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    • guzzbuzz
    • By guzzbuzz 14th Feb 18, 10:25 PM
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    Can dual monitors work independently?
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    • 14th Feb 18, 10:25 PM
    Can dual monitors work independently? 14th Feb 18 at 10:25 PM
    I have a two monitor set up for my PC, using windows 10, both monitors connected via DVI

    They are both displaying windows but if i go for the "duplicate these displays" option in windows 10, the monitors just mirror each other. So if i move my mouse it then moves it on both screens and everything i click displays on both screens

    If i go for the "Extend these displays option" then it only shows on the primary monitor

    BUT if i scroll across to the 2nd monitor and click on google chrome for example, it will open it on the Primary monitor and display there.

    Is there no way when i click on the 2nd monitor it only opens the program there and if i click on the 1st (primary) monitor it will only open there?

    So i have i kind of have 2 different desktop displays, one on each monitor?
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    • Neil Jones
    • By Neil Jones 14th Feb 18, 11:37 PM
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    Are they actual both DVI connectors? You're not converting to DVI from something else, typically VGA? Sometimes that doesn't always work and if possible use a straight DVI cable rather than through an adapter.

    If that passes then the Duplicate option does exactly what it says on the tin - same desktop on two screens.

    You need the extend displays option. You may have to change some other settings in the Display Properties or the card's software to get it to show on the second screen (which when you get it working will only show a taskbar less desktop until you drag something onto it).

    This might be of interest:
    https://www.techwalla.com/articles/how-to-connect-two-dvi-monitors-to-one-pc
    • guzzbuzz
    • By guzzbuzz 15th Feb 18, 12:09 AM
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    • 15th Feb 18, 12:09 AM
    Are they actual both DVI connectors? You're not converting to DVI from something else, typically VGA? Sometimes that doesn't always work and if possible use a straight DVI cable rather than through an adapter.

    If that passes then the Duplicate option does exactly what it says on the tin - same desktop on two screens.

    You need the extend displays option. You may have to change some other settings in the Display Properties or the card's software to get it to show on the second screen (which when you get it working will only show a taskbar less desktop until you drag something onto it).

    This might be of interest:
    https://www.techwalla.com/articles/how-to-connect-two-dvi-monitors-to-one-pc
    Originally posted by Neil Jones
    Thanks mate

    My computer has this graphics card:

    Nvidia NVS 315 1GB graphics card, which is a pro card with a single DMS-59 port

    Then i have a DVI splitter cable attached to that DMS-59 port which i then use two seperate DVI cables to run to each monitor

    So on the first monitor, right now, i can see windows and all the icons on the left hand side (chrome, firefox, recycle bin etc)

    On the 2nd monitor, i see none of the icons and only the taskbar at the bottom

    This is in "extend display option"

    So is the only way to get something on the 2nd screen to drag it across from screen one?

    Can i, for example, download "malware bytes" and have that icon ONLY show on the 2nd monitor and only work when i move my mouse to the 2nd monitor and click on it?

    Or is it ALWAYS a case of having to drag thing over from the first monitor to the 2nd monitor and then working on them that way?

    Do all the downloaded programs only ever stay on the first monitor as well?
    Last edited by guzzbuzz; 15-02-2018 at 12:14 AM.
    • forgotmyname
    • By forgotmyname 15th Feb 18, 12:18 AM
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    • 15th Feb 18, 12:18 AM
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    • 15th Feb 18, 12:18 AM
    So your splitting a single video output.

    You do not have 2 different outputs. You need a video card with 2 or more video outs.

    You cannot entend with only a single output, there is nothing to extend it to unless you have a clever box of tricks and your video card supports strange formats.

    You have windows 10 so you have the option of 2 desktops on a single monitor. (task view)

    But with a splitter you still get a cloned display, anything that appears on monitor one will also appear on monitor 2.
    Last edited by forgotmyname; 15-02-2018 at 12:22 AM.
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    • stator
    • By stator 15th Feb 18, 12:30 AM
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    • 15th Feb 18, 12:30 AM
    There's no way of having separate desktops on standard windows. You would have to find some third party program, I'm not sure if such a thing exists.
    The other way of course is to have a second cheap PC, but that would be a waste of electricity. You could use a Raspberry pi or other cheap device if you only wanted to display something simple
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    • guzzbuzz
    • By guzzbuzz 15th Feb 18, 12:36 AM
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    • 15th Feb 18, 12:36 AM
    So your splitting a single video output.

    You do not have 2 different outputs. You need a video card with 2 or more video outs.

    You cannot entend with only a single output, there is nothing to extend it to unless you have a clever box of tricks and your video card supports strange formats.

    You have windows 10 so you have the option of 2 desktops on a single monitor. (task view)

    But with a splitter you still get a cloned display, anything that appears on monitor one will also appear on monitor 2.
    Originally posted by forgotmyname

    Thanks

    I dont think the taskview is what im looking for, as that, as you say just gives me two desktops on the single screen

    However my computer does ALSO have two displayport ports. Do you think what im looking for would work if i connected one monitor via displayport and the other via DVI?

    Or even just using both the displayports and connecting them to each monitor that way?

    Another issue here is that if i double click , chrome, for example, it opens up a new page on the first monitor?

    Surely if i want something to open in the 2nd monitor and i select it from that monitor it should open there?!
    Last edited by guzzbuzz; 15-02-2018 at 12:47 AM.
    • forgotmyname
    • By forgotmyname 15th Feb 18, 2:04 AM
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    • 15th Feb 18, 2:04 AM
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    There's no way of having separate desktops on standard windows. You would have to find some third party program, I'm not sure if such a thing exists.
    The other way of course is to have a second cheap PC, but that would be a waste of electricity. You could use a Raspberry pi or other cheap device if you only wanted to display something simple
    Originally posted by stator
    Oh dear

    Where have you been hiding in a cave?

    Desktops was available for Windows 7. I used it a lot.

    It gave you the choice of having lots of desktops where you could have different programs or browser pages open. You could have a game running on one desktop and simply CTRL+Windows key+ left/right arrow between the desktops.

    Windows 10 has the feature enabled as standard. TASK VIEW. If the button is not showing on the taskbar simply right click and select show taskview button. Out of the box it will give you 3 or 4 desktops, but you can add more.

    You can use the mouse to switch between desktops.

    No 3rd party software required, Windows 10 already installed and ready to use. Windows 7 downloadable from the MS website.

    Although there are 3rd party programs also.
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    • wongataa
    • By wongataa 15th Feb 18, 7:49 AM
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    • 15th Feb 18, 7:49 AM
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    • 15th Feb 18, 7:49 AM
    Thanks

    I dont think the taskview is what im looking for, as that, as you say just gives me two desktops on the single screen

    However my computer does ALSO have two displayport ports. Do you think what im looking for would work if i connected one monitor via displayport and the other via DVI?
    Originally posted by guzzbuzz
    Yes this will work.
    Or even just using both the displayports and connecting them to each monitor that way?
    Originally posted by guzzbuzz
    Yes this will also work.
    • unforeseen
    • By unforeseen 15th Feb 18, 8:04 AM
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    • 15th Feb 18, 8:04 AM
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    • 15th Feb 18, 8:04 AM
    So your splitting a single video output.

    You do not have 2 different outputs. You need a video card with 2 or more video outs.

    You cannot entend with only a single output, there is nothing to extend it to unless you have a clever box of tricks and your video card supports strange formats.

    You have windows 10 so you have the option of 2 desktops on a single monitor. (task view)

    But with a splitter you still get a cloned display, anything that appears on monitor one will also appear on monitor 2.
    Originally posted by forgotmyname
    No he is not splitting the video. There are 2 DVI-D channels. The fact that the second monitor only has the taskbar shows that it is working correctly in extended mode.

    To see an app open on the 2nd display. Open it as normal then drag it onto the 2nd monitor. When you close it, it should then remember it's last position and re-open there. If you want other icons on your 2nd desktop then just drag them across. It doesn't do it automatically.
    • guzzbuzz
    • By guzzbuzz 15th Feb 18, 9:00 AM
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    Oh dear

    Where have you been hiding in a cave?

    Desktops was available for Windows 7. I used it a lot.

    It gave you the choice of having lots of desktops where you could have different programs or browser pages open. You could have a game running on one desktop and simply CTRL+Windows key+ left/right arrow between the desktops.

    Windows 10 has the feature enabled as standard. TASK VIEW. If the button is not showing on the taskbar simply right click and select show taskview button. Out of the box it will give you 3 or 4 desktops, but you can add more.

    You can use the mouse to switch between desktops.

    No 3rd party software required, Windows 10 already installed and ready to use. Windows 7 downloadable from the MS website.

    Although there are 3rd party programs also.
    Originally posted by forgotmyname
    Thanks

    I just don't understand the purpose of TASKVIEW, i did watch a video on it last night but it just seemed to minimise the pages on the screen that i had opened them on

    I will have to have another look into what taskview actually does today
    • guzzbuzz
    • By guzzbuzz 15th Feb 18, 9:04 AM
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    Yes this will work.

    Yes this will also work.
    Originally posted by wongataa
    I am trying this now. Both monitors connected via independent DISPLAYPORT cables. Both cables connected into different DISPLAYPORT ports on the computer

    Same thing is happening

    If i click chrome on Monitor2....it only opens on Monitor1

    Monitor 1 has all the icons. Even if i drag an icon to monitor 2 (like the chrome icon), it will then remove it from monitor one BUT when i click it, it will open on monitor 1?!
    • guzzbuzz
    • By guzzbuzz 15th Feb 18, 9:12 AM
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    No he is not splitting the video. There are 2 DVI-D channels. The fact that the second monitor only has the taskbar shows that it is working correctly in extended mode.

    To see an app open on the 2nd display. Open it as normal then drag it onto the 2nd monitor. When you close it, it should then remember it's last position and re-open there. If you want other icons on your 2nd desktop then just drag them across. It doesn't do it automatically.
    Originally posted by unforeseen
    Thanks

    Yes, the 2nd monitor only has the taskbar. So, from what you said, i guess extended mode is working correctly?

    Also the ONLY way to get something to display on monitor 2 is to drag it across from monitor 1 then?

    I will use "google chrome" and "malwarebytes" as an example......

    If i drag the google chrome icon from monitor 1 onto monitor 2. I then lose the icon on monitor 1?!
    So now i can ONLY access chrome from monitor 2
    So everytime i want to open a webpage on monitor 1.....i have to drag the icon back or drag the whole page back across?

    What i don't understand is why I can't download programs, such as malwarebytes, and then open that program on whatever monitor my mouse is located in

    It seems like i either have to forever open it on monitor 1 or monitor 2 and the only way to do it, is to drag the program into each screen......but then i am stuck with the program only working on that screen?!
    • guzzbuzz
    • By guzzbuzz 15th Feb 18, 9:13 AM
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    I was reading this last night:

    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-start-winpc/opening-programs-on-second-monitor-not-main/ebc1d56d-8b75-47d4-91b8-64ea71cc206a?auth=1


    Am i dealing with a known windows 10 problem here?
    Last edited by guzzbuzz; 15-02-2018 at 9:16 AM.
    • DoaM
    • By DoaM 15th Feb 18, 9:16 AM
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    What i don't understand is why I can't download programs, such as malwarebytes, and then open that program on whatever monitor my mouse is located in
    Originally posted by guzzbuzz
    Because Windows doesn't work that way.

    As said earlier ... open the application, drag it to your preferred monitor, use it, close it. Next time you open it then it should remember that last monitor location and open there.
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    • dipsomaniac
    • By dipsomaniac 15th Feb 18, 9:29 AM
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    Surely if i want something to open in the 2nd monitor and i select it from that monitor it should open there?!
    Originally posted by guzzbuzz
    on my extended setup if i open anything from the taskbar on monitor 2 it opens on monitor 1 and i drag it across to monitor 2. i alway thought it was supposed to work like that?
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    • AndyPix
    • By AndyPix 15th Feb 18, 9:31 AM
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    I dont understand why everyone has gone off on a hardware tangent


    Because Windows doesn't work that way.

    As said earlier ... open the application, drag it to your preferred monitor, use it, close it. Next time you open it then it should remember that last monitor location and open there.
    Originally posted by DoaM

    ^^ This is the answer you need.


    Open your stuff - move it to your preferred location - windows will remember and open in the same place next time
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    • dipsomaniac
    • By dipsomaniac 15th Feb 18, 9:31 AM
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    Because Windows doesn't work that way.

    As said earlier ... open the application, drag it to your preferred monitor, use it, close it. Next time you open it then it should remember that last monitor location and open there.
    Originally posted by DoaM
    thanks for this. i just learned something new
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    • guzzbuzz
    • By guzzbuzz 15th Feb 18, 9:46 AM
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    Because Windows doesn't work that way.

    As said earlier ... open the application, drag it to your preferred monitor, use it, close it. Next time you open it then it should remember that last monitor location and open there.
    Originally posted by DoaM
    Thanks, so this is the only way then?

    EG. If i close chrome on monitor 2, then the next time i open chrome on monitor 1....it will only ever open on monitor 2....until i drag it back?

    Seems very limited. I thought it would just open a program in whatever screen my mouse was located in. Which would be much simpler and easier for the user?

    on my extended setup if i open anything from the taskbar on monitor 2 it opens on monitor 1 and i drag it across to monitor 2. i alway thought it was supposed to work like that?
    Originally posted by dipsomaniac
    Not sure mate, this is the first time i've had a dual monitor set up

    I dont understand why everyone has gone off on a hardware tangent





    ^^ This is the answer you need.


    Open your stuff - move it to your preferred location - windows will remember and open in the same place next time
    Originally posted by AndyPix
    Can i definitely eliminate that this is anything to do with what cables i am using?

    Because i was going to return the two DISPLAYPORT cables i bought as the monitors came with the DVI cables and i had that DMS-59 port to DVI splitter cable plugged into the PC

    Is it safe to send the Displayport cables back, as this is definitely not the issue?
    • AndyPix
    • By AndyPix 15th Feb 18, 11:22 AM
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    Can i definitely eliminate that this is anything to do with what cables i am using??
    Originally posted by guzzbuzz

    Yes - 100%
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    • AndyPix
    • By AndyPix 15th Feb 18, 11:25 AM
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    Seems very limited.?
    Originally posted by guzzbuzz

    It is entirely logical ..
    You are using extended desktop, which effectively means you are using 2 monitors side by side as if they were one long monitor.


    It has always been windows behaviour to open a program in the same location on the screen and with the same sized window that it was using when it was last closed.


    Stop thinking of them as seperate screens.
    You now have one long screen


    (perhaps you are being cofused because there are 2 task bars, one on each screen - which never used to be the case in W7 )
    Last edited by AndyPix; 15-02-2018 at 11:27 AM.
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