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    • d123
    • By d123 7th Mar 18, 4:11 PM
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    OFCOM to investigate Three UK and Vodafone
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    • 7th Mar 18, 4:11 PM
    OFCOM to investigate Three UK and Vodafone 7th Mar 18 at 4:11 PM
    Three and Vodafone are to be investigated by OFCOM.

    The Three investigation is quite interesting, in that one breach relates to Three not allowing tethering on all price plans (the Essential plans) and restrictions on using a handset sim in a tablet or dongle.

    Following an assessment of evidence gathered under this enforcement programme, Ofcom has decided to open investigations into Hutchison 3G UK Limited (Three) and Vodafone Limited (Vodafone) to assess their compliance with the EU Open Internet Access Regulation 2015 .

    The investigations will examine the following:

    Threes practices of:

    Restricting tethering, the practice of using one device to connect another one to the internet - on certain plans offered by Three;
    Imposing restrictions on the devices in which a SIM can be used e.g. where a SIM purchased for a mobile phone cannot be used in a tablet; and
    Traffic management practices such as throttling or intentionally slowing down particular categories of traffic (e.g. video traffic, Peer-to-Peer and Virtual Private Network traffic), including where traffic management is applied when customers are roaming.


    In relation to Vodafone:

    Traffic management practices relating to Vodafone Passes e.g. throttling particular categories of traffic; including where traffic management is applied when customers are roaming; and
    The transparency of exceptions to zero rating within the Vodafone Passes products, which mean that certain functions within certain zero-rated applications will use customers general data allowance and not be zero-rated.
    https://www.ofcom.org.uk/about-ofcom/latest/bulletins/competition-bulletins/open-cases/cw_01210
    Last edited by d123; 07-03-2018 at 4:13 PM. Reason: Removing MSE forum bug in punctuation !!!8217!;
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    • boatman
    • By boatman 7th Mar 18, 5:40 PM
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    Should be investigating Vodafone for just being appalling at everything.
    • Exemplar
    • By Exemplar 7th Mar 18, 9:36 PM
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    • 7th Mar 18, 9:36 PM
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    • 7th Mar 18, 9:36 PM
    Fact: If you don't like a tariff don't sign up to it.

    It's their train set choo choo
    'Just because its on the internet don't believe it 100%'. Abraham Lincoln.
    • Frozen_up_north
    • By Frozen_up_north 8th Mar 18, 7:03 AM
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    • 8th Mar 18, 7:03 AM
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    • 8th Mar 18, 7:03 AM
    Not all providers allow tethering, Virgin for example. So why pick on Three?
    • pmduk
    • By pmduk 8th Mar 18, 7:44 AM
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    • 8th Mar 18, 7:44 AM
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    • 8th Mar 18, 7:44 AM
    It's probably Three's size and the fact they've challenged the status quo (re spectrum sharing) that has brought them within this review. Virgin has too small a share of the market to matter much.
    • d123
    • By d123 8th Mar 18, 11:10 AM
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    • 8th Mar 18, 11:10 AM
    Not all providers allow tethering, Virgin for example. So why pick on Three?
    Originally posted by Frozen_up_north
    My only thought would be that Virgin doesn't officially allow tethering at all (so, a business decision) while Three allows tethering on some price plans but not others, so a restriction to those customers.

    Though it's only an investigation at this stage, OFCOM could well decide paying extra for tethering is ok.
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    • d123
    • By d123 8th Mar 18, 11:11 AM
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    • 8th Mar 18, 11:11 AM
    Fact: If you don't like a tariff don't sign up to it.

    It's their train set choo choo
    Originally posted by Exemplar
    Except the Fat Controller (OFCOM) actually decides who's train sets can be on the rails and how you can play with the train set...

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    • boatman
    • By boatman 8th Mar 18, 3:41 PM
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    • 8th Mar 18, 3:41 PM
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    • 8th Mar 18, 3:41 PM
    Except the Fat Controller (OFCOM) actually decides who's train sets can be on the rails and how you can play with the train set...

    Originally posted by d123
    And doesn't have lights and barriers on the level crossings...
    • esuhl
    • By esuhl 8th Mar 18, 4:58 PM
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    Fact: If you don't like a tariff don't sign up to it.
    Originally posted by Exemplar
    What a bizarre use of the word "fact"!
    • Exemplar
    • By Exemplar 9th Mar 18, 1:06 PM
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    What a bizarre use of the word "fact"!
    Originally posted by esuhl
    Fact: I was extremely drunk when I wrote that.

    Errors and omissions will occur!
    'Just because its on the internet don't believe it 100%'. Abraham Lincoln.
    • LeeUK
    • By LeeUK 11th Mar 18, 1:42 AM
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    It's high time that the network operators and ISPs realise that it's not 1999 anymore and that the Internet is used for a lot more than just "surfing the web" reading the news and online grocery shopping.
    • ryan121
    • By ryan121 11th Mar 18, 9:13 PM
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    This is a completely pointless investigation. Do ofcom have nothing better to do?

    Three offer unlimited plans so of course they have to restrict traffic or people would abuse the network and slow it down for everyone else. It's all pretty obvious why they do what they do.
    • d123
    • By d123 11th Mar 18, 10:43 PM
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    This is a completely pointless investigation. Do ofcom have nothing better to do?
    Originally posted by ryan121
    Um, you do realise that this is basically what OFCOM exists for? Your question is a bit like asking why the police are enforcing the law, don't that have anything better to do?

    Three offer unlimited plans so of course they have to restrict traffic or people would abuse the network and slow it down for everyone else. It's all pretty obvious why they do what they do.
    Originally posted by ryan121
    The problem isn't throttling per se, and that's not why they are being investigated, the problem is that they are selectively throttling some services and not others (the basis of net neutrality).

    This is why Three are being investigated:

    Restricting tethering, the practice of using one device to connect another one to the internet - on certain plans offered by Three;

    Imposing restrictions on the devices in which a SIM can be used e.g. where a SIM purchased for a mobile phone cannot be used in a tablet; and

    Traffic management practices such as throttling or intentionally slowing down particular categories of traffic (e.g. video traffic, Peer-to-Peer and Virtual Private Network traffic), including where traffic management is applied when customers are roaming.
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