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    • PokerPlayer111
    • By PokerPlayer111 10th Apr 18, 12:47 PM
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    Buying a brand new van, tips?
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    • 10th Apr 18, 12:47 PM
    Buying a brand new van, tips? 10th Apr 18 at 12:47 PM
    Want to buy a brand new van, maybe like the vauxhall vivaro - they seem to be about 17k new? is that right? I have no ideas on buying vehicles or how to get a good deal. Going to walk down to the vauxhall dealership today because they must be trusted right? Any tips?

    The plan is to get a new van so me and the mrs can stay in the back overnight when travelling around the UK - 1 or 2 nights max etc. Dont want 2nd hand since we will just get scammed based on having no clue.
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    • neilmcl
    • By neilmcl 10th Apr 18, 12:52 PM
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    Is this for real!

    If you want to buy a new, commercial van just so you can occasionally stay in the back overnight. If this isn't a wind-up then seriously look at getting a dedicated camper rather than what you're currently considering.
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 10th Apr 18, 12:57 PM
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    • 10th Apr 18, 12:57 PM
    Is this for real!

    If you want to buy a new, commercial van just so you can occasionally stay in the back overnight. If this isn't a wind-up then seriously look at getting a dedicated camper rather than what you're currently considering.
    Originally posted by neilmcl
    Maybe hes a member of the Travelling community?
    You are not special. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake.
    • neilmcl
    • By neilmcl 10th Apr 18, 12:58 PM
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    Maybe hes a member of the Travelling community?
    Originally posted by motorguy
    Or the dogging community
    • PokerPlayer111
    • By PokerPlayer111 10th Apr 18, 1:01 PM
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    • 10th Apr 18, 1:01 PM
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    • 10th Apr 18, 1:01 PM
    Is this for real!

    If you want to buy a new, commercial van just so you can occasionally stay in the back overnight. If this isn't a wind-up then seriously look at getting a dedicated camper rather than what you're currently considering.
    Originally posted by neilmcl
    What vehicle would you suggest then?
    Why a dedicated camper though? its mostly going to be 1 night, so 8 hours on a mattress.

    Was thinking of getting something that looks stealth so basically we can pull up anywhere.
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 10th Apr 18, 1:08 PM
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    8 hrs on an airbed or thermarest in an uninsulated, pitch-black, windowless metal box...?
    • CardinalWolsey
    • By CardinalWolsey 10th Apr 18, 1:09 PM
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    Do you have another vehicle that you can drive around in? If so, compare the first year depreciation on a standard van to the number of nights that you could pay for in a B&B or hotel. A second-hand van (or converted camper) on the other hand...
    • PokerPlayer111
    • By PokerPlayer111 10th Apr 18, 1:14 PM
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    8 hrs on an airbed or thermarest in an uninsulated, pitch-black, windowless metal box...?
    Originally posted by AdrianC
    Would only be during warm weather. Insulation could be considered.

    Parking up by beaches or just breaking journeys, stuff like that.
    • PokerPlayer111
    • By PokerPlayer111 10th Apr 18, 1:19 PM
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    Do you have another vehicle that you can drive around in? If so, compare the first year depreciation on a standard van to the number of nights that you could pay for in a B&B or hotel. A second-hand van (or converted camper) on the other hand...
    Originally posted by CardinalWolsey
    Right so i need a 2nd hand van or converted camper then hmmm, dont know enough to assess 2nd hand vehicles.

    Could also be using it day to day, its handy for our business, but a van not necessary needed.

    We bought a cheap brand new ford KA 10 years ago and its been amazing, was hoping to do the same with a van.
    Last edited by PokerPlayer111; 10-04-2018 at 1:27 PM.
    • PokerPlayer111
    • By PokerPlayer111 10th Apr 18, 1:26 PM
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    Yeah so to confirm it would be our only vehicle.
    • neilmcl
    • By neilmcl 10th Apr 18, 1:30 PM
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    If you need a "new" vehicle then the sensible thing to do would be to get a decent, used car, that will meet all your needs and as another poster suggested the amount saved in depreciation alone would easily pay for overnight stays in somewhere much more comfortable.
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 10th Apr 18, 1:32 PM
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    Don't forget all the downsides of using a van, including insurance, parking restrictions, lower speed limits, access to your local tip.
    • PokerPlayer111
    • By PokerPlayer111 10th Apr 18, 1:42 PM
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    If you need a "new" vehicle then the sensible thing to do would be to get a decent, used car, that will meet all your needs and as another poster suggested the amount saved in depreciation alone would easily pay for overnight stays in somewhere much more comfortable.
    Originally posted by neilmcl
    Maybe, currently working out calculations. If we dont get a van was just going to get one of them tesco value dacias new, Maybe the mid range thing, think its called a stepway/duster, they are very cheap.

    Still like the idea of being able to stay anywhere for the night, no booking or checkout, no need to find a hotel.

    Don't forget all the downsides of using a van, including insurance, parking restrictions, lower speed limits, access to your local tip.
    Originally posted by AdrianC
    Ok point taken, what about travel cost difference? if you use a van as your day to day vehicle? big difference?
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 10th Apr 18, 1:45 PM
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    Depends entirely on your current car - but, yes, a 6ft tall vehicle with a blunt front is going to be thirstier than most cars, simply because of basic aerodynamics.
    • Tarambor
    • By Tarambor 10th Apr 18, 2:29 PM
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    Don't forget that unlike a car you buy the price the van is advertised will be without VAT so you need to add 20% onto it so 17k new is 17k+VAT= 20,400.
    • PokerPlayer111
    • By PokerPlayer111 10th Apr 18, 5:00 PM
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    Don't forget that unlike a car you buy the price the van is advertised will be without VAT so you need to add 20% onto it so 17k new is 17k+VAT= 20,400.
    Originally posted by Tarambor
    Yeah im seeing some with VAT and some without. Think its 17k total for brand new swb vivaro. They look cool i think, same with the transit customs.

    Anyway the idea needs more thought.
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 10th Apr 18, 5:08 PM
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    The current Vivaro's soon ending production, being replaced with a Vauxhall-badged Peugeot Expert/Citroen Dispatch/Toyota ProAce instead of the current Vauxhall-badged Renault Trafic/Fiat Talento (it'll stay on the market under those badges), so it's no surprise they're doing substantial discounts on run-out deals. A two-second google finds 14k+vat for vans that list at 22k+vat, so - yep - 17k inc vat. But double check that...


    http://www.happynewvan.co.uk/products/details/2936.html
    • custardy
    • By custardy 10th Apr 18, 7:00 PM
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    What about something like a 7 seat people carrier. fold the 6/7th seats and remove the rear bench/fold flat for overnighters?
    Obviously need to check the size/rear flexibility on the model.
    • PokerPlayer111
    • By PokerPlayer111 10th Apr 18, 7:39 PM
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    The current Vivaro's soon ending production, being replaced with a Vauxhall-badged Peugeot Expert/Citroen Dispatch/Toyota ProAce instead of the current Vauxhall-badged Renault Trafic/Fiat Talento (it'll stay on the market under those badges), so it's no surprise they're doing substantial discounts on run-out deals. A two-second google finds 14k+vat for vans that list at 22k+vat, so - yep - 17k inc vat. But double check that...


    http://www.happynewvan.co.uk/products/details/2936.html
    Originally posted by AdrianC
    Nice, so if you buy from that site its safe? just like a dealership i guess vauxhall still provide all the cover and they are a official reseller? Cheers

    What about something like a 7 seat people carrier. fold the 6/7th seats and remove the rear bench/fold flat for overnighters?
    Obviously need to check the size/rear flexibility on the model.
    Originally posted by custardy
    Yeah considering, just wondering on stealth if we have a light on etc, dont really want to attract attention if we park in random areas. Also have to check out sizes, its a potential idea though.
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 10th Apr 18, 7:42 PM
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    Nice, so if you buy from that site its safe?
    Originally posted by PokerPlayer111
    I have absolutely zero idea, and have never heard of them before. I'm merely putting that link there to give an idea of what prices are being advertised.
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