably more the case but mixed in with the fact that as time passes new software (and hardware) drops support for previous versions of Windows. Office is a key example here, the 2013/2016 versions only work on Windows 7 or later. But there is no magic switch that Microsoft, Google or Apple flip to say "your computer is old and crap, go and buy a new one".

    Eventually there comes a point where no new hardware or software works on a particular version of Windows, so everybody's hand gets forced eventually.
    • Xbigman
    • By Xbigman 16th Apr 18, 12:31 AM
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    A quick update to my post #4 above. The print on the copy of W7 I have is very small resulting in a message from microsoft today (6 days since installation) to say my product key is invalid. My options were;
    1 Phone activation
    2 Buy a new code from Microsoft
    3 Enter a new code.

    I used a magnifying glass to read the product code I had already entered and using option 3 tried it again. It worked. I obviously entered the code incorrectly the first time around. Just be aware you need really good eyesight to activate the software I linked to. Or a magnifying glass.


    Darren
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