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    • toshkininny
    • By toshkininny 14th Mar 18, 6:49 PM
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    Sold a stolen car, advice please
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    • 14th Mar 18, 6:49 PM
    Sold a stolen car, advice please 14th Mar 18 at 6:49 PM
    Some advice please. We bought a car 2.5 years ago from a local garage, We've now decided to sell it through webuyanycar and so made an appointment. On checking, they called and told us that our car was flagged as stolen on their systems.

    After doing a bit of digging, we found out that a woman's house had been burgled and in the burglary they'd been able to find the car keys and take the car.

    Anyway, we've had to pay for an HPI. What I don't understand is why, when arranging our car insurance, MOT, and tax disc nothing showed up.

    So, I'm fuming with the garage, but what comeback do I have with them?


    Thanks in advance.
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    • Car 54
    • By Car 54 14th Mar 18, 7:00 PM
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    • #2
    • 14th Mar 18, 7:00 PM
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    • 14th Mar 18, 7:00 PM
    I'd suspect an error.

    The car could well have been returned to its owner (or to the insurance company) and sUbsequently sold legitimately, but whatever database webuyanycar use was informed of the theft but not the recovery.
    • toshkininny
    • By toshkininny 14th Mar 18, 7:08 PM
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    • #3
    • 14th Mar 18, 7:08 PM
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    • 14th Mar 18, 7:08 PM
    Surely the garage does it's own checks though?
    • Car 54
    • By Car 54 14th Mar 18, 8:01 PM
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    • #4
    • 14th Mar 18, 8:01 PM
    • #4
    • 14th Mar 18, 8:01 PM
    Surely the garage does it's own checks though?
    Originally posted by toshkininny
    Yes, and found nothing wrong.
    • stator
    • By stator 14th Mar 18, 8:35 PM
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    • #5
    • 14th Mar 18, 8:35 PM
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    • 14th Mar 18, 8:35 PM
    Garage might not do any checks, just like you didn't do any
    Changing the world, one sarcastic comment at a time.
    • robatwork
    • By robatwork 14th Mar 18, 8:40 PM
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    • #6
    • 14th Mar 18, 8:40 PM
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    • 14th Mar 18, 8:40 PM
    Quick chat with the garage first, perhaps email/fax them the HPI.
    Then ask them politely what they propose to do about this.
    If they are unhelpful, suggest that your next step is to PC Plod.
    • twhitehousescat
    • By twhitehousescat 14th Mar 18, 8:42 PM
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    • #7
    • 14th Mar 18, 8:42 PM
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    • 14th Mar 18, 8:42 PM
    whats the last owner on the v5 say?
    Time pretending I was asleep whilst under his desk , has given me insight to this sordid world
    • arcon5
    • By arcon5 15th Mar 18, 4:23 AM
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    • #8
    • 15th Mar 18, 4:23 AM
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    • 15th Mar 18, 4:23 AM
    May have been stolen, insured paid out, car then recovered and auctioned off by them.
    • Herzlos
    • By Herzlos 15th Mar 18, 5:29 AM
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    • #9
    • 15th Mar 18, 5:29 AM
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    • 15th Mar 18, 5:29 AM
    Did you do your own you? What does it say?
    How much did you pay for the car?
    • cjdavies
    • By cjdavies 15th Mar 18, 5:49 AM
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    Did you do a HPI yourself before you handed over the money?
    • AndyMc.....
    • By AndyMc..... 15th Mar 18, 7:19 AM
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    Phone your local police, a possible reason is no pnc found report.
    • Geodark
    • By Geodark 15th Mar 18, 12:37 PM
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    If it was stolen, how could you have got the V5?
    • AndyMc.....
    • By AndyMc..... 15th Mar 18, 12:42 PM
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    If it was stolen, how could you have got the V5?
    Originally posted by Geodark
    Lax practices at the DVLA.
    • Geodark
    • By Geodark 15th Mar 18, 12:54 PM
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    Lax practices at the DVLA.
    Originally posted by AndyMc.....
    Really? I thought all this would have been computerised, so unless the V5 was stolen at the same time as the car how could a new one have been obtained? Bit worrying if it is as simple as filling out a form with DVLA to get a new form issued and no checks made.
    • AndyMc.....
    • By AndyMc..... 15th Mar 18, 1:10 PM
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    Really? I thought all this would have been computerised, so unless the V5 was stolen at the same time as the car how could a new one have been obtained? Bit worrying if it is as simple as filling out a form with DVLA to get a new form issued and no checks made.
    Originally posted by Geodark
    They delete records as and when they see fit. A recent example is all those who have lost additional entitlements from their licences.
    • toshkininny
    • By toshkininny 16th Mar 18, 10:30 AM
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    Hi, no we didn't do any checks. Because I naively thought that buying from a garage covered us on that sort of thing - I would have done a check buying privately, but didn't realise we'd have to do our own because I thought garages carry out their own checks before selling.
    • Homersimpson
    • By Homersimpson 17th Mar 18, 9:39 PM
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    I bought a stolen recovered car from a salvage yard (no damage, taken with keys), it said that it was reported stolen on the HPI check but nothing about it being recovered.

    I rang the police who advise that it was listed as having been recovered and they had no further interest in it.

    It does massively impact the value though, the car I bought was a 5year old X-Type diesel and it cost me 2k in 2011, similar cars without the stolen recovered marker were going for 4-5k.
    I have a lot of problems with my neighbours, they hammer and bang on the walls sometimes until 2 or 3 in the morning - some nights I can hardly hear myself drilling
    • toshkininny
    • By toshkininny 18th Mar 18, 9:54 AM
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    Thanks so do you think the likes of We Buy Any Car would have used this information to devalue the car even further ?
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 18th Mar 18, 10:33 AM
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    Thanks so do you think the likes of We Buy Any Car would have used this information to devalue the car even further ?
    Originally posted by toshkininny
    Is the real issue here not that you are potentially driving about in a stolen car? You need to get that bottomed out and the marker removed
    "We have normality. I repeat, we have normality. Anything you still can't cope with is therefore your own problem."
    • toshkininny
    • By toshkininny 18th Mar 18, 11:03 AM
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    That has been removed now through the HPI, as they contacted the insurance company .
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