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    • ruth56
    • By ruth56 9th Apr 18, 1:39 PM
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    Redecorating rented flat
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    • 9th Apr 18, 1:39 PM
    Redecorating rented flat 9th Apr 18 at 1:39 PM
    My son has lived in the rented flat for nearly three years. He is now looking for another flat as he really wants a ground floor one. The letting agent has said that the landlord feels that my son should completely redecorate the flat before he leaves as there is some evidence of damp arpund the windows from condensation. There was a leak from the roof into the bedroom and the room was not redecorated after that by the landlord although several temporary repairs were done, so it still leaks at times. As a landlord ourselves, we thought that after three years the landlord should be redecroating when someone moves out as this is normal usage? Can they charge him out of his deposit for this ? It is not filthy just needs maintenance. The "usual" redecoration" when he moved in was literally lots of paint over wallpaper which had been done many times so it was not well stuck.
    Advice please...dont want to be unreasonable but this seems a bit much!
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    • need an answer
    • By need an answer 9th Apr 18, 1:41 PM
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    • 9th Apr 18, 1:41 PM
    Return the flat as per the check in inventory minus fair wear and tear.

    Dispute any redecoration deduction via the deposit scheme at a later date if necessary.
    Your son has a check in inventory I assume?
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    • ruth56
    • By ruth56 9th Apr 18, 1:45 PM
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    Yes he has an inventory. Is it possible there is a clause in the rental agreement about decorating? He has mental health issues and tends to just sign stuff without showing us. We dont deal directly with our tenants so dont get involved with inventories etc.
    • need an answer
    • By need an answer 9th Apr 18, 1:50 PM
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    • 9th Apr 18, 1:50 PM
    There may be a clause in the agreement regarding redecoration, not all agreements are standard so he should read the agreement that he signed to see if there is anything to suggest it should be done.

    Each LL can customise a tenancy agreement however they wish but the usual rule of thumb is leave the property as you find it minus W&T

    However I find it hard to believe that your son would be responsible for redecorating after an issue with the roof,that would be the responsibility of the LL

    I have seen rental agreement clauses that allow redecoration,usually with the LL's permission or it states that the internal decoration should be reinstated at the end of the tenancy.(if it has been altered by the tenant during occupation)
    Last edited by need an answer; 09-04-2018 at 1:56 PM.
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    • ruth56
    • By ruth56 9th Apr 18, 2:56 PM
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    • 9th Apr 18, 2:56 PM
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    • 9th Apr 18, 2:56 PM
    Yes, thats pretty much what I thought. The agreement, I think is the standard letting agents one which is just W&T. Has not done any alterations himself so nothing to reinstate, and the damage is the landlords problem. Thanks, will be more confident in stating the case when it comes to it!
    • Pixie5740
    • By Pixie5740 9th Apr 18, 3:46 PM
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    • 9th Apr 18, 3:46 PM
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    • 9th Apr 18, 3:46 PM
    Just because a clause is in a tenancy agreement that doesn't make it enforceable. The landlord isn't legally entitled to betterment.
    • Pixie5740
    • By Pixie5740 9th Apr 18, 3:48 PM
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    • 9th Apr 18, 3:48 PM
    Presumably your son reported the leak to the landlord in a timely fashion and has since contact the landlord, or an agent acting on his behalf, in writing to tell them that the roof is still leaking.
    • Smodlet
    • By Smodlet 9th Apr 18, 5:57 PM
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    • 9th Apr 18, 5:57 PM
    Pixie said it all. When is it ever in a tenant's interest to decorate/in any way improve a property they rent? Chances are the LL will deduct from their deposit because they have changed it, however much it needed changing. Imho, your son's LL is having a laugh.
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