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    • jay49
    • By jay49 19th Mar 18, 5:22 PM
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    • 19th Mar 18, 5:22 PM
    Smart parking 19th Mar 18 at 5:22 PM
    Hello - I am a Newbie..

    I have rear and read load of posts and have come to the conculsion i can not ignore as i once beleived.

    I got a PCN from Smart Parking from Doncaster B and M - `The car was parked for an hour and a half. You used to be allowed 2 hours but this has changed apparently ( such i found out after this notice.)

    However the date of the parking contravention was 17/ 02/ 18I recieved the letter today 19/03/18 - Its actually dated 15/03/18

    I have read and lost a post that says they have 14 days to send a PCN to me if not displayed on the windshield - It wasnt - It was a lovely photograph in the post!!

    My question is can i use the 14 day thing to appeal?

    I have 2 weeks to pay 50 then its 90 plus 10.......

    The rules changed recently but didnt find out till todayafter the postman came and I googled.. ( lots of outrage) -

    Many thanks
    Last edited by jay49; 20-03-2018 at 11:17 AM. Reason: advised
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    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 19th Mar 18, 5:27 PM
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    • 19th Mar 18, 5:27 PM
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    • 19th Mar 18, 5:27 PM
    My question is can i use the 14 day thing to appeal?
    Why do people focus on the dates, when the entire NTK they posted to you, isn't worded under the POFA anyway, who cares about the dates?! The wording tells you they can only hold a driver liable!

    You just need to get the registered keeper (you?) to appeal using the template in the NEWBIES thread shown in my signature below. Nothing more or less, use the template appeal as rk.

    Forget the 14 days for now; the NTK wording is the issue, not only the date. This does NOT all need stating at first appeal but is already covered in the template in so many words.

    Because Smart do not use the POFA, you WIN at POPLA by appealing as rk!!

    PLEASE EDIT YOUR FIRST POST, IT SAYS WHO PARKED...!
    Last edited by Coupon-mad; 19-03-2018 at 5:30 PM.
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • Fruitcake
    • By Fruitcake 19th Mar 18, 5:37 PM
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    • 19th Mar 18, 5:37 PM
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    • 19th Mar 18, 5:37 PM
    Absolutely edit your post NOW to remove information about who did what. Only ever refer to The Driver and The Keeper, who at two different people.
    I married my cousin. I had to...
    I don't have a sister.

    All my screwdrivers are cordless.
    "You're Safety Is My Primary Concern Dear" - Laks
    • jay49
    • By jay49 17th Apr 18, 10:11 AM
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    • 17th Apr 18, 10:11 AM
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    • 17th Apr 18, 10:11 AM
    Thanks for the advice

    The newbies blue template does what it says on the tin !!!!!

    Dear ME!

    Parking Charge Notice Number :!!!!!!!!!!


    Thank you for your recent communication.

    I have noted the points you raised and would like to confirm that we are cancelling the Parking Charge Notice.

    If I can be of any further assistance please do not hesitate to contact me.


    Yours sincerely,

    Smart Parking Ltd
    • The Deep
    • By The Deep 17th Apr 18, 10:30 AM
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    • 17th Apr 18, 10:30 AM
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    • 17th Apr 18, 10:30 AM
    This is an entirely unregulated industry which is scamming the public with inflated claims for minor breaches of contracts for alleged parking offences, aided and abetted by a handful of low-rent solicitors.

    Parking Eye, CPM, Smart, and another company have already been named and shamed, as has Gladstones Solicitors, and BW Legal, (these two law firms take hundreds of these cases to court each year). They lose most of them, and have been reported to the regulatory authority by an M.P. for unprofessional conduct

    Hospital car parks and residential complex tickets have been especially mentioned.

    The problem has become so rampant that MPs have agreed to enact a Bill to regulate these scammers. Watch the video of the Second Reading in the HofC recently.

    http://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/2f0384f2-eba5-4fff-ab07-cf24b6a22918?in=12:49:41

    and complain in the most robust terms to your MP. With a fair wind they will be out of business by Christmas.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
    • Fruitcake
    • By Fruitcake 17th Apr 18, 10:34 AM
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    • 17th Apr 18, 10:34 AM
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    • 17th Apr 18, 10:34 AM
    Thanks for the advice

    The newbies blue template does what it says on the tin !!!!!

    Dear ME!

    Parking Charge Notice Number :!!!!!!!!!!


    Thank you for your recent communication.

    I have noted the points you raised and would like to confirm that we are cancelling the Parking Charge Notice.

    If I can be of any further assistance please do not hesitate to contact me.


    Yours sincerely,

    Smart Parking Ltd
    Originally posted by jay49
    Not-so-Smart Scammers Inc.

    There, corrected it for you.

    Don't forget to complain to the landowner, your MP, and Sir Greg Knight MP about this unregulated scam.

    These are some of the comments made by the MPs in Parliament concerning the unregulated parking industry (Feb 2018):

    https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2018-02-02/debates/CC84AF5E-AC6E-4E14-81B1-066E6A892807/Parking(CodeOfPractice)Bill

    ''Rip-offs from car park Cowboys must stop''; unfair treatment; signage deliberately confusing to ensure a PCN is issued; ''years of abuse by rogue parking companies''; bloodsuckers; ''the current system of regulation is hopeless, like putting Dracula in charge of the blood-bank''; extortionate fines; rogue operators; ''sense of injustice''; unfair charges and notices; wilfully misleading; signage is a deliberate act to deceive or mislead; ''confusing signs are often deliberate, to trap innocent drivers''; unreasonable; a curse; harassing; operating in a disgusting way; appeals service is no guarantee of a fair hearing; loathed; outrageous scam; dodgy practice; outrageous abuse; unscrupulous practices; ''the British Parking Association is as much use as a multi-storey car park in the Gobi desert''; and finally, by way of unanimous conclusion: ''we need to crack down on these rogue companies. They are an absolute disgrace to this country. Ordinary motorists and ordinary residents should not have to put up with this''.

    These are the exact words used, so you should quote them to your MP in a complaint and ask him/her to contact Sir Greg Knight MP if he wants further information about this scam.
    I married my cousin. I had to...
    I don't have a sister.

    All my screwdrivers are cordless.
    "You're Safety Is My Primary Concern Dear" - Laks
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 17th Apr 18, 10:48 AM
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    Hahaha, Smart do not like the template appeal!

    If I can be of any further assistance please do not hesitate to contact me.
    How about a SAR, to start the ball rolling?!
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

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