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    • TedTrippin
    • By TedTrippin 9th Mar 18, 12:28 PM
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    divorce - pre-marital assets and moving out half w
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    divorce - pre-marital assets and moving out half w 9th Mar 18 at 12:28 PM
    Hi,

    Anyone know where I stand on pre-marital assets (ISA's, shares, etc.)? It's my understanding that these things, I was gifted and have never accessed during our time together, can not be considered in a divorce.

    Also, pensions... I know they may take into consideration time co-habiting, not just marriage. Thing is, due to really crazy post natal depression I got kicked out our rented flat! I rented elsewhere, for a couple of years, and gave her money, all arranged between ourselves. Will the courts consider anything before we got back together?

    Thanks.
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    • Comms69
    • By Comms69 9th Mar 18, 1:07 PM
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    It depends almost completely on the length of marriage.
    • TedTrippin
    • By TedTrippin 9th Mar 18, 2:05 PM
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    We've only been married 4 years. And it was 5 years previous to that we got back together.
    • Pricivius
    • By Pricivius 9th Mar 18, 2:21 PM
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    It would be helpful if you set out:


    - when did you get together
    - when did you move in together
    - when did you marry
    - when did you separate
    - when did you get back together
    - when did you separate aain
    • Comms69
    • By Comms69 9th Mar 18, 2:27 PM
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    • 9th Mar 18, 2:27 PM
    It would be helpful if you set out:


    - when did you get together
    - when did you move in together
    - when did you marry
    - when did you separate
    - when did you get back together
    - when did you separate aain
    Originally posted by Pricivius
    Indeed, it seems that since the first separation it's 9 years, but it's not clear.
    • TedTrippin
    • By TedTrippin 9th Mar 18, 2:44 PM
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    together 2003
    moved in 2004
    moved out early 2006
    moved back in mid 2007
    married end of 2013
    divorcing right now!
    • Comms69
    • By Comms69 9th Mar 18, 2:45 PM
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    so almost 11 years living together continuously.


    The starting point will be 50/50 on all assets.


    Have you go kids?
    • Gloomendoom
    • By Gloomendoom 9th Mar 18, 2:47 PM
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    It depends almost completely on the length of marriage.
    Originally posted by Comms69
    Children can complicate matters.
    Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain
    • TedTrippin
    • By TedTrippin 9th Mar 18, 3:33 PM
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    2 kids, born 2005 and 2009.
    • Comms69
    • By Comms69 9th Mar 18, 3:44 PM
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    2 kids, born 2005 and 2009.
    Originally posted by TedTrippin
    who will be looking after them?
    • TedTrippin
    • By TedTrippin 9th Mar 18, 3:47 PM
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    me 3 nights, her the rest.

    I know children affect equity in house and maintenance but my question is about pre-marital things and whether or not the courts take into consideration having a child when not co-habiting. And when considering pension sharing, if they will take into account pre-2007 when I didn't co-habit.
    • Comms69
    • By Comms69 9th Mar 18, 3:54 PM
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    me 3 nights, her the rest.

    I know children affect equity in house and maintenance but my question is about pre-marital things and whether or not the courts take into consideration having a child when not co-habiting. And when considering pension sharing, if they will take into account pre-2007 when I didn't co-habit.
    Originally posted by TedTrippin

    You're way past that now. It all counts.
    • davidwood681
    • By davidwood681 9th Mar 18, 4:35 PM
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    If you're going for close to 50% custody you shouldn't be paying her much anyway
    • TedTrippin
    • By TedTrippin 9th Mar 18, 5:57 PM
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    You're way past that now. It all counts.
    Originally posted by Comms69
    So she's made my life hell and now she's going to make my old age miserable. yay
    • Gloomendoom
    • By Gloomendoom 9th Mar 18, 7:21 PM
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    So she's made my life hell and now she's going to make my old age miserable. yay
    Originally posted by TedTrippin
    Just give her whatever she wants and move on. Believe me, it will be a lot less stress in the long run.
    Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain
    • Comms69
    • By Comms69 12th Mar 18, 9:30 AM
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    So she's made my life hell and now she's going to make my old age miserable. yay
    Originally posted by TedTrippin


    Not being funny, but you chose her.


    In any case, just speak to a solicitor
    • TedTrippin
    • By TedTrippin 19th Mar 18, 12:01 PM
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    Not being funny, but you chose her.


    In any case, just speak to a solicitor
    Originally posted by Comms69
    Wow! So helpful.

    And to be clear, NO I didn't choose her. I chose the funny, cheerful, lovely little lady I met. NOT the devious, conceited person she became.
    • Comms69
    • By Comms69 19th Mar 18, 12:09 PM
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    Wow! So helpful.

    And to be clear, NO I didn't choose her. I chose the funny, cheerful, lovely little lady I met. NOT the devious, conceited person she became.
    Originally posted by TedTrippin


    I doubt she became that overnight...


    Relationships fail, people change - you chose to get married. This is part of it in 42% of cases!
    • TedTrippin
    • By TedTrippin 19th Mar 18, 12:39 PM
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    I doubt she became that overnight...


    Relationships fail, people change - you chose to get married. This is part of it in 42% of cases!
    Originally posted by Comms69
    No, took years.

    Thanks for that insight, now I know your advice is useless.
    • anna_1977
    • By anna_1977 19th Mar 18, 12:45 PM
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    Comms69 - not overly helpful comments. People change - sadly this often results in the breakdown of relationships.
    I'm assuming it's not at all amicable? I think you need to get some legal advice, a lot of solicitors have a free 30 minute consultation which may help.
    My understanding is that she is entitled to pension etc. depends how unpleasant she wants to get.

    As someone pointed out. if you're having pretty much 50% custody make sure you are only paying the recommended CMA amount. You do need to provide for the kids when they are with you

    Good luck, i hope it works out not too painful for you - divorce and money are hideous!
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