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    • TyreLever
    • By TyreLever 12th Mar 18, 3:45 AM
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    Can people really take time off work for "stress"?
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    • 12th Mar 18, 3:45 AM
    Can people really take time off work for "stress"? 12th Mar 18 at 3:45 AM
    Work is naturally stressful and I hear of people taking time off work for stress. Stress alone doesnt sound like a valid reason, if I phoned in work and said I wouldnt be in because I feel stressed, I know where I'd be told to get off (the jobcentre). How do people get long term sick pay for stress? Is our nation becoming intolerably weak?
    Sometimes my advice may not be great, but I'm not perfect and I do try my best. Please take this into account.
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    • andydownes123
    • By andydownes123 30th Jul 18, 2:11 PM
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    Check out the Yerkes-Dodson law...stress is important. When there's too much, it becomes a problem.
    • antonic
    • By antonic 30th Jul 18, 4:14 PM
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    As someone who was driven to the brink of suicide by stress (by throwing myself under a train) caused by a manager, its all to real.
    I was lucky and came through the other side and made it back to full time employment after 6 months off with stress.
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    • clairebearpr
    • By clairebearpr 12th Jan 19, 2:58 AM
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    Agree totally tizerbelle. I think you've summed the current situation up beautifully. It's like people claiming to be traumatised because the latest Boy Band has broken up! There are people genuinely suffering from depression, stress, PTSD etc who are getting lumped in with the 'snowflakes'.
    Originally posted by TELLIT01
    See, I think your wrong. Imagine you're a teenager, maybe you're being bullied. Maybe you feel alone and this BAND makes you feel less sad and lonely. Imagine liking a boy band, listening to their music makes you feel happier for a little while. You enjoy listening to interviews , looking them up etc. They are the one thing you FEEL you can look forward to. Now imagine that being taken away. It can be traumatising, for some people a Band or tv show or book series can feel like a security blanket. Not everyone KNOWS how to deal with stress or anxiety or depression so they focus on something that makes them feel better. It might not be healthy but it may be the ONLY way they know how to cope at the moment. And yes, this can be the same way for adults also, we develop crutches that may seem stupid and trivial, sometimes they are but like you say, some people don't know how to deal with trauma. So, they bury it and cover it with these trivial things. If these little things are taken it can be the last drop in a glass that causes it to overflow.
    Last edited by clairebearpr; 12-01-2019 at 2:59 AM. Reason: missed a word
    • Fireflyaway
    • By Fireflyaway 12th Jan 19, 10:24 AM
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    I have to admit as a manager I used to be skeptical about stress. Same with depression and anxiety. Reason being some people will falsely claim they have these conditions to get time off sick. No blood test or scan will reveal these conditions so they are easy to fake.

    Having now experienced work related stress I can tell you it certainly can be real. Due to bullying from a manager my stress began to have physical symptoms. Headaches, sickness, Racing heart, dizziness and being unable to sleep or think clearly. I've worked since the age of 16 and I'm nearly 40. Never felt that way before even though I've worked with difficult people and in difficult circumstances. I wouldn't say I'm particularly emotional and ive been praised for my resilience and strong work ethic. However there is only so much someone can take!

    A bit of stress is normal but there is a difference in having a stressful day and actually suffering from stress. Just like someone casually says ' I'm so depressed, I put on a pound this week'. Obviously that's not real depression.

    Keep an open mind. There will always be fakers out there but anyone can suffer stress at some point. It's very real and very unpleasant. Someone in a bad place could really do with a smile or an invite for coffee etc. It could literally save someone.
    Last edited by Fireflyaway; 12-01-2019 at 10:25 AM. Reason: T
    • elsien
    • By elsien 12th Jan 19, 10:28 AM
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    Out of interest, just wondering why you searched the forum to resurrect a thread which was last active in July for your first post?
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    • FBaby
    • By FBaby 12th Jan 19, 10:36 AM
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    It's a very difficult line. I've experience stressed in my life for about 25 years. A lot of it, I managed it because it made me resilient. I've seen people going off sick stressed when their level of stress didn't reach half mine. Resilience has of course a lot to do with it.

    However, like Firefly, it reached a point when it just got too much. No one denied that I wasn't under unmanageable amount fo stress, everyone felt sorry for me, but nothing was done assuming I'll manage as I always did. This time, it turned physical, exactly as you des ribd Firefly.

    It was my clue to do something drastic. I did and 1 year on, my life has never been so unstressful. It should be great but it isn't because its left some damage that I'm really struggling to undo. I am still always tense, on the edge, I still don't sleep well, and just can't seem to relax.

    So sadly, it's not just about the intensity but also the prolonged effect.

    I do get cross with some people whose resilience lelves are almost non existent, but at the same time, I see some people who I keep going and are on a bomb timer and it's very sad.
    • Mrs_Ryan
    • By Mrs_Ryan 14th Jan 19, 2:00 AM
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    Iíve just gone back to work after 4 weeks off with work related stress/depression. I cried myself to sleep every night before work as I didnít want to go in. The trigger for me being signed off was crying solidly between leaving work on the Saturday at 1pm until bedtime on the Monday. As I have other physical issues which are exacerbated by high emotion I was quite unwell after that.
    My manager thinks sheís my best friend but in fact sheís the cause of my stress/depression. Sheís been off sick last week and it has been absolute bliss. However she is now back and I could already feel my hackles rising when I got her email this afternoon- I canít be bothered at the moment as Iíve got a lot on my plate right now so if she starts on me tomorrow I will just walk out. She knows I have a personality disorder and not to push me but she doesnít seem to believe this (sheís got a bad rep from her previous workplace as well as there are people who work with me who know her) and seems hell bent on winding me up. I donít wish to blow at work but sheís really getting on my nerves.
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