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    • NorthernGeezer
    • By NorthernGeezer 14th Mar 18, 12:17 PM
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    State Pension Shortfall??
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    • 14th Mar 18, 12:17 PM
    State Pension Shortfall?? 14th Mar 18 at 12:17 PM
    I intend to retire at the end of April this year aged 62 and my state pension isn't due until November 2021.
    A recent state pension forecast gives me a full pension with 45 qualifying years.
    Will the fact I will no longer be making national insurance contributions effect this?
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    • Silvertabby
    • By Silvertabby 14th Mar 18, 12:29 PM
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    • 14th Mar 18, 12:29 PM
    I intend to retire at the end of April this year aged 62 and my state pension isn't due until November 2021.
    A recent state pension forecast gives me a full pension with 45 qualifying years.
    Will the fact I will no longer be making national insurance contributions effect this?
    Originally posted by NorthernGeezer
    No - you will get what you have accrued, plus cost of living increases between now and 2021.

    Just a point - have you ever been contracted out? When the DWP says 'full years', they actually mean 'full financial years' and not 'full not contracted out years'.
    • Paul_Herring
    • By Paul_Herring 14th Mar 18, 12:49 PM
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    • 14th Mar 18, 12:49 PM
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    • 14th Mar 18, 12:49 PM
    No - you will get what you have accrued, plus cost of living increases between now and 2021.

    Just a point - have you ever been contracted out? When the DWP says 'full years', they actually mean 'full financial years' and not 'full not contracted out years'.
    Originally posted by Silvertabby
    .. don't you mean 'contracted in'?
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    • GibbsRule No3
    • By GibbsRule No3 14th Mar 18, 12:55 PM
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    • 14th Mar 18, 12:55 PM
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    • 14th Mar 18, 12:55 PM
    NG does it not give two amounts if you are not going to pay NI up to 2021? I was playing with my forecast yesterday on the .GOV site, I am a female and a year older than you but it gave me the amount I can get if I pay NI until April 2019 (SP kicks in March 2020, so cannot get that year, miss it by a month!!) 144 but if I went now and did not work anymore it would be 135 when it starts on March 6th 2020. That is with 47 years. Plus a COPE amount. So I'd check the NI payment to make sure you will get the full SP.
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    • NorthernGeezer
    • By NorthernGeezer 14th Mar 18, 1:04 PM
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    • 14th Mar 18, 1:04 PM
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    • 14th Mar 18, 1:04 PM
    Need to get a new forecast I think, this ones dated March 2015
    • Silvertabby
    • By Silvertabby 14th Mar 18, 1:04 PM
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    • 14th Mar 18, 1:04 PM
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    • 14th Mar 18, 1:04 PM
    .. don't you mean 'contracted in'?
    Originally posted by Paul_Herring
    'Full not contracted out' means the same as 'Full contracted in'.

    Ie, has not contracted out of SERPS/SP2 (by joining a contracted out occupational or personal pension), so all years count towards the new single tier pension.
    • GibbsRule No3
    • By GibbsRule No3 14th Mar 18, 1:24 PM
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    • 14th Mar 18, 1:24 PM
    Need to get a new forecast I think, this ones dated March 2015
    Originally posted by NorthernGeezer
    My old paper one just had 123 so I was pleased with my new amount, I did know I would get the extra for the post 2016 years, just not sure how much it was going to be, if RPI/CPI goes up it will be more than the 144 by the time I get to March 2020. I do benefit by the new SP as I was contracted out/in. Just sign up and do it online, very easy. A P60, Passport or Payslips were asked for.
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    • NorthernGeezer
    • By NorthernGeezer 14th Mar 18, 2:11 PM
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    • 14th Mar 18, 2:11 PM
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    • 14th Mar 18, 2:11 PM
    I read somewhere that your NI contributions from 2016 are taken in to account when calculating the amount.
    • molerat
    • By molerat 14th Mar 18, 2:43 PM
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    • 14th Mar 18, 2:43 PM
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    • 14th Mar 18, 2:43 PM
    I read somewhere that your NI contributions from 2016 are taken in to account when calculating the amount.
    Originally posted by NorthernGeezer
    Only if your 2016 figure was less than 155.65.
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    • NorthernGeezer
    • By NorthernGeezer 14th Mar 18, 4:20 PM
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    Mine was above that, so it seems I've nothing to worry about.
    I've filled the form in for an update anyway.
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