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    • Honey-Dee
    • By Honey-Dee 9th Apr 18, 5:28 AM
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    Scs law lbc by ukpc
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    • 9th Apr 18, 5:28 AM
    Scs law lbc by ukpc 9th Apr 18 at 5:28 AM
    Hi all, thanks for all your threads and peace of mind. I have read the NEWBIES thread and I understood them well most of them anyway.

    Why I am starting this thread is because I haven't read anything on hospital car parks. A LBC was received from SCS LAW on behalf of UKPC who in turn is working for a hospital. As staff of the hospital, we pay, monthly, quarterly or yearly on parking and were issued with parking permits. However, half of the time there were never enough spaces therefore parking anywhere posiible in order not to be late for shifts. Each time this happened, ukpc would issue tickets on the screen before the end of the shift. Now a letter has arrived asking for over 800.

    These cowboys rogue are so heartless, on one of the days, ticket office was shut due to staff shortage, a letter was left on the screen explaining this, but a ticket was still left anyway.
    Another occasion, a courtesy car was used and a message was left with own car reg number with explanation that the permit was forgotten in own car and car at garage for Service, a ticket was still issued anyway.
    3rd and most crazy one. The car was left on same spot for 2 days. 1st day, ticket was issued, 2nd day another ticket was issued and the 1st ticket was on the ground......... how did that happen????? Guessed the parking attendant took it off and issued a new one
    We use to laugh about these in the coffee room saying how rogue and crazy they are not knowing it's still coming to take a big chunk out of our backsides
    It was learnt that the amount of tickets they issue the more commission they get....... that is disgusting!!!!
    A complaint will be made to the trust and a reply would be drafted and posted here for a proof read and help.......
    Thanks guys!!!
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    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 17th May 18, 7:45 AM
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    Not "Many thanks" for heaven's sake.

    It should really be a "Dear Sir....................Yours faithfully" letter.

    Does the contract give them authority to take legal action? If not, put that in as well.
    Originally posted by Guys Dad
    +1

    It is the contract with the landowner that needs to include the authority to take legal action, not 'a letter from the landowner'.
    Please note, we are not a legal, residential or credit advice forum, rather one that helps motorists fight private parking charges, primarily at the 'front-end' of the process.
    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
    • Honey-Dee
    • By Honey-Dee 17th May 18, 7:51 AM
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    [QUOTE It should really be a "Dear Sir....................Yours faithfully" letter.[/QUOTE]
    Noted, will change that now thank you.
    • Honey-Dee
    • By Honey-Dee 17th May 18, 8:00 AM
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    is the contract with the landowner that needs to include the authority to take legal action, not 'a letter from the landowner
    Thanks. I have gone through the contract again and it does give permission for court proceedings however, something else caught my eyes whilst reading through it again. It stated that any change to the contract is only effective if and when UKPC agrees to it in writing. So I hope this gives me leverage that the contract is no longer valid.
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 17th May 18, 9:28 AM
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    Thanks. I have gone through the contract again and it does give permission for court proceedings however, something else caught my eyes whilst reading through it again. It stated that any change to the contract is only effective if and when UKPC agrees to it in writing. So I hope this gives me leverage that the contract is no longer valid.
    Originally posted by Dhoney22002
    Keep going ...... I hope all the notice boards in the hospital
    now have the notification that UKPC is banned from the DVLA

    No doubt UKPC are still issuing tickets in the hope they
    can still mug people.
    Why not have a box available for people to put
    their pointless tickets in, build up a collection and then
    present the box to the press.

    I wonder just how much the hospital understands the
    sheer size of the scam operated by UKPC

    So, at the moment ALL UKPC tickets are worthless and you
    are in a prime position to scupper the earnings of UKPC.

    If you have been in contact with your union, they could
    help by finding out all NHS sites that employ UKPC

    If and when the DVLA lift the ban on UKPC, this site
    will know so keep checking
    RBS - MNBA - CAPITAL ONE - LLOYDS

    DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR
    • Honey-Dee
    • By Honey-Dee 17th May 18, 10:11 AM
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    If and when the DVLA lift the ban on UKPC, this site will know so keep checking
    Thank you, I will keep checking.
    • Honey-Dee
    • By Honey-Dee 17th May 18, 10:16 AM
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    If you have been in contact with your union, they could
    help by finding out all NHS sites that employ UKPC
    Are you thinking I take the information gathered to the press?
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 17th May 18, 10:22 AM
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    Are you thinking I take the information gathered to the press?
    Originally posted by Dhoney22002
    They'd love it. I don't suppose you will know about UKPC 'previous' at hospital car parks (and this on top of their ban from DVLA access because of forging of photographs, and now their current ban)?

    Well if you're not aware (nor I guess is your hospital) - have a read of this:

    https://www.aol.co.uk/2014/07/29/parking-cowboys-target-cancer-wards/
    Please note, we are not a legal, residential or credit advice forum, rather one that helps motorists fight private parking charges, primarily at the 'front-end' of the process.
    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 17th May 18, 10:46 AM
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    Are you thinking I take the information gathered to the press?
    Originally posted by Dhoney22002
    OH YES ...... local and National press and if poss, your
    local TV station.

    People must know that as from the 22/3/18 UKPC tickets
    are simply worthless. This is very applicable to NHS hard
    working staff who are being betrayed by the traitor
    Jeremy Hunt

    Do remember that while the NHS is happy to allow
    scammers to steal money from their staff, Hunt is living
    a ripe old life buying properties in the South to rent out

    Constant exposures regarding these hospital scammers
    is the only way forward
    RBS - MNBA - CAPITAL ONE - LLOYDS

    DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR
    • Honey-Dee
    • By Honey-Dee 17th May 18, 10:47 AM
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    OMG this is awful to read and heart breaking actually....... already these patients are vulnerable and struggling financially. How does anyone target such people unless they are hard-core crims!!!
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 17th May 18, 10:47 AM
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    They'd love it. I don't suppose you will know about UKPC 'previous' at hospital car parks (and this on top of their ban from DVLA access because of forging of photographs, and now their current ban)?

    Well if you're not aware (nor I guess is your hospital) - have a read of this:

    https://www.aol.co.uk/2014/07/29/parking-cowboys-target-cancer-wards/
    Originally posted by Umkomaas
    Well said .. well said
    RBS - MNBA - CAPITAL ONE - LLOYDS

    DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR
    • Honey-Dee
    • By Honey-Dee 17th May 18, 10:49 AM
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    And I am sure the trust was not aware of this. Or maybe they knew and just didn't care.
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 17th May 18, 10:51 AM
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    And I am sure the trust was not aware of this. Or maybe they knew and just didn't care.
    Originally posted by Dhoney22002
    Ask them to find out. Email with link. You could do a FOI request asking for copies of the due diligence procedure and data the hospital conducted and collected before contracting with UKPC - and did that due diligence include asking UKPC about the report of their appalling record at hospitals?
    Last edited by Umkomaas; 17-05-2018 at 10:55 AM.
    Please note, we are not a legal, residential or credit advice forum, rather one that helps motorists fight private parking charges, primarily at the 'front-end' of the process.
    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
    • Honey-Dee
    • By Honey-Dee 17th May 18, 10:53 AM
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    Do remember that while the NHS is happy to allow
    scammers to steal money from their staff, Hunt is living
    a ripe old life buying properties in the South to rent out
    Sounds like my Trust might be aware all along that UKPC are scammers but just didn't care.
    • Honey-Dee
    • By Honey-Dee 17th May 18, 10:57 AM
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    Ask them to find out. Email with link. You could do a FOI request asking for copies of the due diligence procedure and data the hospital conducted and collected before contracting with UKPC - and did that due diligence include asking UKPC about the report of their appalling re ord at hospitals?
    Might just do that and they probably will suspect straightaway I am up to something!
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 17th May 18, 11:01 AM
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    Sounds like my Trust might be aware all along that UKPC are scammers but just didn't care.
    Originally posted by Dhoney22002
    With all the bad publicity about parking and UKPC, someone
    knows, the big question is still .... "who benefits from this"

    Corruption is not confined to the Far East ?
    RBS - MNBA - CAPITAL ONE - LLOYDS

    DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 17th May 18, 11:35 AM
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    Might just do that and they probably will suspect straightaway I am up to something!
    Originally posted by Dhoney22002
    A FOI request doesn't have to be in your real name - a nom de plume is fine. Go here:


    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com
    Please note, we are not a legal, residential or credit advice forum, rather one that helps motorists fight private parking charges, primarily at the 'front-end' of the process.
    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
    • Honey-Dee
    • By Honey-Dee 29th Jul 18, 5:54 PM
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    Hi all, I am back, thanks for all your help so far.

    1st problem: I have now received a COUNTY COURT LETTER which I have to reply to within 14 days. I am hopefully banking on your help and support in winning this case.
    1st of, do I reply disputing the total amount? If I do, can this be based on already paid as most times I had a parking permit but no space to park.
    OR
    Do I dispute and base it on defence of unfair parking tickets being issued due to above reason and many more..... actually reading this I think using the defence method is better as this will expose all UKPC unfairness.


    My 2nd problem is the trust, I emailed my trust requesting
    1) details of contract with UKPC or at least dates the contracts were valid.
    2) knowledge of / research done on UKPC prior to awarding them contract.
    3) their awareness of UKPC's ban.

    Anyway, below is their reply which by the way arrived 21days after my initial request. I sent a reminder on the 28th of June. They have breached the code of FOI act 2000

    *****Thank you for your request dated 14th June 2018. Please find the response below.

    1) I would like a copy of the contract you agreed with UKPC please, being the landowner.

    This is commercially sensitive information and falls within the Freedom of information Act 2000 exemption at section 43 (2) - commercial interests. It is the Trust!!!8217;s view that if this information were to be disclosed it would be likely to prejudice the Trust or a third party in its commercial dealings

    Also, if the contract does not instruct them to take people to court for outstanding penalty payments, could you please include any proof of authorisation you have given them.

    This is commercially sensitive information and falls within the Freedom of information Act 2000 exemption at section 43 (2) - commercial interests. It is the Trust!!!8217;s view that if this information were to be disclosed it would be likely to prejudice the Trust or a third party in its commercial dealings.

    2) Are you aware the company has a reputation of being brutal, unfair and falsifying tickets and pictures and for these reasons, DVLA has banned them from issuing further tickets for now?

    We can confirm there is no current ban in force.

    3) Who decided that this company was the best one to contract the management of parking on the Trust sites to?

    This was a trust decision.

    4) If the contract has already been terminated? Could you please provide the termination date to also include the start date.

    N/A *********

    Basically, they are hiding behind commercially sensitive information. At least they did not deny it being foe their own commercial gain.

    They denied any ban on UKPC.

    I am still in communication with them as they have breached the FOI act and I will be making official complaints to the ICO (Information Commissioner's Office)

    Also, the parking office at the trust is now ignoring my emails and telephone messages after they promised to look into the whole thing with UKPC and unfair charges for me. They suddenly stopped communicating with me. UKPC probably told them to butt out as they are planning on taking me to court anyway.
    Luckily the Trust can't ignore me as there are laws they have to abide by.

    Thank you for your reply guys. Main concern is the County Court Claims.
    • KeithP
    • By KeithP 29th Jul 18, 6:12 PM
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    What is the Date of Issue on your Claim Form?

    You now need to read post #2 of the NEWBIES FAQ sticky thread.

    In there you will find an easy to follow dropbox file which guides you through the Acknowledgement of Service.

    Read more of that post to discover how to prepare a Defence.
    .
    • Honey-Dee
    • By Honey-Dee 29th Jul 18, 6:20 PM
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    Issue date was the 20th July 2018.
    • Honey-Dee
    • By Honey-Dee 29th Jul 18, 6:24 PM
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    Read more of that post to discover how to prepare a Defence
    Ok will do that thanks.
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