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    • Jslocombe95
    • By Jslocombe95 28th Feb 18, 8:55 AM
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    Council tax living with students
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    • 28th Feb 18, 8:55 AM
    Council tax living with students 28th Feb 18 at 8:55 AM
    Hi there, I am in a 7 bedroom house in Cardiff, with 5 full time students, and 2 of us are working. However we did not move in to the property until September, and my friend who is also working paid half rent for 2 months over summer, meanwhile I did not pay half rent as someone was living in the house during those months and then dropped out of the house in September which is when I then signed on to the property. So my question is how should our council tax be split? I understand it as he may have to pay 75% for the summer months as he was the only non student then from September onwards we would pay 50% each? Or should we just have to pay from when we moved in? I certainly canít afford to pay nearly an extra £200 for the 2 months before I even signed for the property and while someone else lived there in my place too who is a full time student. Many thanks for any help, coming up to April soon so want to pay off September to April and then sort out paying monthly for the last 2 months of our tenancy contract
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    • Aylesbury Duck
    • By Aylesbury Duck 28th Feb 18, 9:12 AM
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    • 28th Feb 18, 9:12 AM
    Hi there, I am in a 7 bedroom house in Cardiff, with 5 full time students, and 2 of us are working. However we did not move in to the property until September, and my friend who is also working paid half rent for 2 months over summer, meanwhile I did not pay half rent as someone was living in the house during those months and then dropped out of the house in September which is when I then signed on to the property. So my question is how should our council tax be split? I understand it as he may have to pay 75% for the summer months as he was the only non student then from September onwards we would pay 50% each? Or should we just have to pay from when we moved in? I certainly canít afford to pay nearly an extra £200 for the 2 months before I even signed for the property and while someone else lived there in my place too who is a full time student. Many thanks for any help, coming up to April soon so want to pay off September to April and then sort out paying monthly for the last 2 months of our tenancy contract
    Originally posted by Jslocombe95
    You are obliged to pay your share of council tax for whatever period you have a tenancy. If your tenancy agreement started in September then you should pay 50% of the tax from that point. If you had a tenancy from July then I would think you owe 50% tax for July and August.
    Please forgive the deliberate omission of apostrophes on some posts whilst I await MSE to do something about the daft codes that appear in their place when typing on certain devices.
    • CIS
    • By CIS 28th Feb 18, 9:45 AM
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    Hi there, I am in a 7 bedroom house in Cardiff, with 5 full time students, and 2 of us are working.
    The first question - is it a joint tenancy or do you rent only a room and/or have a rent liability on only part of the property.

    However we did not move in to the property until September,
    The simplest answer is that if you were not resident and others were resident then you are not taken in to account for council tax purposes (the situation may become complex but this covers 99% of situations)
    I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a self employed Council Tax specialist. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.
    • Jslocombe95
    • By Jslocombe95 5th Mar 18, 5:24 PM
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    • 5th Mar 18, 5:24 PM
    It is a joint tenancy, and I only signed the tenancy agreement in September, before that point, someone else had previously signed tenancy for from July and was living at the property
    • melb
    • By melb 5th Mar 18, 8:47 PM
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    • 5th Mar 18, 8:47 PM
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    • 5th Mar 18, 8:47 PM
    is this an HMO in that you each have a bedroom with a lock and share other areas such as bathroom and kitchen?
    • boliston
    • By boliston 5th Mar 18, 8:58 PM
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    • 5th Mar 18, 8:58 PM
    the main thing a working person always needs to bear in mind when sharing with students is that they would be liable for ALL the council tax (or 75% if they are the only non student) as any students in the property are ignored for CT purposes - this is why it is unusual to see a mix of students and non students as the non students would get a very raw deal on CT.
    • melb
    • By melb 5th Mar 18, 9:21 PM
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    • 5th Mar 18, 9:21 PM
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    • 5th Mar 18, 9:21 PM
    if it's an HMO the landlord/owner is often liable for paying the council tax if any non-students are renting rooms. They will try and palm it off onto those who are working but ultimately they should be paying it.

    This is for people signing individual tenancies. I don't understand enough about tenancy agreements but wonder why it's a joint tenancy if 7 separate people are renting.
    • CIS
    • By CIS 5th Mar 18, 10:11 PM
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    • 5th Mar 18, 10:11 PM
    With 7 rooms there's a very good chance that the VOA would want to look at disaggregating the property in to individual council tax bandings - I've just dealt with a case where there were 9 rooms and each one has ended up being banded individually. It's hit and miss though, it often depends on the valuation officer and how willing they are to make the decision.
    I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a self employed Council Tax specialist. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.
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