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    • pappa golf
    • By pappa golf 10th Feb 18, 8:54 PM
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    • 10th Feb 18, 8:54 PM
    the fun will start 10th Feb 18 at 8:54 PM
    I (yes me) got a ticket today!!


    oh dear , lidl car park (or not) site has about 4 retailers and is owned by "emersons?"(sp)

    now I was riding one of my motorbikes and parked off the car park on the paved shop entry area , next to the trolleys

    I have been doing this for over 6 yrs due to some "muppet" driving into what he thought was an empty space , knocking my bike over and driving off

    the company is Comprehensive Management Services Ltd

    I am on good terms with lidl staff and the manager will assist if asked

    however I think its time to show them the british "bulldog" spirit and cost CPM some money


    got some lovely pics of the "warden" in what could not be described as a uniform , they were taken over several mins as he sheltered (5 ft from bike) and enjoyed his woodbine
    Last edited by pappa golf; 10-02-2018 at 8:57 PM.
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    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 11th Feb 18, 5:17 PM
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    Have you got a link to the BMPA page, pappa golf? Which court?

    I heard that Barry Beavis tore them off a strip for suing a customer. True?
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    • pappa golf
    • By pappa golf 11th Feb 18, 5:18 PM
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    luton ,,,,,,,,

    which barry bevis , there seems to be two of them

    how can the original post on the same site as tony taylor
    Last edited by pappa golf; 11-02-2018 at 5:21 PM.
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    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 11th Feb 18, 5:22 PM
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    ''There's only one Barry Beavis'' (legendary and genuine guy). It was he of the ParkingEye rip-off.
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    • pappa golf
    • By pappa golf 11th Feb 18, 5:25 PM
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    ''There's only one Barry Beavis'' (legendary and genuine guy). It was he of the ParkingEye rip-off.
    Originally posted by Coupon-mad

    ahh , so its just 2 tony taylors then? the one that worked for a PPC and the one that runs an appeal company?
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    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 11th Feb 18, 5:31 PM
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    No, there's only one Tony Taylor connected to parking. Not a legend. All these names do get confusing.
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    • logician
    • By logician 11th Feb 18, 8:57 PM
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    According to another poster here, Carol's company sued a customer. Apparently it was in the public domain, listed by the BMPA as a 'parking related' court case in 2017. Is that true?
    Originally posted by Coupon-mad
    [QUOTE=pappa golf;73865717]Lxxxx CxxxxxCD Private Parking Appeals

    31/5/17


    Have you got a link to the BMPA page, pappa golf? Which court?

    I heard that Barry Beavis tore them off a strip for suing a customer. True?
    Originally posted by Coupon-mad
    luton ,,,,,,,,

    which barry bevis , there seems to be two of them

    how can the original post on the same site as tony taylor
    Originally posted by pappa golf
    ahh , so its just 2 tony taylors then? the one that worked for a PPC and the one that runs an appeal company?
    Originally posted by pappa golf
    How curious, a company (PPA) allegedly sued a customer which was then spouted on a competitors website/ group by Tony Taylor (a former UKPC attendant) which also claimed that Barry Beavis (who also has a commercial practice) slated PPA for allegedly suing a customer.


    Barry Beavis I have been informed also makes a charge for assisting in a lot of court claims apparently has a company registered as Beavis Parking Ltd

    https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/I1FykcgVdiZoSSr9S7woTUFRqlg/appointments
    • pappa golf
    • By pappa golf 11th Feb 18, 9:15 PM
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    so ,stripping all that garbage away

    do you deny that PPA took a "customer" to county court or not?
    Last edited by pappa golf; 11-02-2018 at 9:21 PM.
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    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 11th Feb 18, 9:40 PM
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    What's your issue with Barry Beavis then, logician? He's an honest individual IMHO.
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    • logician
    • By logician 11th Feb 18, 9:59 PM
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    so ,stripping all that garbage away

    do you deny that PPA took a "customer" to county court or not?
    Originally posted by pappa golf
    PG you are asking a question, I cannot answer.

    So As I am NOT PPA, why don't you ask them. ??
    • logician
    • By logician 11th Feb 18, 10:01 PM
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    What's your issue with Barry Beavis then, logician? He's an honest individual IMHO.
    Originally posted by Coupon-mad
    Who said I had an issue with Barry Beavis?

    It was you who made the allegation that he 'tore into PPA' and this was in the public domain, (which turns out to be via a group operated by Tony Taylor)

    I also understand he later left that group as an Admin and started his own facebook group
    Last edited by logician; 11-02-2018 at 10:04 PM.
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 11th Feb 18, 10:07 PM
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    Seems like you have an issue with him:

    Barry Beavis (who also has a commercial practice) slated PPA for allegedly suing a customer.

    Barry Beavis I have been informed also makes a charge for assisting in a lot of court claims apparently has a company registered as Beavis Parking Ltd

    https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/I1FykcgVdiZoSSr9S7woTUFRqlg/appointments
    Originally posted by logician
    I doubt he charges for his services. Any evidence for that?

    and:

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?p=73304631#post73304631

    and:

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?p=73708452#post73708452

    Seems like something of a vendetta against Barry Beavis, to any right-thinking reader:

    Having read the transcript of the costs part of the hearing, I was absolutely appalled by apparent lack of ability of Mr Beavis who appeared to be working for the Claimant, agreeing with unreasonable conduct in defending the claim on apparently points which had been pre-agreed to explore for the 3 - day trial.

    He practically handed the costs against the Defendants, failing to correct the judge on a number of points or raise issue as to why the Claimant did not raise relevant points at the time during the trial or why the judge was permitting these without any redress from Mr Wilkie or any formal Witness Statement of those involved.

    Additionally,No attempt was made by him to argue for example against unreasonable conduct citing relevant case law
    The only thing that 'appalled' the right-thinking regular posters here, were the reports of the aggressive conduct of the other lay rep, as recorded in transcripts that are in the public domain.
    Last edited by Coupon-mad; 11-02-2018 at 10:09 PM.
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    • pappa golf
    • By pappa golf 11th Feb 18, 10:08 PM
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    PG you are asking a question, I cannot answer.

    So As I am NOT PPA, why don't you ask them. ??
    Originally posted by logician
    dont need to ask , the daily court sheets show a true reflection of daily actions

    unless you are calling me a lier , ?
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    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 11th Feb 18, 10:10 PM
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    It's astonishing, but there are some people in life, who you can Google with the word 'liar' after their name and actually get lots of results.
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    • logician
    • By logician 11th Feb 18, 11:02 PM
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    dont need to ask , the daily court sheets show a true reflection of daily actions

    unless you are calling me a lier , ?
    Originally posted by pappa golf
    I don't think I called you a 'lier' or even a 'liar'
    - The Daily Court sheets do indeed show the daily actions, however you seem to have just put the date and court.

    Question is why would there be an automatic presumption with PPA as a Claimant that the Defendant would be a customer.
    • pappa golf
    • By pappa golf 11th Feb 18, 11:06 PM
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    OK , I lie ,sussed me out

    it was the bloke that supplies them with envelopes ,
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    • logician
    • By logician 11th Feb 18, 11:19 PM
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    I doubt he charges for his services. Any evidence for that?
    Originally posted by Coupon-mad
    Yes but why don't you ask him about his "75 finders fee" arrangement offering to handle all letters and court claim documents
    • logician
    • By logician 11th Feb 18, 11:22 PM
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    Seems like you have an issue with him:



    I doubt he charges for his services. Any evidence for that?

    and:

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?p=73304631#post73304631

    and:

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?p=73708452#post73708452

    Seems like something of a vendetta against Barry Beavis, to any right-thinking reader:



    The only thing that 'appalled' the right-thinking regular posters here, were the reports of the aggressive conduct of the other lay rep, as recorded in transcripts that are in the public domain.
    Originally posted by Coupon-mad
    Yes Barry was well out of his depth in that case wasn't he.


    AS the outcome for that costs hearing had not been determined when published in the public domain.

    Seems like there was a vendetta about the other lay rep though as widely reported, given that the 'aggressive conduct' had not been determined in court or the lay rep having any opportunity to respond.

    I wonder what provoked any emails which were not supported by any witness statement or why Hocking did not mention those at the start of the trial, which would have been the correct procedure.

    Hearsay evidence at the best.

    The threads have confirmed the 'lies' told by the Claimant during the trial'.


    Tell me what is the current status of that costs order?
    Last edited by logician; 11-02-2018 at 11:38 PM.
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 11th Feb 18, 11:34 PM
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    As the outcome for that costs hearing had not been determined when published in the public domain. Tell me what is the current status of that costs order?
    You tell us, you obviously know?

    Someone was certainly floundering in that case, and posters have agreed it was an utter disgrace.

    Barry did his best.
    Last edited by Coupon-mad; 12-02-2018 at 5:07 PM.
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    • logician
    • By logician 12th Feb 18, 8:49 PM
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    AS the outcome for that costs hearing had not been determined when published in the public domain.
    Tell me what is the current status of that costs order?
    Originally posted by logician

    You tell us, you obviously know?
    Originally posted by Coupon-mad
    Why would I know?

    Perhaps you should ask your friend Brian.

    He is quite a card, co-incidentally having attacked completely different people away in various other fora.

    There was a cost order hearing down for September according to the 'public file' so flippantly put about in the public domain prior to any determination.

    All seems to have gone very quiet about any variations to such an order or any outcome to any hearing.




    Someone was certainly floundering in that case, and posters have agreed it was an utter disgrace.

    Barry did his best.
    Originally posted by Coupon-mad
    Which posters were these?

    Were you at the court hearing then?

    I am sure that Barry did try do his best - he was out of his depth.

    However, only going on the transcript available - i cannot fathom why he agreed with the Claimant that the Defendants had acted unreasonably in defending the claim. These were after all points which were mutually agreed apparently at the case management hearing by all parties and sanctioned by the Judge.
    Last edited by logician; 12-02-2018 at 8:55 PM.
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