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    • fluke13
    • By fluke13 10th Mar 18, 5:10 PM
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    ESA timescale
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    ESA timescale 10th Mar 18 at 5:10 PM
    I receive ESA support group,NI credits only so i don't receive any money. Do they get in touch when it is nearing the end of the award? I have heard nothing since being awarded in April 2016.
    I'll phone next week just wondering if you guys know.
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    • poppy12345
    • By poppy12345 10th Mar 18, 5:20 PM
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    I receive ESA support group,NI credits only so i don't receive any money. Do they get in touch when it is nearing the end of the award? I have heard nothing since being awarded in April 2016.
    I'll phone next week just wondering if you guys know.
    Originally posted by fluke13
    If you haven't heard anything then don't worry. 2 years isn't that long. Lots of other people have gone a lot longer than that. They very often go over the time stated.

    When they do send you that ESA50 form then more evidence will be needed and possibly another assessment. I'd leave well alone and not ring them.
    • TELLIT01
    • By TELLIT01 10th Mar 18, 5:51 PM
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    Totally agree with poppy12345. Don't call them, they will contact you if they want to reassess you. You have absolutely nothing to gain by being reassessed, but possibly much to lose. It's far from unknown for somebody whose condition has not improved to suddenly be told they are either being moved to the WRAG or are now fit for work.
    • epitome
    • By epitome 10th Mar 18, 5:54 PM
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    I disagree, phone them and ask for the exact date re-assessment will begin. See the other thread you replied to.

    Did you originally get 1 year of contributory payments? Again see the other thread about ESA after 12 months.
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    • By Nannytone 10th Mar 18, 6:06 PM
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    I had my first assessment in October 2011 and wasn't reassessed again until June 2017.
    It really all depends on how busy your area is/B]
    • celinepatricia
    • By celinepatricia 10th Mar 18, 6:11 PM
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    I have been on assessment rate since November 1st last year and not had an assessment yet. Is this normal?
    • poppy12345
    • By poppy12345 10th Mar 18, 6:12 PM
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    I have been on assessment rate since November 1st last year and not had an assessment yet. Is this normal?
    Originally posted by celinepatricia
    Yes, perfectly normal. Some are waiting a year. It all depends on backlog in your area.
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    • By TELLIT01 10th Mar 18, 8:33 PM
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    Did you originally get 1 year of contributory payments? Again see the other thread about ESA after 12 months.
    Originally posted by epitome
    The OP says they are in the Support Group and only receive NI credits. That suggests they have pension income so may well not have been entitled to payment even in the first 12 months.

    What possible benefit is there to the OP by chasing a reassessment?
    • epitome
    • By epitome 10th Mar 18, 9:08 PM
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    The OP says they are in the Support Group and only receive NI credits. That suggests they have pension income so may well not have been entitled to payment even in the first 12 months.
    Originally posted by TELLIT01
    I missed that.

    What possible benefit is there to the OP by chasing a reassessment?
    The benefit is they will know when to expect their reassessment process to begin so they can mark it on a calendar or create an reminder on their computer.

    So they can phone ESA if the ESA50 does not arrive.
    • poppy12345
    • By poppy12345 10th Mar 18, 10:28 PM
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    The benefit is they will know when to expect their reassessment process to begin so they can mark it on a calendar or create an reminder on their computer.

    So they can phone ESA if the ESA50 does not arrive.
    Originally posted by epitome
    Honestly, why would anyone want to do that for? Those of use who claim these benefits have a hard enough time without marking the re-assessment date on the calendar. I've never heard of such nonsense. I'm sorry but i totally disagree with you.
    • TELLIT01
    • By TELLIT01 10th Mar 18, 11:14 PM
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    I missed that.


    The benefit is they will know when to expect their reassessment process to begin so they can mark it on a calendar or create an reminder on their computer.

    So they can phone ESA if the ESA50 does not arrive.
    Originally posted by epitome
    I'm with poppy on this one. The OP will continue to get their NI credits until and unless ESA get round to calling them back in for reassessment. History suggests that may be much further down the line than the 2 or 3 years they were told would be the case. The OP is doing absolutely nothing wrong by not chasing or reminding ESA of their own system failings and can simply get on with their life.
    I stick with my previous advice to the OP which is to take no action as there is absolutely no benefit to them in chasing a reassessment.
    • fluke13
    • By fluke13 11th Mar 18, 8:51 AM
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    I disagree, phone them and ask for the exact date re-assessment will begin. See the other thread you replied to.

    Did you originally get 1 year of contributory payments? Again see the other thread about ESA after 12 months.
    Originally posted by epitome


    They said the award was for 18 months. just wondered if it was different because its a credit only claim and no money is paid to me.
    • fluke13
    • By fluke13 11th Mar 18, 8:53 AM
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    The OP says they are in the Support Group and only receive NI credits. That suggests they have pension income so may well not have been entitled to payment even in the first 12 months.

    What possible benefit is there to the OP by chasing a reassessment?
    Originally posted by TELLIT01


    I'm only 43 so I don't have a pension income. I hadn't worked for nearly 2 years prior to claiming so I wasn't entitled to payment only NI credits (which I'm very grateful for)
    • TELLIT01
    • By TELLIT01 11th Mar 18, 9:33 AM
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    I'm only 43 so I don't have a pension income. I hadn't worked for nearly 2 years prior to claiming so I wasn't entitled to payment only NI credits (which I'm very grateful for)
    Originally posted by fluke13
    You haven't mentioned having a partner, but I assume you must have one if you have no entitlement to Income Related benefit. Either that or you have savings in excess of 16k.
    • epitome
    • By epitome 11th Mar 18, 10:23 AM
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    Honestly, why would anyone want to do that for? Those of use who claim these benefits have a hard enough time without marking the re-assessment date on the calendar. I've never heard of such nonsense. I'm sorry but I totally disagree with you.
    Originally posted by poppy12345
    I'm with poppy on this one. The OP will continue to get their NI credits until and unless ESA get round to calling them back in for reassessment. History suggests that may be much further down the line than the 2 or 3 years they were told would be the case. The OP is doing absolutely nothing wrong by not chasing or reminding ESA of their own system failings and can simply get on with their life.
    I stick with my previous advice to the OP which is to take no action as there is absolutely no benefit to them in chasing a reassessment.
    Originally posted by TELLIT01
    I didn't say the OP should "chase" a reassessment (i.e. say they want it done ASAP). I said OP should ask what date has been set by the DWP for a reassessment to begin..or if it has begun already and he does not know about it.

    They said the award was for 18 months. just wondered if it was different because its a credit only claim and no money is paid to me.
    Originally posted by fluke13
    Have you guys even read the reply I gave to Fluke on the other thread?
    many ESA claimants have woken up one day to find that their ESA is closed for FTRQ or FTAWCA of those over 50% will fail to get good cause allowed and in the case of FTRQ will lose potentially up to 3 months of ESA and in the case of FTA will lose potentially up to 1 year or more of ESA.

    I can show you at least 2 threads on this forum where one guy had exactly this problem....and luckily I got it fixed for him because he followed my advice to the letter. And the other one was a guy who wanted to take his claimant-son on holiday "in 2 weeks time" I told him "before you go, phone ATOS to check if there is a live referral. and to tell them of his non available period"

    His reply was "I check all of his post and I know there is no current medical re-assessment at this time". I told him I have seen it too many times and he really should take 5 mins out of his time to phone them.
    He came back and said he had phoned them and was told his son has a medical assessment appointment just in the week they are booked to go away on holiday. He had not received the ESA50 or the reminder, or the appointment letter. Had he not come here and had I not replied to him he would have come back from holiday (after the advice on this forum he had received that "Yes 2 weeks will be no problem") to find his son's claim was closed.

    So I always advise people when the subject comes up, to ask DWP what exact date their WCA is due to begin again. Because forewarned is forearmed and the info is in screen 791 if the person does not know where to look for it.


    "DWP failings" it probably is, but you try telling that to a decision maker who has closed your claim....good luck with that!

    I'm only 43 so I don't have a pension income. I hadn't worked for nearly 2 years prior to claiming so I wasn't entitled to payment only NI credits (which I'm very grateful for)
    Originally posted by fluke13
    So NI credits are important to you. If your claim gets closed for more than 2 weeks in a year that whole year will be lost for NI Credit - pension/benefit purposes. Phone DWP and ask what I replied in the other thread.
    Last edited by epitome; 13-03-2018 at 9:05 AM.
    • fluke13
    • By fluke13 11th Mar 18, 11:09 AM
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    You haven't mentioned having a partner, but I assume you must have one if you have no entitlement to Income Related benefit. Either that or you have savings in excess of 16k.
    Originally posted by TELLIT01


    Sorry, yes i have a partner. Just found the letter and it say that I was put in the support group from 12/05/16 for 18 months, claim start date was 16/11/15.
    Does the 18 months go from the claim start date or from the date that I was put in the support group.
    Last edited by fluke13; 11-03-2018 at 11:22 AM.
    • epitome
    • By epitome 11th Mar 18, 11:51 AM
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    Sorry, yes i have a partner. Just found the letter and it say that I was put in the support group from 12/05/16 for 18 months, claim start date was 16/11/15.
    Does the 18 months go from the claim start date or from the date that I was put in the support group.
    Originally posted by fluke13
    It's usually from the date of the assessment or the assessment report, if you did not have to attend.

    You would have been put in Support Grp from about 16th February 2016 (92 days after start of claim) not 12/05/16.
    Last edited by epitome; 11-03-2018 at 11:53 AM.
    • TELLIT01
    • By TELLIT01 11th Mar 18, 12:44 PM
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    Sorry, yes i have a partner.
    Originally posted by fluke13
    So I assume it's either partner earnings or working hours which prevents any cash entitlement. If your partners earnings or hours have dropped since your initial claim please let us know the current work situation.
    • fluke13
    • By fluke13 11th Mar 18, 1:35 PM
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    So I assume it's either partner earnings or working hours which prevents any cash entitlement. If your partners earnings or hours have dropped since your initial claim please let us know the current work situation.
    Originally posted by TELLIT01


    Partner works 40 hours a week and earnings haven't gone down.
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