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    • Deastons
    • By Deastons 12th Mar 18, 1:26 PM
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    Jamie Carragher in trouble for spitting
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    • 12th Mar 18, 1:26 PM
    Jamie Carragher in trouble for spitting 12th Mar 18 at 1:26 PM
    But what's worse? Spitting or using your mobile phone while driving?

    No-one seems to be having a go at the guy who was filming Carragher on his mobile phone while he was driving and clearly not giving the road his full attention.
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    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 12th Mar 18, 5:40 PM
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    Why would I get six points for touching my phone while it's in its holder
    Originally posted by Deastons
    You wouldn't, since it isn't hand-held if it's in a holder.
    • Deastons
    • By Deastons 12th Mar 18, 5:41 PM
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    Top two "Most Watched" stories on BBC News right now are:

    1. Jamie Carragher caught on camera 'spitting' from his car
    2. Drivers filmed using phones at the wheel
    • Deastons
    • By Deastons 12th Mar 18, 5:43 PM
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    You wouldn't, since it isn't hand-held if it's in a holder.
    Originally posted by AdrianC
    I beg your pardon - I thought you weren't even allowed to touch a phone while it's in its holder.
    • AndyMc.....
    • By AndyMc..... 12th Mar 18, 5:51 PM
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    I beg your pardon - I thought you weren't even allowed to touch a phone while it's in its holder.
    Originally posted by Deastons
    Youíre not allowed to used a hand held mobile device while driving. As youíve been told itís no longer hand held if itís in a holder.
    • d123
    • By d123 12th Mar 18, 6:36 PM
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    I beg your pardon - I thought you weren't even allowed to touch a phone while it's in its holder.
    Originally posted by Deastons
    Regulation 110 (1) and (2) prohibits a person from driving, or causing or permitting a person to drive, a motor vehicle on a road if the driver is using a held-hand mobile telephone or a hand-held device.

    Regulation 110 (3) prohibits a person from using a hand-held mobile telephone or hand-held device while supervising a holder of a provisional license ( learner driver) whilst the learner is driving.

    Terms of note:

    Hand-held / Hand-held mobile phone
    Regulation 110 (6)(a) states that a mobile phone or device is to be treated as hand-held if it is, or must be, held at some point during the course of making or receiving a call, or performing any other interactive communication function.

    The term "mobile phone" will cover cell-phones and smart phones.
    https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/road-traffic-offences-mobile-phones
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    • Deastons
    • By Deastons 12th Mar 18, 7:48 PM
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    Youíre not allowed to used a hand held mobile device while driving. As youíve been told itís no longer hand held if itís in a holder.
    Originally posted by AndyMc.....
    Yes. I get that now. Which is why I said "I beg your pardon" to AdrianC. But thanks for repeating exactly what he said and then having a go at me for no apparent reason.
    • Car 54
    • By Car 54 12th Mar 18, 7:54 PM
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    So what could he expect for a not altogether unprovoked spitting episode? (assuming he wasn't a known figure)

    I'm guessing, for using his phone while driving, the guy filming should get six points and a fine? Although don't get me started on that. Why would I get six points for touching my phone while it's in its holder, but not for touching the touchscreen of my car?
    Originally posted by Deastons
    I'm not sure what your question has to do with my post, but however ....

    Touching your phone in its holder is not (in itself) an offence. The only way you'd get six points is using a HAND-HELD device.
    • Joe Horner
    • By Joe Horner 12th Mar 18, 8:12 PM
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    I'm not sure what your question has to do with my post, but however ....

    Touching your phone in its holder is not (in itself) an offence. The only way you'd get six points is using a HAND-HELD device.
    Originally posted by Car 54
    Yep, even having it lying on the passenger seat and turning round to look at it as you prod the touchscreen to answer a text message doesn't fall foul of the mobile law. It could well be careless, or even dangerous, driving though as falling wayyyyyy below the standards of an average driver!
    • Mercdriver
    • By Mercdriver 13th Mar 18, 2:27 AM
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    Yes. I get that now. Which is why I said "I beg your pardon" to AdrianC. But thanks for repeating exactly what he said and then having a go at me for no apparent reason.
    Originally posted by Deastons
    Since your reply to AdrianC can be seen in two completely opposite contexts you could have been clearer. "I beg your pardon" can be used as an apology or an expression of indignation. Your intentions with your comment was a little unclear.
    • Mee
    • By Mee 13th Mar 18, 5:08 PM
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    What did mum have to say
    I wonder what the driver's partner/mother of daughter did when he got home - gave him a Paddington stare, or said something like WTF did you think you were doing...?
    • Deastons
    • By Deastons 13th Mar 18, 7:35 PM
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43387013

    Well, there you go.
    • neilmcl
    • By neilmcl 13th Mar 18, 8:19 PM
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    Originally posted by Deastons
    There you go what?

    It simply states the police have been contact with the driver, doesn't state whether they are merely contacting him as a witness to the spitting incident or whether it was for using his phone whilst driving.
    • Deastons
    • By Deastons 13th Mar 18, 9:09 PM
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    doesn't state whether they are merely contacting him as a witness to the spitting incident or whether it was for using his phone whilst driving.
    Originally posted by neilmcl
    Erm... yes it does.

    "...it is understood both Carragher's actions and the filming of the incident while driving could be punishable."
    • Mercdriver
    • By Mercdriver 13th Mar 18, 9:44 PM
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    Erm... yes it does.

    "...it is understood both Carragher's actions and the filming of the incident while driving could be punishable."
    Originally posted by Deastons

    Bollards. That's just the reporter surmising. They don't actually know what the police's intentions are. They are just doing what you are doing - assuming. Assumptions based on assumptions don't make the assumptions more convincing.
    • cjdavies
    • By cjdavies 13th Mar 18, 10:23 PM
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    What is worse is if he doesn't get sacked from sky sports.
    • Mercdriver
    • By Mercdriver 14th Mar 18, 12:21 PM
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    What is worse is if he doesn't get sacked from sky sports.
    Originally posted by cjdavies
    He has been suspended for the remainder of the season
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