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    • Nathaniel Essex
    • By Nathaniel Essex 14th Feb 18, 10:56 AM
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    Any advice for a speeding ticket?
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    • 14th Feb 18, 10:56 AM
    Any advice for a speeding ticket? 14th Feb 18 at 10:56 AM
    Happy Valentines Day to me. Just got a speeding letter through the post. I was going 58mph on the M25 where the speed limit is 50mph.

    Really annoyed and reading the letter it makes every effort to provide you with little information and discourage you asking for more.
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    • neilmcl
    • By neilmcl 14th Feb 18, 11:01 AM
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    • 14th Feb 18, 11:01 AM
    So what exactly is the advice you want?
    • IanMSpencer
    • By IanMSpencer 14th Feb 18, 11:01 AM
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    • 14th Feb 18, 11:01 AM
    Happy Valentines Day to me. Just got a speeding letter through the post. I was going 58mph on the M25 where the speed limit is 50mph.

    Really annoyed and reading the letter it makes every effort to provide you with little information and discourage you asking for more.
    Originally posted by Nathaniel Essex
    Well, if you were doing 58 then take your lumps, "evidence" will be rock solid in terms of photos.

    If you can think of reasons why you are certain this was wrong and you know you were driving at slower speed then go to the pepipoo.com forums where they will be able to walk you through genuine legal arguments rather than misleading speculative ideas for breaking the system. They won't allow judgemental comments there, but they will tell you how it is if you hope that someone has a magic solution for making tickets disappear.
    • waamo
    • By waamo 14th Feb 18, 11:02 AM
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    • 14th Feb 18, 11:02 AM
    What more information do you need?
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    • wongataa
    • By wongataa 14th Feb 18, 11:02 AM
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    • 14th Feb 18, 11:02 AM
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    • 14th Feb 18, 11:02 AM
    The letter will ask who was driving the car stated in the letter at the time in question. You reply with who was driving. That is all you do at this point. That is all you are asked to do. What other info do you want?
    • Ebe Scrooge
    • By Ebe Scrooge 14th Feb 18, 11:14 AM
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    • 14th Feb 18, 11:14 AM
    Not quite sure what your question is - but the NIP you have received sounds perfectly standard. You will have been caught speeding by an approved & calibrated device, basically you can only pay up and carry on. Unless, as Wongataa says, you were not the driver, in which case you reply to that effect.


    You can request the photographic ( or other ) evidence. However, to do that you need to plead not guilty, entailing a trip to court to prove your case, and all the associated costs : https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q206.htm


    Really, unless you're absolutely sure that you were not speeding, and you are convinced there was a fault with the camera or whatever that caught you, then pay the fine, take the points and suck it up.
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    • DoaM
    • By DoaM 14th Feb 18, 12:47 PM
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    If the NIP says 58 in a 50 then your speedo will have shown 60+ ... no excuse and no getting away from it.
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    • mchale
    • By mchale 14th Feb 18, 1:38 PM
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    • 14th Feb 18, 1:38 PM
    Did you receive the NIP within 14 days of the offence?
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    • pogofish
    • By pogofish 14th Feb 18, 2:39 PM
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    • 14th Feb 18, 2:39 PM
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    • 14th Feb 18, 2:39 PM
    The Pepipoo Forum is probably your best bet for this.

    Sign-up with something that isn't Hotmail, read the intro posts carefully, post in the correct forum and be ready to provide all the info they ask for and if any help can be given, it will.
    • forgotmyname
    • By forgotmyname 14th Feb 18, 6:13 PM
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    Happy Valentines Day to me. Just got a speeding letter through the post. I was going 58mph on the M25 where the speed limit is 50mph.

    Really annoyed and reading the letter it makes every effort to provide you with little information and discourage you asking for more.
    Originally posted by Nathaniel Essex

    More information like what? Speed limit 50mph, you were ticketed at 58, so you were likely to be a touch over that also.

    Date and time will and costs will be on the ticket. What more do you need?
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    • facade
    • By facade 14th Feb 18, 7:56 PM
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    Just fill in the form with who was driving at the time (reads like it was you), sign it and send it back within the 28 days.
    The most likely outcome will be the offer of a course if the driver is eligible.
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    • Deastons
    • By Deastons 15th Feb 18, 7:37 AM
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    Just fill in the form with who was driving at the time (reads like it was you), sign it and send it back within the 28 days.
    The most likely outcome will be the offer of a course if the driver is eligible.
    Originally posted by facade
    The speed awareness course annoys me. It's just seen by most as a minor annoyance. If you passed your driving test, you're already aware of the speed limits and everyone is aware of the dangers of speeding.

    The other day on my local radio station, the DJ was joking about having to do his speed awareness course that afternoon. It gave him and his sidekick several minutes of 'hilarious' banter.

    I think if you opt for the speed awareness course and get done for speeding a second time, you should get the fine and points from the first offence, too, as you clearly learned nothing.

    Speeding is the highest form of arrogant-couldn't-give-a-damn that there is. And most people who speed probably complain about other people speeding through their town/village.
    • Car 54
    • By Car 54 15th Feb 18, 7:45 AM
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    If you passed your driving test, you're already aware of the speed limits ...
    Originally posted by Deastons
    Even a brief look at the posts on Pepipoo, and indeed some here, would show that this is far from true.
    • AndyMc.....
    • By AndyMc..... 15th Feb 18, 8:17 AM
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    The speed awareness course annoys me. It's just seen by most as a minor annoyance. If you passed your driving test, you're already aware of the speed limits and everyone is aware of the dangers of speeding.

    The other day on my local radio station, the DJ was joking about having to do his speed awareness course that afternoon. It gave him and his sidekick several minutes of 'hilarious' banter.

    I think if you opt for the speed awareness course and get done for speeding a second time, you should get the fine and points from the first offence, too, as you clearly learned nothing.

    Speeding is the highest form of arrogant-couldn't-give-a-damn that there is. And most people who speed probably complain about other people speeding through their town/village.
    Originally posted by Deastons
    I agree, itís a bit like revesing onto someoneís drive that is no longer there and trying to blame the householder because the driver didnít check it was a safe thing to do.
    • NBLondon
    • By NBLondon 15th Feb 18, 8:55 AM
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    I think if you opt for the speed awareness course and get done for speeding a second time, you should get the fine and points from the first offence, too, as you clearly learned nothing.
    Originally posted by Deastons
    That's a pretty good idea... I did a course a few years back and it was a useful refresher and gave me a hint as to how I'd ended up speeding (went from a 40 limit to a 30 limit and missed the transition signs). So if I make the same mistake again, I deserve to be hit with the points and fine. At the very least - no second offer of a course if you've done one in the last 10 years or so?
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    • By Nodding Donkey 15th Feb 18, 12:45 PM
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    I'm glad to see that those cameras actually work. I am sick and tired of people making my journey longer by speeding.
    • DoaM
    • By DoaM 15th Feb 18, 1:12 PM
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    I agree, itís a bit like revesing onto someoneís drive that is no longer there and trying to blame the householder because the driver didnít check it was a safe thing to do.
    Originally posted by AndyMc.....
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    • uknick
    • By uknick 15th Feb 18, 2:49 PM
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    Speeding is the highest form of arrogant-couldn't-give-a-damn that there is. And most people who speed probably complain about other people speeding through their town/village.
    Originally posted by Deastons
    Do you want to quantify that statement? Or, do you think doing 80 on a motorway is as bad as doing 40 in a 30?
    • Aylesbury Duck
    • By Aylesbury Duck 15th Feb 18, 4:22 PM
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    I agree, itís a bit like revesing onto someoneís drive that is no longer there and trying to blame the householder because the driver didnít check it was a safe thing to do.
    Originally posted by AndyMc.....
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    • Deastons
    • By Deastons 16th Feb 18, 8:05 AM
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    Do you want to quantify that statement? Or, do you think doing 80 on a motorway is as bad as doing 40 in a 30?
    Originally posted by uknick
    Personally, yes I do. The law says the maximum speed for the road is 30/40/60/70 etc., and by going faster, you're saying you know better than the experts who have done the research and deemed that the safest speed for the road.

    You're ignoring the safety of everyone else on the road, not to mention the health and wellbeing of people who live near the road or happen to be walking along it. The number of times I hear people moan about the fact a road is 40mph when it could easily be 60mph, but they don't for one second consider the air quality difference for all the people living and sleeping along its length.

    There's a stretch of the M1 that drops to 50. There's no obvious roadworks and it's only for a short stretch (I suspect there's a problem with the central reservation). Every day I must be the only person who actually slows to 50 - I'm overtaken by lorries, cars and busses that make no effort to slow. But they all know better. They know that the engineers who know the details of the problem and the reason for the reduced limit are mistaken and going at 80mph+ is absolutely fine.

    But when a member of their family is injured/killed by a speeding driver, they'll be all over social media complaining about speeding drivers forgetting that they are just as bad as the speeding driver they're complaining about.
    Last edited by Deastons; 16-02-2018 at 8:08 AM.
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