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    • Dirty_Berty
    • By Dirty_Berty 11th Mar 18, 12:37 AM
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    Basic loft conversion - office
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    • 11th Mar 18, 12:37 AM
    Basic loft conversion - office 11th Mar 18 at 12:37 AM
    Hi hoping to get some help and advice.

    I currently live in a very small 1 bedroom house with my girlfriend and have started a new job that involves working from home 2/3 days a week.

    I wanted to look to creating an office / man cave in the loft in order to give me somewhere to work during the day and perhaps chill out in for the odd evening.

    Having researched a lot of websites and apart from getting more confused, it seems that this might be harder and more expensive than Id thought.

    1. Do I need to reinforce or get a new floor fitted that can take the weight?

    2. Will a pull down ladder / folding staircase be okay? And does this cause issues with building regulations?

    3. What is the legal minimum I need to do in order to call it an office and use it regularly? Permanent stairs? New joists and floor? At least 1 window?

    4. My max budget is 10k but the house is small (22sm). Is this possible do you think? Im good at DIY and refurbished the house a couple of years ago when I bought it. I probably just need professionals to do the new stronger floor, window, stairs etc. All other decorating, plastering, etc I can do myself.

    Can you please help me understand my options
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    • sevenhills
    • By sevenhills 11th Mar 18, 10:46 PM
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    We had this whole exact conversation last year. Why is it happening again? You're just confusing the OP.
    Originally posted by Doozergirl
    If no one mentioned chimneys or boilers, the OP might not think about it, posts and discussion give the OP more information for him to think about.
    Last edited by sevenhills; 11-03-2018 at 10:49 PM.

    • Doozergirl
    • By Doozergirl 11th Mar 18, 11:03 PM
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    If no one mentioned chimneys or boilers, the OP might not think about it, posts and discussion give the OP more information for him to think about.
    Originally posted by sevenhills
    But the OP might also think it costs 450 to remove an integral part of the house. Best to leave it to architects and structural engineers, not dubious "loft conversion specialists"
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    • Pa Ja
    • By Pa Ja 14th Mar 18, 8:38 PM
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    If it were me, I'd go with the pimped up loft space and forget building regs. Whether it be a narrow staircase to the attic or a pull down ladder...
    A reputable joiner would be able to give you a quote. I follow several on social media and its amazing seeing the transformation.
    If you sell I'd anticipate you to see a return on this space whereas if you go down building regulations path, it'll cost you an arm and a leg.
    It would obviously still be considered a 1 bed apartment but potential buyers will definitely love there is attic space that can be utilzed.
    • Doozergirl
    • By Doozergirl 14th Mar 18, 8:43 PM
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    No one reputable does anything that isn't to Building Regulations standards.
    Everything that is supposed to be in heaven is already here on earth.
    • Furts
    • By Furts 14th Mar 18, 8:59 PM
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    If it were me, I'd go with the pimped up loft space and forget building regs. Whether it be a narrow staircase to the attic or a pull down ladder...
    A reputable joiner would be able to give you a quote. I follow several on social media and its amazing seeing the transformation.
    If you sell I'd anticipate you to see a return on this space whereas if you go down building regulations path, it'll cost you an arm and a leg.
    It would obviously still be considered a 1 bed apartment but potential buyers will definitely love there is attic space that can be utilzed.
    Originally posted by Pa Ja
    We have consumer protection, we have controls like Planning and Buildings Regulations yet still there is no answer to outright ignorance like this.

    Who cares about safety, who cares about insulation, who cares about burning to death, who cares if the loft caves in? When there are folks like Pa Ja around then one gets a jolt and realises society has dumbed down in the pursuit of greed and to hell with everybody else.
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 15th Mar 18, 8:29 AM
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    It would obviously still be considered a 1 bed apartment but potential buyers will definitely love there is attic space that can be utilzed.
    Originally posted by Pa Ja
    ..... Which means they and their lender won't pay for it and it'll be lost money in the end.

    But I have doubts that if the whole property has a smaller footprint than my conservatory, there is much chance of anything other than a bodge-up, given that a compliant staircase takes up space and could adversely affect another area of the house.
    'It's a terrible thing to wait until you're ready..Generally speaking, now is as good a time as any.' Hugh Lawrie.
    • Furts
    • By Furts 15th Mar 18, 1:08 PM
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    ..... Which means they and their lender won't pay for it and it'll be lost money in the end.

    But I have doubts that if the whole property has a smaller footprint than my conservatory, there is much chance of anything other than a bodge-up, given that a compliant staircase takes up space and could adversely affect another area of the house.
    Originally posted by Davesnave

    Plus something that will gradually dawn on folks. Grenfell Towers was a disaster, and those in the construction industry with some experience know a little of all this. Suffice to say fire safety is going to get more stringent. Drip feeding news today and it is brought to the public attention problems with "Fire doors".


    There will be an all round tightening up, which will include loft conversions. These may comply now, or people may turn a blind eye now to non compliance, but spool forward a few years and attitudes are likely to be different.
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