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    • wicklamucker
    • By wicklamucker 26th Feb 18, 1:35 PM
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    newbie PCN lease car scotland
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    • 26th Feb 18, 1:35 PM
    newbie PCN lease car scotland 26th Feb 18 at 1:35 PM
    Hi all, tried to encapsulate all in title... have been through the newbie thread but still not 100% on where i stand.

    Background - work in a scottish city, had a company car (relinquished last friday) and have, on occasion, parked near the office in bays reserved for residents. On opposite side there are public bays but signage is poor (no entrance signs and sign by bay where i parked just reads private parking - refer to other signs for terms and conditions)....
    The details shall follow, but probably slightly complicated further by the fact that some colleagues and i have also used photocopied permits....
    At the start of last November i recieved a windscreen PCN - ignored it and subsequently lease company forwarded on NTK - i was happy on that occasion to (successfully) appeal directly there and then on the basis that that particular PCN stated no contravention....

    This time....
    29/11/17 recieved windscreen PCN with contravention of 'photo copied permit'
    duly ignored it
    23/02/18 recieved email from lease company copying 'Notice to Keeper or Hirer' which they recieved 12/02/18 (dated 02/02/18) from debt collector. This states 100 outstanding, recieved lease company details from DVLA using Reasonable Cause. Asks to advise of driver. Mentions that 'the signage, which is clearly displayed at hte entrance to and throughout the car park, states that this is private land, the car park is managed by P4Parking (UK) Ltd and details the terms and conditions of the car park by which those who park in the car park agree to be bound'.

    Unsure of where i stand due to
    a) the photocopied permit
    b) POFA 2012 doesnt apply to Scotland.....

    Can anyone please advise?
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    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 13th Apr 18, 8:51 PM
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    Does this change anything at all?
    Yes, like I said, they are still being held liable, i.e. they stand to be sued, then what do you think they will do? Get the money off you and pay up, that's what will happen.

    And no, I am not telling you to pay. Already said what they MUST do.
    TWO Clicks needed Look up, top of the page:
    Main site>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
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