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    • surfer9
    • By surfer9 2nd Mar 18, 5:41 PM
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    Zero hours contract
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    • 2nd Mar 18, 5:41 PM
    Zero hours contract 2nd Mar 18 at 5:41 PM
    Hi guys....

    Just after some opinions/thoughts from anyone who is knowledgeable about zero hours contracts......

    1. Do you have to give a valid reason for not being able to come into work?

    2. Are employers allowed to demand you work set days and set hours?

    3. How much flexibility should the employee be given, ie. in terms of taking days off, leaving 'early', coming in 'late'.

    Thanks...
    Last edited by surfer9; 02-03-2018 at 7:41 PM.
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    • ScorpiondeRooftrouser
    • By ScorpiondeRooftrouser 4th Mar 18, 8:27 PM
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    So you are in the 'fear' booting camp on this one... you are strange with your responses.

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5763928&highlight=given+promotion +was+offered&page=2
    You are not the only one -re employable !

    How far do you go to keep an employer happy ? when it's all give and no allowance. At best when your friendliest colleagues are served notice (again despite pretty much everyone in MSE land believing FTC or temporary really means permanent when there's good reason why there is no committment, especially in today's time) and you can apply for their job - goodness no thanks.

    How many people will after events this week; see their job or employer in a whole new light?

    Has Indeed stopped advertising new jobs? BOTH sides have choices.

    I think everyone must have missed the bit where the OP says this 'arrangement' has gone on 4 years prior so they've hardly lost out.
    Originally posted by keepcalmandstayoutofdebt

    It's hard, as usual, to make any sense of your post. However there's no fear" about it. They are not asking whether they should leave. They are asking whether they have any right to force the employer to let them do what they want. They don't. If the employer don't like anything about them or their behaviour they can simply stop offering work. Even if they don't like the colour of their hat; let alone if they insist on turning up late.

    Whether they should leave - which they haven't asked - is of course down to whether they think they can get a better job elsewhere.
    Last edited by ScorpiondeRooftrouser; 04-03-2018 at 8:30 PM.
    • Les79
    • By Les79 4th Mar 18, 8:50 PM
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    It's hard, as usual, to make any sense of your post.
    Originally posted by ScorpiondeRooftrouser
    Yea, I was going to post that as well... Like the first bit made sense, right up to "At best when your colleagues are served notice...." where it all just went into a blur!

    However there's no fear" about it. They are not asking whether they should leave. They are asking whether they have any right to force the employer to let them do what they want. They don't. If the employer don't like anything about them or their behaviour they can simply stop offering work. Even if they don't like the colour of their hat; let alone if they insist on turning up late.
    Yep, I agree. You weren't stoking fear; you were speaking the truth. The bottom line is that, if you mess them around too much, they won't give you any more hours.
    • ScorpiondeRooftrouser
    • By ScorpiondeRooftrouser 4th Mar 18, 9:55 PM
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    When you say contracted do you mean full-time? Or contracted in the sense of self employed?
    • getmore4less
    • By getmore4less 4th Mar 18, 10:12 PM
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    IT is a very big mistake to start looking at what others do, fairness and perceived dscriminations.

    It is only of interest if it stops you doing your job.

    If there has never been a time set why not just say that, ask what would be a good time, discuss the issue of a key holder turning up before then etc.
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