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    • miran
    • By miran 1st Mar 18, 7:03 PM
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    Non domestic energy switch
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    • 1st Mar 18, 7:03 PM
    Non domestic energy switch 1st Mar 18 at 7:03 PM
    Hello
    Can anyone advise on how to search for a good energy deal for our little village hall? We have electricity only and are currently with npower. I don't have all the details, but suspect we've had the same provider for some time now.
    Thank you.
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    • CashStrapped
    • By CashStrapped 1st Mar 18, 7:26 PM
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    I assume by your main post that it is classed as a business supply?

    Or, even though it is not domestic, is it actually on still on a standard residential supply.....

    You need to clarify this.

    Getting quotes for a business supply is a very different ball game.

    The contracts are more restrictive...

    https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/utilities/small-business-energy
    • Robin9
    • By Robin9 1st Mar 18, 7:28 PM
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    Ring around the main suppliers - don't use a broker. Have your annual consumption figure to hand.

    Also ring nPower and ask them what the terms of your contract are - just in case you have to give notice.
    Never pay on an estimated bill
    • Hengus
    • By Hengus 1st Mar 18, 7:31 PM
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    • 1st Mar 18, 7:31 PM
    I would take advice first on any charitable status which can result in a VAT reduction from 20 to 5%. and CCL alleviation. I notice that community groups in Oxfordshire are advised to consult with a specialist broker - but CAVEAT EMPTOR. Business contracts are often agreed over the phone and there is no !!!8216;cooling off!!!8217; period.

    Same for Essex. I would check what other community groups are doing in your County:

    https://www.essexrcc.org.uk/community_buildings/Getting_the_best_energy_deal.aspx
    Last edited by Hengus; 01-03-2018 at 7:37 PM.
    • miran
    • By miran 2nd Mar 18, 10:28 AM
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    Thank you. I have gotten hold of some of the paperwork and we are in a business contract. They have just moved us on to their flexible business plan which requires 30 days notice to terminate.
    • miran
    • By miran 2nd Mar 18, 10:31 AM
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    Thank you. I've got more of the detail now , including usage so will have a go!
    • NineDeuce
    • By NineDeuce 2nd Mar 18, 11:27 AM
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    Ring around the main suppliers - don't use a broker. Have your annual consumption figure to hand.

    Also ring nPower and ask them what the terms of your contract are - just in case you have to give notice.
    Originally posted by Robin9
    Dont listen to this.

    Are you running the village hall on behalf of a local authority? Is the building owned by them?

    If so, find out whether the authority has a bulk/corporate contract for energy, as opposed to just individual contracts for all of their supplies.

    If they do, then they may help you get on to their contract... which quite possibly would have been arranged by a public sector broker. Such brokers can achieve better prices than the market average.
    • miran
    • By miran 6th Mar 18, 8:39 PM
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    • 6th Mar 18, 8:39 PM
    Thank you. We aren't involved with the LA, but are making enquiries about other community organisations locally.
    • Robin9
    • By Robin9 10th Mar 18, 3:20 PM
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    Ring around the main suppliers - don't use a broker. Have your annual consumption figure to hand.

    Also ring nPower and ask them what the terms of your contract are - just in case you have to give notice.
    Originally posted by Robin9
    I disagree with NineDeuces reply - Don't take any notice of this - post #7

    I have been dealing with my Church Hall (and Church) utilities since 2011. I contacted the online brokers. You can't leave details -they ring you with the pressure messages - very akin to the double glazing salesmen. They wanted to know what I was paying - I refused on the basis of confidentiality - I gave them consumption. Their figures were no better than what Ii was paying. They still pester me - so I have blocked email and phone. There are some very sorry stories on this forum.

    I have a consumption of 6,000 kwh (gas); 10,000 (elec).

    I swopped from UW to Gazprom and then to Total Gas and Power (a bulkbuying arrangement).

    My 2018 gas bill will be less than 2011 (for the same consumption); elec about 15% higher.

    Village Halls etc vary tremendously in their structure - private trust, parish council, memorial halls, even women's institute. We belong to a regional group - Community First - who support such halls. My local setup has a bulk buying arrangement for oil but I am not aware of gas or electric.

    Best of luck OP
    Never pay on an estimated bill
    • boliston
    • By boliston 10th Mar 18, 3:38 PM
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    i used an online broker to get quotes and then used this as leverage to get the existing provider to match the best quote - saved switching suppliers but the broker must have called back every day for a month, but i set up a rule to divert it to voicemail
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