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    • MSE Andrea
    • By MSE Andrea 28th Mar 18, 9:45 AM
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    Forum updates
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    • 28th Mar 18, 9:45 AM
    Forum updates 28th Mar 18 at 9:45 AM
    Hi folks

    We wanted to let you know about a few changes we’ll be making over the coming weeks to help keep the forum secure. Some of them may affect the way you use the Forum.

    Switching the Forum to HTTPS (unsecure url message)

    Some of you have noticed the phrase “unsecure url” in your address bar. We’re working now on switching the forum to HTTPS, which will mean that message will no longer show, and aiming to go live with it in April. This will involve turning the forum off for a few hours overnight while it’s set live. We’ll let you know closer to the time when this will be.

    Turning off old forum versions

    Work to switch the forum to HTTPS needs to be done on all versions (skins) of the forum. To reduce the time and resource it takes to make the switch we need to switch off some of those old forum skins and migrate the forum members who are on them to a newer skin (the one prior to the new blue skin). This will affect around 1,000 of you. You will still be on an old, green version of the Forum and will, of course, still be able to choose to switch to the newest, blue version if you decide to. We’re sorry this may affect your use of the Forum. Our priority, though, has to be the security of the site.

    Facebook login

    Facebook is making changes to the way Facebook log-in works in April. At this time we’ve taken the decision to remove the ability to log into the Forum via Facebook.


    Let us know if you have any questions.

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    • Pyxis
    • By Pyxis 13th Apr 18, 4:32 PM
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    Pyxis
    not for everyone
    Originally posted by Wizard of Id
    That's weird.

    Was that because of being on a different skin before?
    (I just lurve spiders! )
    INFJ(Turbulent).

    Her Greenliness Baroness Pyxis of the Alphabetty, Pinnacle of Peadom and Official Brainbox
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    • Wizard of Id
    • By Wizard of Id 13th Apr 18, 7:57 PM
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    Wizard of Id
    That's weird.

    Was that because of being on a different skin before?
    Originally posted by Pyxis
    No idea, I mentioned it on another thread when the spam button made a comeback and it seems there were quite a number of us that didn't get it.
    I thought it might appear when the stretchy got kicked into touch but still no sign of the button.

    Not saying that I would have used it very much as the current wave of spamming bothers me about as much as it bothers the forum team.
    Every man is innocent until proven broke.
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    • Pyxis
    • By Pyxis 13th Apr 18, 8:13 PM
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    Pyxis
    No idea, I mentioned it on another thread when the spam button made a comeback and it seems there were quite a number of us that didn't get it.
    I thought it might appear when the stretchy got kicked into touch but still no sign of the button.

    Not saying that I would have used it very much as the current wave of spamming bothers me about as much as it bothers the forum team.
    Originally posted by Wizard of Id
    Are you on the blue and white skin?
    (I just lurve spiders! )
    INFJ(Turbulent).

    Her Greenliness Baroness Pyxis of the Alphabetty, Pinnacle of Peadom and Official Brainbox
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    • Wizard of Id
    • By Wizard of Id 13th Apr 18, 8:22 PM
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    Wizard of Id
    Are you on the blue and white skin?
    Originally posted by Pyxis
    I've been on the green from day 2 after joining (once I figured out how to change)
    Every man is innocent until proven broke.
    Cryin won't help you, prayin won't do you no good.

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    • poppellerant
    • By poppellerant 14th Apr 18, 12:44 AM
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    I could almost make the move to the new style forum. But a massive bugbear for me is not being able to see which threads I have replied to. These were the icons that indicated to me I had posted in a thread:
    or

    With the new style forum, I only see either grey or green dots. According to the key at the bottom, I should see a push pin to indicate that "You have posted in this thread".

    All the MSE forum team need to do is make the old style (green) forum less narrow - ie: not 50% of the display. 75% would be far more acceptable, but 100% would please me.
    • LeeUK
    • By LeeUK 14th Apr 18, 1:31 AM
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    I use the old green skin as I prefer the old vBulletin forum layout compared to the modern floaty floaty stuff that everywhere has these days.

    But the only problem is that the last day or so it's been squashed in the middle of the screen with huge white margins at either side. I thought people's screens where getting bigger not smaller...
    • prowla
    • By prowla 14th Apr 18, 7:28 AM
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    prowla
    Well, my interface changed to a brighter green one and the layout changed.

    I've now flipped to the forum default, but it's not so nice with all of that wasted space and useless margins either side; between that and the spam messages there's very little real content on screen.

    Now I can't find a settings/preferences button anymore - can anybody tell me where it's gone to?
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 14th Apr 18, 7:33 AM
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    Until people here mentioned them, I'd never thought about the blank bits on the page. I'm on a wide screen, so I suppose about half of my page is blank.

    Now I have thought about them, the blanks still don't bother me.
    Originally posted by Davesnave
    The main issue is excessive and unnecessary scrolling of the page .. the narrower the viewport then the longer the page length.
    Originally posted by DoaM
    Having installed the Stylish add-on,(also available for Firefox, not just Chrome) I've had the ability to switch instantly between the two layouts.

    It's not a big deal either way, but after 10+ years of seeing the narrow version, I'm more comfortable with that. On a wide screen, I find it easier to keep the print in the centre of my vision.

    I think we humans just like what we're used to.

    I suggest those who don't like what they are seeing use the Stylish add on, which takes a couple of minutes to install. It might be more productive than moaning on here.
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    • 2010
    • By 2010 14th Apr 18, 8:02 AM
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    2010
    Just tried this link to change back to green stretchy but it is being blocked and saying it`s unsafe.

    Can someone try it to see if it`s just my security blocking it.
    I`m using chrome.

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=74151687&postcount=8
    • prowla
    • By prowla 14th Apr 18, 8:17 AM
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    re. "moaning" - I'm all for change for the better, but when I login and can only see 3 posts listed in a window in a sea of borders, gadgets, wasted space, I have to say that the fripperies have taken precedence over the content, to the point that this change is not for the better.

    The value of the forum is in the content, not the window dressing, and the current layout prioritises the style over all else.
    • poppellerant
    • By poppellerant 14th Apr 18, 10:18 AM
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    If anybody has uBlock installed for Firefox, block the column which is always on the right hand side of the forums. It is a waste of precious space and blocking it makes things a little more bearable.

    Link to uBlock Origin for Chrome: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpalhdlnbpafiamejdnhcphjbkeiagm?hl=en
    Link to uBlock Origin for Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/

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    • prowla
    • By prowla 14th Apr 18, 11:44 AM
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    prowla
    Look at all that wasted space!

    There are only 6 lines of content in that screendump.
    • Frogletina
    • By Frogletina 14th Apr 18, 12:55 PM
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    Frogletina
    Just tried this link to change back to green stretchy but it is being blocked and saying it`s unsafe.

    Can someone try it to see if it`s just my security blocking it.
    I`m using chrome.

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=74151687&postcount=8
    Originally posted by 2010
    I am using it with no problems
    Not Rachmaninov
    But Nyman
    The heart asks for pleasure first

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    • 2010
    • By 2010 14th Apr 18, 12:59 PM
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    2010
    I am using it with no problems
    Originally posted by Frogletina
    Thanks but I want to know if the link is working not that you are already using it OK.
    I keep getting the link to it blocked.
    • MothballsWallet
    • By MothballsWallet 14th Apr 18, 1:00 PM
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    MothballsWallet
    I now have half a page of white.

    Oh well.

    Bring back stretchy, bring back stretchy (I know they won't, I'm only saying it to stir up feeling and get MSE Andrea to respond!)
    Originally posted by Tigsteroonie
    I gotta an idea, Tigs!
    Always ask yourself one question: What would Gibbs do?

    I live in the UK City of Culture 2021

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    • Frogletina
    • By Frogletina 14th Apr 18, 1:07 PM
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    Frogletina
    Thanks but I want to know if the link is working not that you are already using it OK.
    I keep getting the link to it blocked.
    Originally posted by 2010
    I used that link two days ago without a problem
    Not Rachmaninov
    But Nyman
    The heart asks for pleasure first

    SPC 8 #441 £1567.31 SPC 9 #441 £1014.64 SPC 10 #441 £1164.13
    • MothballsWallet
    • By MothballsWallet 14th Apr 18, 1:08 PM
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    MothballsWallet
    MSE Andrea: Mr Gibbs asks if the green stretchy skin can be added as an option please as he finds it useful too?
    Always ask yourself one question: What would Gibbs do?

    I live in the UK City of Culture 2021

    I had to put mothballs in my wallet - the moths had learned the PINs to my cards...
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 14th Apr 18, 2:46 PM
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    Davesnave
    Thanks but I want to know if the link is working, not that you are already using it OK.
    I keep getting the link to it blocked.
    Originally posted by 2010
    Well, unblock it.

    You were simply being told the link is safe.

    None of us can alter your security settings, but you ought to be able to override them.
    I might be old, but I got to see a lot of good bands...
    • tronator
    • By tronator 14th Apr 18, 3:52 PM
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    tronator
    Want your stretchy screen back?

    All we need is a good Painkiller, and this one works

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=74151687&postcount=8
    Originally posted by VoucherMan
    And the same can be done without an extra add-on.

    In your Firefox profile folder go into the "chrome" subfolder and add this to the userContent.css

    Code:
    @-moz-document domain(forums.moneysavingexpert.com) {
            .forum_container {
                    width: 100% !important;
            }
    }
    If this file doesn't exist, just create it. After restarting Firefox the forum is stretched. It's beyond me why the admins chose a fixed width of 1000px over 100%.
    • MothballsWallet
    • By MothballsWallet 14th Apr 18, 8:40 PM
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    MothballsWallet
    And the same can be done without an extra add-on.

    In your Firefox profile folder go into the "chrome" subfolder and add this to the userContent.css

    Code:
    @-moz-document domain(forums.moneysavingexpert.com) {
            .forum_container {
                    width: 100% !important;
            }
    }
    If this file doesn't exist, just create it. After restarting Firefox the forum is stretched. It's beyond me why the admins chose a fixed width of 1000px over 100%.
    Originally posted by tronator
    Maybe they typed the changes up on an iPad and it put "1000px" instead of "100%" or "100pc"?
    Always ask yourself one question: What would Gibbs do?

    I live in the UK City of Culture 2021

    I had to put mothballs in my wallet - the moths had learned the PINs to my cards...
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