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    • vorrob
    • By vorrob 14th Mar 18, 7:25 AM
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    PCN / POPLA requested but what`s next?
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    • 14th Mar 18, 7:25 AM
    PCN / POPLA requested but what`s next? 14th Mar 18 at 7:25 AM
    Hello,

    Story begins,

    Signed up for a gym, car was parked for 5 days in a row right next to it on a private parking, as it was later discovered. Apparently there was a number plate camera reader that was hard to see, as I work on nights and I was there after work from 6AM to 7AM it was quite dark when parked and was hard to see the signs (photos below), nothing was blocked and no one complained.

    As soon as I received first Notice to Keeper, car found it self a new car park 5 mins walk from the gym. I did speak to the gym manager and he told me that they have got nothing to do with that parking area unfortunately.

    Decided to wait and see if I will receive NTK for the rest of the days car was parked there. After 3 days second letter comes for the second day.

    Straight away action was taken and I wrote an appeal to them with a letter that I found here.
    Waited...
    Did not receive NTK for the rest of 3 days and it`s already 12 working days passed.
    Yesterday received a reply from the parking collection services. 2 letters - identical, for the first and second day appeal, but with different photos of my car.

    Now I received POPLA code and I have another 14 days to pay with that discounted offer.

    My question is can I get away by paying only first PCN and state that I did not know that it was a private car park until I received my first NTK? And can I send them an offer directly or shall I contact POPLA straight away instead?
    Second question, if I do have to pay them 2 occasions of PCN, where are the rest 3?

    Some attached photos bellow:
    LINKS ARE NOT ALLOWED FOR NEW USERS, PLEASE DELETE "PCN" in the link
    The fist two shows the sign when you drive into that privat car park
    httpsPCN://a.radikal.ru/a32/1803/13/1f2a06bc6b04.jpg
    httpsPCN://b.radikal.ru/b08/1803/b8/1c3a4a0b98af.jpg
    Third shows their version of the entrance, not sure when that photo was taken, but the sign is not there now!
    httpsPCN://d.radikal.ru/d31/1803/e6/d8c8ba35b821.jpg
    The rest are some photos of the sight around that area. It was snowing heavily and it was hard to see them.
    httpsPCN://d.radikal.ru/d24/1803/93/1f1d83de2712.jpg
    httpsPCN://a.radikal.ru/a34/1803/3d/05ae6734f462.jpg
    httpsPCN://d.radikal.ru/d26/1803/b2/e172e9b56832.jpg

    This is all I have, thanks for your time.
    Hope some advise will drop down.
    Kind regards,
    Rob.
    Last edited by vorrob; 14-03-2018 at 7:27 AM. Reason: paragraph
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    • fisherjim
    • By fisherjim 14th Mar 18, 8:30 AM
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    • #2
    • 14th Mar 18, 8:30 AM
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    • 14th Mar 18, 8:30 AM
    No you won't get away with making an offer they will see a sucker to hound, use your POPLA codes it costs them, and those signs are rubbish.

    There are no short cuts and no one on here is going to suggest paying these scamming Muppets.

    You need to tell us who the PPC is that is sending the charges.
    • The Deep
    • By The Deep 14th Mar 18, 9:01 AM
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    • #3
    • 14th Mar 18, 9:01 AM
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    • 14th Mar 18, 9:01 AM
    It is a scam, fight back thusly.

    This is an entirely unregulated industry which is scamming the public with inflated claims for minor breaches of contracts for alleged parking offences, aided and abetted by a handful of low-rent solicitors..

    Parking Eye, CPM, Smart, and a smaller company have already been named and shamed, as has Gladstones Solicitors, and BW Legal, (these two law firms take hundreds of these cases to court each year). They nearly always lose) and have been reported to the regulatory authority by an M.P.

    Hospital car parks and residential complex tickets have been especially mentioned.

    The problem has become so rampant that MPs have agreed to enact a Bill to regulate these scammers. Watch the video of the Second Reading in the HofC recently.

    http://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/2f0384f2-eba5-4fff-ab07-cf24b6a22918?in=12:49:41

    and complain in the most robust terms to your MP. With a fair wind most of these companies may well be put out of business by Christmas.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
    • Le_Kirk
    • By Le_Kirk 14th Mar 18, 9:41 AM
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    • 14th Mar 18, 9:41 AM
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    • 14th Mar 18, 9:41 AM
    Here are your links: -
    https: //a.radikal.ru/a32/1803/13/1f2a06bc6b04.jpg
    https: //b.radikal.ru/b08/1803/b8/1c3a4a0b98af.jpg
    https: //d.radikal.ru/d24/1803/93/1f1d83de2712.jpg
    https: //a.radikal.ru/a34/1803/3d/05ae6734f462.jpg
    https: //d.radikal.ru/d26/1803/b2/e172e9b56832.jpg


    WARNING: - There is something dodgy with them as they just come up with a lot of Greek, so I have disabled them again.
    • Fruitcake
    • By Fruitcake 14th Mar 18, 12:13 PM
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    • #5
    • 14th Mar 18, 12:13 PM
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    • 14th Mar 18, 12:13 PM
    Edit your initial post to remove information about who works shifts, and who was there.

    Only ever refer to The Driver and The Keeper, who are two different people.
    I married my cousin. I had to...
    I don't have a sister.

    All my screwdrivers are cordless.
    "You're Safety Is My Primary Concern Dear" - Laks
    • vorrob
    • By vorrob 14th Mar 18, 12:21 PM
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    • 14th Mar 18, 12:21 PM
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    • 14th Mar 18, 12:21 PM
    As I understood, I shall stop hesitating myself and appeal using POPLA code now?
    Charges are being sent by PCS Parking Collection Services parkingcls.co.uk/pay is where I have to pay

    re-uploaded those pics to another host


    Some attached photos bellow:

    The fist two shows the sign when you drive into that private car park. This is how it looks now.

    httpPCNs://ibb.co/i5CMZc
    httpPCNs://ibb.co/jyk8Ec

    Third shows their version of the entrance, not sure when that photo was taken, but the sign is now missing.

    httpPCNs://ibb.co/cx0m0H

    The rest are some photos of the sight around that area. It was snowing heavily and it was hard to see them.

    httpPCNs://ibb.co/nQcASx
    httpPCNs://ibb.co/iUNunx
    httpPCNs://ibb.co/hi2G0H

    Thanks!
    Last edited by vorrob; 14-03-2018 at 12:22 PM. Reason: links
    • Fruitcake
    • By Fruitcake 14th Mar 18, 12:25 PM
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    • #7
    • 14th Mar 18, 12:25 PM
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    • 14th Mar 18, 12:25 PM
    PoPLA codes last for about 32 days. Use that time to create draft appeal using all the relevant points from post 3 of the NEWBIES. Post your draft here for checking before you submit it.

    One appeal for each PCN/PoPLA code. These may or may not be the same depending on what the parking scammers are claiming.

    Please also complain to your MP.
    I married my cousin. I had to...
    I don't have a sister.

    All my screwdrivers are cordless.
    "You're Safety Is My Primary Concern Dear" - Laks
    • Fruitcake
    • By Fruitcake 14th Mar 18, 12:34 PM
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    • #8
    • 14th Mar 18, 12:34 PM
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    • 14th Mar 18, 12:34 PM
    That PPC name and web address look wrong to me.
    Please confirm the exact name of the PPC.

    edit.

    It's ANPR Parking Services Ltd, not Parking Collection Services. The latter are debt collectors I think..
    Last edited by Fruitcake; 14-03-2018 at 12:42 PM.
    I married my cousin. I had to...
    I don't have a sister.

    All my screwdrivers are cordless.
    "You're Safety Is My Primary Concern Dear" - Laks
    • Fruitcake
    • By Fruitcake 14th Mar 18, 12:35 PM
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    • 14th Mar 18, 12:35 PM
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    • 14th Mar 18, 12:35 PM
    As I understood, I shall stop hesitating myself and appeal using POPLA code now?
    Charges are being sent by PCS Parking Collection Services parkingcls.co.uk/pay is where I have to pay

    re-uploaded those pics to another host


    Some attached photos bellow:

    The fist two shows the sign when you drive into that private car park. This is how it looks now.

    httpPCNs://ibb.co/i5CMZc
    httpPCNs://ibb.co/jyk8Ec

    Third shows their version of the entrance, not sure when that photo was taken, but the sign is now missing.

    httpPCNs://ibb.co/cx0m0H

    The rest are some photos of the sight around that area. It was snowing heavily and it was hard to see them.

    httpPCNs://ibb.co/nQcASx
    httpPCNs://ibb.co/iUNunx
    httpPCNs://ibb.co/hi2G0H

    Thanks!
    Originally posted by vorrob
    The fist two shows the sign when you drive into that private car park. This is how it looks now.

    https://ibb.co/i5CMZc Haha, that's a corker.
    https://ibb.co/jyk8Ec

    Third shows their version of the entrance, not sure when that photo was taken, but the sign is now missing.

    https://ibb.co/cx0m0H That looks "forbidding" to me.

    The rest are some photos of the sight around that area. It was snowing heavily and it was hard to see them.

    https://ibb.co/nQcASx
    https://ibb.co/iUNunx
    https://ibb.co/hi2G0H All look totally inadequate to me.
    Last edited by Fruitcake; 14-03-2018 at 12:39 PM.
    I married my cousin. I had to...
    I don't have a sister.

    All my screwdrivers are cordless.
    "You're Safety Is My Primary Concern Dear" - Laks
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