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    • MSE Andrea
    • By MSE Andrea 28th Mar 18, 9:45 AM
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    • 28th Mar 18, 9:45 AM
    Forum updates 28th Mar 18 at 9:45 AM
    Hi folks

    We wanted to let you know about a few changes we’ll be making over the coming weeks to help keep the forum secure. Some of them may affect the way you use the Forum.

    Switching the Forum to HTTPS (unsecure url message)

    Some of you have noticed the phrase “unsecure url” in your address bar. We’re working now on switching the forum to HTTPS, which will mean that message will no longer show, and aiming to go live with it in April. This will involve turning the forum off for a few hours overnight while it’s set live. We’ll let you know closer to the time when this will be.

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    Work to switch the forum to HTTPS needs to be done on all versions (skins) of the forum. To reduce the time and resource it takes to make the switch we need to switch off some of those old forum skins and migrate the forum members who are on them to a newer skin (the one prior to the new blue skin). This will affect around 1,000 of you. You will still be on an old, green version of the Forum and will, of course, still be able to choose to switch to the newest, blue version if you decide to. We’re sorry this may affect your use of the Forum. Our priority, though, has to be the security of the site.

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    • 10_66
    • By 10_66 12th Apr 18, 6:18 PM
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    What a ******* cr*p decision it is to take away the old green stretchy version!!! I have eye sight issues and use a widescreen PC for viewing this forum, not a mobile phone or iPad. This enforced version, where most of the screen is taken up with broad blank bands, is utterly useless to me
    • VoucherMan
    • By VoucherMan 12th Apr 18, 6:38 PM
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    What a crock of *****


    Got rid of my white space courtesy of a Chrome extension mentioned on another thread
    Originally posted by Tigsteroonie
    Care to share?


    Anyone know where I can buy a 4:3 pc monitor to make best use of screen space. I threw my old one away thinking widescreen was the future.

    • 10_66
    • By 10_66 12th Apr 18, 7:23 PM
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    ...Anyone know where I can buy a 4:3 pc monitor to make best use of screen space. I threw my old one away thinking widescreen was the future.
    Originally posted by VoucherMan
    Maybe MSE Towers will have some that they'd like to share out, as they obviously favour this rubbish layout
    • Pyxis
    • By Pyxis 12th Apr 18, 7:45 PM
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    Well, at least MSE have left us a green skin. It could have been worse....... a lot worse!








    Anyone know where I can buy a 4:3 pc monitor to make best use of screen space. I threw my old one away thinking widescreen was the future.
    Originally posted by VoucherMan
    You could try the British Heart Foundation shops as they sell a lot of electrical/electronic second-hand stuff.



    Or ask/look on Freegle/Freecycle and get one free!
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    • kpwll
    • By kpwll 12th Apr 18, 7:51 PM
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    Well, at least MSE have left us a green skin. It could have been worse....... a lot worse!








    You could try the British Heart Foundation shops as they sell a lot of electrical/electronic second-hand stuff.



    Or ask/look on Freegle/Freecycle and get one free!
    Originally posted by Pyxis

    The headings on mine are green, but the main background on the posts is pale blue.
    • VoucherMan
    • By VoucherMan 12th Apr 18, 7:58 PM
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    Want your stretchy screen back?

    All we need is a good Painkiller, and this one works

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=74151687&postcount=8

    • DoaM
    • By DoaM 12th Apr 18, 9:13 PM
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    Want your stretchy screen back?

    All we need is a good Painkiller, and this one works

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=74151687&postcount=8
    Originally posted by VoucherMan
    I can confirm that this works. At the page linked in the post linked above, choose Install With Stylish and the magic basically happens by itself. Then simply Ctrl+R to refresh MSE and you're back to stretchy.
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    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 12th Apr 18, 9:32 PM
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    Until people here mentioned them, I'd never thought about the blank bits on the page. I'm on a wide screen, so I suppose about half of my page is blank.

    Now I have thought about them, the blanks still don't bother me. They're just a white bit and two greyish bits. I know they're there and I don't need to look at them, so what's the problem?
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    • DoaM
    • By DoaM 12th Apr 18, 9:50 PM
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    so what's the problem?
    Originally posted by Davesnave
    The main issue is excessive and unnecessary scrolling of the page .. the narrower the viewport then the longer the page length.
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    • Mista_C
    • By Mista_C 12th Apr 18, 10:41 PM
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    It doesn't work well at all on high resolution...



    ...and I have no intention of installing 3rd party browser plugins just to view ONE website.
    • Frogletina
    • By Frogletina 12th Apr 18, 11:19 PM
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    Want your stretchy screen back?

    All we need is a good Painkiller, and this one works

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=74151687&postcount=8
    Originally posted by VoucherMan
    Wow - brilliant!

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    • dunstonh
    • By dunstonh 12th Apr 18, 11:19 PM
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    I can confirm that this works. At the page linked in the post linked above, choose Install With Stylish and the magic basically happens by itself. Then simply Ctrl+R to refresh MSE and you're back to stretchy.
    Originally posted by DoaM
    Thank you for that. It makes it more bearable.

    The fixed width skins on an ultrawide monitor was only using 1/8th of the width. it was swamped with white area.

    White area that actually increases your electricity usage.
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    • SingleSue
    • By SingleSue 13th Apr 18, 12:28 AM
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    Any idea when they are going to put in a fix so that we can have the page back to normal instead of just the middle half of a screen with big white borders without having to download external things to do so? Or at least toning down the white?

    So much white, it's killing my eyes!

    I did try zooming but that too is a bit of a hassle for one site and it makes the writing far too big that I end up trying to type with my arms stretched out. Oh and I am not using a browser that is covered by the links to that external download.

    To be clear, I don't mind the look of the site now, I just want it to fit my screen instead of a slender narrow column in the middle of it.

    The alternative is to give up looking at the site on a laptop and just popping in from time to time on a mobile where it is as least bearable.
    We made it! One graduated, 2 currently at university, been hard work but it shows there is a possibility of a chance of normal (ish) life after a diagnosis (or two) of ASD. It's not been the easiest route but I am so glad I ignored everything and everyone and did my own therapies with them.
    Eldests' EDS diagnosis 4.5.10, mine 13.1.11 eekk!
    • badmemory
    • By badmemory 13th Apr 18, 12:54 AM
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    I guess the whole thing is designed for people who have nothing better to do in work than check out things on their very expensive mobile phone (not very MSE or hopefully for their job prospects). Total & literal waste of space on an actual computer.

    Unfortunately we seem to have the spam button back in the same place as before so I suppose some threads will land up deleted without reason! Again!
    Last edited by badmemory; 13-04-2018 at 1:04 AM.
    • Pyxis
    • By Pyxis 13th Apr 18, 6:03 AM
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    I guess the whole thing is designed for people who have nothing better to do in work than check out things on their very expensive mobile phone (not very MSE or hopefully for their job prospects). Total & literal waste of space on an actual computer.

    Unfortunately we seem to have the spam button back in the same place as before so I suppose some threads will land up deleted without reason! Again!
    Originally posted by badmemory
    The spam button has been back for quite some time.
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    • Pyxis
    • By Pyxis 13th Apr 18, 6:09 AM
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    Any idea when they are going to put in a fix so that we can have the page back to normal instead of just the middle half of a screen with big white borders without having to download external things to do so? Or at least toning down the white?

    So much white, it's killing my eyes!
    Originally posted by SingleSue
    Sue, there are no plans to fix that. What's happened is that old skins, including your green stretchy one, have been taken off the system.

    The only options now available are the green Fixed Width one that you are now seeing, or the 'new' blue one.


    I've been on the green Fixed one since I joined MSE, and only use an iPad, so I don't see any difference, but lots of people like you are finding this non-stretchy one difficult.
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    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 13th Apr 18, 7:05 AM
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    The main issue is excessive and unnecessary scrolling of the page .. the narrower the viewport then the longer the page length.
    Originally posted by DoaM
    I can see that would be more difficult for those with arthritis etc, but despite being old and a bit decrepit, my index finger still works OK, so again, I'd never have noticed this if you'd not mentioned it.

    Anyway, it's good if there are some answers for Chrome users. I'm not one of them, so I'll just go blind and wear out my finger!
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    • SingleSue
    • By SingleSue 13th Apr 18, 10:10 AM
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    SingleSue
    Sue, there are no plans to fix that. What's happened is that old skins, including your green stretchy one, have been taken off the system.

    The only options now available are the green Fixed Width one that you are now seeing, or the 'new' blue one.


    I've been on the green Fixed one since I joined MSE, and only use an iPad, so I don't see any difference, but lots of people like you are finding this non-stretchy one difficult.
    Originally posted by Pyxis
    I didn't like the look of the new one on my mobile or Ipad when not signed in and it was always a relief to sign in and get the old one (even if I had to do some expert side scrolling) but the green fixed width really does me in on a laptop. For the moment, I have switched to the new style rather than the green fixed width one as that is less eeky on my eyes and my fingers (yes, arthritic fingers are a feature here) and it at least fills the screen a little better on my laptop.

    Thing is, it should be possible to tweak things so that a (possibly new) stretchy skin for the green version is available without downloading extensions from a third party or risking security issues for the site so that is suits both mobile devices and static ones rather than just the one medium, although I expect the reply to that will be just to use the new version that I am currently using as that is more suited for a desktop/laptop!
    We made it! One graduated, 2 currently at university, been hard work but it shows there is a possibility of a chance of normal (ish) life after a diagnosis (or two) of ASD. It's not been the easiest route but I am so glad I ignored everything and everyone and did my own therapies with them.
    Eldests' EDS diagnosis 4.5.10, mine 13.1.11 eekk!
    • Wizard of Id
    • By Wizard of Id 13th Apr 18, 11:26 AM
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    The spam button has been back for quite some time.
    Originally posted by Pyxis
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    • john539
    • By john539 13th Apr 18, 4:19 PM
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    Dear oh dear !

    5 steps backwards.

    All that wasted space left & right !
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    Last edited by john539; 13-04-2018 at 4:23 PM. Reason: 5 steps backwards
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