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    • Northernmonkey71
    • By Northernmonkey71 28th Feb 18, 4:54 PM
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    Privately sold vehicle, new owner claims fault
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    • 28th Feb 18, 4:54 PM
    Privately sold vehicle, new owner claims fault 28th Feb 18 at 4:54 PM
    Afternoon folks,

    So, I listed a used van on eBay, described correctly, MOT until 24th March 2018, some history, was running perfectly to the best of my knowledge (I am not a mechanic, purchased the vehicle privately approx one year ago and have travelled 1600 fault free miles).

    A chap offered a fair price, I agreed to his offer and a deal was struck. The buyer did not come to view the vehicle in person, no test drive was undertaken. The money was sent via bank transfer, the V5 change completed online and a low loader was sent to collect the vehicle.

    The buyer confirmed receipt, queried the amount of fuel left in the tank (3/4) and that was that....until this morning.

    Having had the van for a week, he claims it has a head gasket failure, will cost £400 to repair and the he cannot afford to repair it.

    Am I liable for the repair costs? Have been reading various websites this afternoon, am waiting on a call back from the CAB but have come to the conclusion that, as unfortunate as this situation is, I have no legal responsibility to pay for the stated required repairs to the van.

    Thanks in advance.
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    • davidwood681
    • By davidwood681 1st Mar 18, 2:47 PM
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    Anyone who complains about a van Ford haven't made in over a decade needs a slap
    • EdGasketTheSecond
    • By EdGasketTheSecond 1st Mar 18, 5:23 PM
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    Well you can sell a car with a blown head gasket so long as you don't claim anything about it. It is up to the buyer to find the faults. I've looked at many cars to buy where the head gasket had gone but seller had no declared so.
    • societys child
    • By societys child 6th Mar 18, 8:30 PM
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    Please inform the rest of the group how we know our head gasket is about to expire.
    Originally posted by stator
    It'd take too long, there are many indications of head gasket failure.

    What is this "group" you speak of?
    Personally the only fault I would spot in advance is a clutch wearing out.
    Your limited experience is obviously a drawback.
    Last edited by societys child; 06-03-2018 at 8:35 PM.

    • RealGem
    • By RealGem 6th Mar 18, 9:47 PM
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    For him to buy it without viewing it, he either didn't want to miss a great bargain, in which case he took a gamble.

    Or he fully intended to claim something expensive was wrong, so he could try and scam you.

    Glad you got the all clear from the CAB. Ebay would have told you the same thing in a dspute. And they would tell him he should have viewed it.
    People only get upset
    when their expectations are not met.
    • arcon5
    • By arcon5 7th Mar 18, 6:11 AM
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    Not true given the Zafira B doesn’t have one.
    Originally posted by AndyMc.....
    They still have wanting lights on the dash though.
    • esmerobbo
    • By esmerobbo 7th Mar 18, 6:40 AM
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    This could be detrimental if this is the add!

    "Engine is superb and drives really well and very nippy"

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Escort-Van-1-8-Diesel-68-000-Genuien-Low-miles/232670798735?hash=item362c42a38f:i:232670798735
    • arcon5
    • By arcon5 7th Mar 18, 7:24 AM
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    Detrimental to say the least.
    Ok would be laughed out of court with his pants down
    • MikeWhite
    • By MikeWhite 7th Mar 18, 8:38 AM
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    This could be detrimental if this is the add!

    "Engine is superb and drives really well and very nippy"

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Escort-Van-1-8-Diesel-68-000-Genuien-Low-miles/232670798735?hash=item362c42a38f:i:232670798735
    Originally posted by esmerobbo
    Good spot. It has a tiet gearbox, a very rare find, too.
    • TheMoonandBack
    • By TheMoonandBack 7th Mar 18, 1:40 PM
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    I find it exceptionally hard to believe you wouldn't know if the head gasket was on its way out. It's a mighty coincidence it suddenly went when the buyer took receipt of it. So either you shifted a lemon or he's trying it on imo.
    .
    Originally posted by arcon5
    That’s a bit unfair, it could be both things - the van only did 1600 miles in the last year so no head gasket fault may have been apparent to the seller. The van is 18 years old, low mileage, with little recent use, if the buyer has jumped in it and put it to work then there could be numerous weak links which will now break.

    As others have said, its the buyers problem - ”Caviar empire, Rodney” as Del Boy would say.
    When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on

    Proud to be dealing with my debts
    • DoaM
    • By DoaM 7th Mar 18, 5:27 PM
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    This could be detrimental if this is the add!

    "Engine is superb and drives really well and very nippy"

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Escort-Van-1-8-Diesel-68-000-Genuien-Low-miles/232670798735?hash=item362c42a38f:i:232670798735
    Originally posted by esmerobbo
    Unless the OP lied in post #6 then this is a different vehicle.
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    • unholyangel
    • By unholyangel 8th Mar 18, 4:36 AM
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    Unless the OP lied in post #6 then this is a different vehicle.
    Originally posted by DoaM
    Actually, I don't think it is. I've found OP's listing, but some of the photos are the same - the one of the interior seats and the interior rear. They both have different photos of the same MOT certificate. The OP's listing ended 17th feb, other listing ended 26th Feb.

    OP, is the seller on this listing possibly your buyer?

    And I presume this is your listing?

    Actually no need to ask the OP, i can see it is his buyer from feedback left.

    Which begs the question, is he trying to punt a now repaired car off to someone else, or trying to fiddle the OP?
    Last edited by unholyangel; 08-03-2018 at 4:43 AM.
    Money doesn't solve poverty.....it creates it.
    • arcon5
    • By arcon5 8th Mar 18, 6:32 AM
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    I messaged the seller asking if the head gasket had been fixed and response was "there is nothing wrong with the head gasket"

    All screams he tried to screw op tbh
    • arcon5
    • By arcon5 8th Mar 18, 6:37 AM
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    From the buyer

    It over heated in the snow I panicked I thought the head had gone as when I phoned the garage to explain the problem that's what they told me but after further checks it was found to be just frozen water so we had the radiator drained and refilled with antifreeze it's been perfect since

    Take from that what you will
    • unholyangel
    • By unholyangel 8th Mar 18, 2:01 PM
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    From the buyer


    Take from that what you will
    Originally posted by arcon5
    So he was looking to punt it with a head gasket failure for double the price? Or he's sold a perfectly good vehicle for double the price?

    Either way, he sounds like a dodgy person!
    Money doesn't solve poverty.....it creates it.
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