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    • moneyistooshorttomention
    • By moneyistooshorttomention 7th Feb 18, 11:14 PM
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    Cataract treatment - can it really be true?
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    • 7th Feb 18, 11:14 PM
    Cataract treatment - can it really be true? 7th Feb 18 at 11:14 PM
    A friend of mine that also moved to Wales recently has been told (via an optician locally - not word of mouth from someone-in-the-street) that she will be made to wait one YEAR between the first eye being done and the second one being done.

    The optician said the reason is the powers-that-be in the Welsh NHS are refusing to take on people for those jobs if they don't speak Welsh and the posts are being left vacant!!!!!!!!!

    I've heard of someone other than the best person for the job being taken on. I've heard of the best person for the job being taken on and made to agree they will learn Welsh (in, say, 2 years).

    I've not heard the situation is as best as refusing to take on anyone suitable for these jobs if they can't find a Welsh speaker and then imposing a year wait on patients because of the resultant lack of staff (instead of the normal 3? months wait between eyes).

    Is that really true? - though I know it is an optician that said it ....so one must assume it is the truth.

    Has anyone any evidence of these posts being left unfilled for this "reason"?

    Has anyone been made to wait for more than 3 months to get their second eye done?
    Last edited by moneyistooshorttomention; 07-02-2018 at 11:17 PM.
    Fastest way to get a headache = try and make someone that thinks for themselves conform to local "group think"
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    • tooldle
    • By tooldle 11th Feb 18, 4:42 PM
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    Factual error flagged up - no it doesnt.

    As one comes over the border from England - the signs go English, then Welsh. One of the ways one can tell one has come as far as West Wales is that the order has changed and turned from that to putting Welsh first and English second.

    There is nothing laid down stating Welsh has to come first. It is just the preference of a few of the more Western counties of Wales. Other Welsh counties have the preference for it being the other way round.
    Originally posted by moneyistooshorttomention
    You are most definitely wrong. We are working through the many changes required in my workplace at present.
    • gettingtheresometime
    • By gettingtheresometime 11th Feb 18, 4:45 PM
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    Ah, so youíre Irish living in Wales!
    Originally posted by pollypenny
    Nope ......born & bred (& will probably die!) in Wales
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    • happyandcontented
    • By happyandcontented 11th Feb 18, 5:12 PM
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    Factual error flagged up - no it doesnt.

    As one comes over the border from England - the signs go English, then Welsh. One of the ways one can tell one has come as far as West Wales is that the order has changed and turned from that to putting Welsh first and English second.

    There is nothing laid down stating Welsh has to come first. It is just the preference of a few of the more Western counties of Wales. Other Welsh counties have the preference for it being the other way round.
    Originally posted by moneyistooshorttomention
    When you go "abroad" do you not make an effort to speak any words of the language? I think it is only polite and it is always well received. Certainly, if I lived somewhere full time I would make a real effort to do so.
    • pollypenny
    • By pollypenny 11th Feb 18, 6:12 PM
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    Nope ......born & bred (& will probably die!) in Wales
    Originally posted by gettingtheresometime


    Wow! I must be mad! I could have sworn you supported Ireland on all rugby threads.

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    • hunters
    • By hunters 11th Feb 18, 6:38 PM
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    Annual appt this week with optician so must ask the times between first and second eye as I read in another thread the OP is now saying the optician says it!!!8217;s four to six weeks from first eye to second. Maybe I should just ask a friend of a friend who asked their optician?
    • moneyistooshorttomention
    • By moneyistooshorttomention 11th Feb 18, 7:41 PM
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    When you go "abroad" do you not make an effort to speak any words of the language? I think it is only polite and it is always well received. Certainly, if I lived somewhere full time I would make a real effort to do so.
    Originally posted by happyandcontented
    Yes...when I go abroad I do.

    But I guess you know that....
    Fastest way to get a headache = try and make someone that thinks for themselves conform to local "group think"
    • happyandcontented
    • By happyandcontented 11th Feb 18, 10:06 PM
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    Yes...when I go abroad I do.

    But I guess you know that....
    Originally posted by moneyistooshorttomention
    No, genuinely, I didn't, how could I know that from your response here re Welsh? The two responses are diametrically opposed.
    • moneyistooshorttomention
    • By moneyistooshorttomention 12th Feb 18, 7:11 AM
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    I thought you were going in for the faux innocence a couple of posters have before now.

    I'm in Britain and not a foreign country though - as we know. Definition of foreign to a British person = some country outside Britain (eg France, Germany, Africa, etc).

    I wouldnt dream of regarding a Welsh, Scottish, Irish person in England as foreign. They're as British as I am.
    Last edited by moneyistooshorttomention; 12-02-2018 at 7:14 AM.
    Fastest way to get a headache = try and make someone that thinks for themselves conform to local "group think"
    • pollypenny
    • By pollypenny 12th Feb 18, 9:03 AM
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    I thought you were going in for the faux innocence a couple of posters have before now.

    I'm in Britain and not a foreign country though - as we know. Definition of foreign to a British person = some country outside Britain (eg France, Germany, Africa, etc).

    I wouldnt dream of regarding a Welsh, Scottish, Irish person in England as foreign. They're as British as I am.
    Originally posted by moneyistooshorttomention


    Money, it is you who is being disingenuous. Wales is a country, as are England, Scotland and Ireland. We come together as Britain or the UK.

    You continually dismiss the individual identities of Welsh, in particular.
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    • gettingtheresometime
    • By gettingtheresometime 12th Feb 18, 4:00 PM
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    I thought you were going in for the faux innocence a couple of posters have before now.

    I'm in Britain and not a foreign country though - as we know. Definition of foreign to a British person = some country outside Britain (eg France, Germany, Africa, etc).

    I wouldnt dream of regarding a Welsh, Scottish, Irish person in England as foreign. They're as British as I am.
    Originally posted by moneyistooshorttomention



    The term British is a term that covers the people of England, Wales, Scotland & NI which have been linked together through a number of Acts of Parliament - Wales & England in 1536 (though I guess some people would argue 1284), Scotland joined E&W in 1707 with NI joining in in 1800.


    Take away those man made Acts and you have English, Welsh, Scotish & Northern Irish people.
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    • moneyistooshorttomention
    • By moneyistooshorttomention 12th Feb 18, 5:35 PM
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    Trying to recall a news item on the radio today - about an incident that happened abroad - but do recall the announcer was calling them "British" and not "English, Irish, Scottish, Welsh or anything else one can think of".

    You might like to look a bit further back whilst you're on the subject:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Age_tribes_in_Britain

    or maybe we'll just think Picts, Saxons, Normans....

    or a different direction and call us all Europeans....
    Last edited by moneyistooshorttomention; 12-02-2018 at 5:37 PM.
    Fastest way to get a headache = try and make someone that thinks for themselves conform to local "group think"
    • Red-Squirrel
    • By Red-Squirrel 12th Feb 18, 11:35 PM
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    Trying to recall a news item on the radio today - about an incident that happened abroad - but do recall the announcer was calling them "British" and not "English, Irish, Scottish, Welsh or anything else one can think of".

    You might like to look a bit further back whilst you're on the subject:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Age_tribes_in_Britain

    or maybe we'll just think Picts, Saxons, Normans....

    or a different direction and call us all Europeans....
    Originally posted by moneyistooshorttomention
    Why is it so important to you to deny that Wales is a country? Legally, officially, in every way that matters, it is one. I genuinely don't understand why it bothers you so much?

    England is a country too, did you get so het up about that when you lived there?
    • wondercollie
    • By wondercollie 13th Feb 18, 7:38 AM
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    The term British is a term that covers the people of England, Wales, Scotland & NI which have been linked together through a number of Acts of Parliament - Wales & England in 1536 (though I guess some people would argue 1284), Scotland joined E&W in 1707 with NI joining in in 1800.


    Take away those man made Acts and you have English, Welsh, Scotish & Northern Irish people.
    Originally posted by gettingtheresometime
    Erm, a Scottish king inherited the English crown. It could be argued that England and Wales joined Scotland under the Act of Union 1706.
    • pmduk
    • By pmduk 19th Feb 18, 4:37 PM
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    Ironically since this post was created I've been referred for cataract surgery myself. First assessment for surgery with the surgeon 7 days after diagnosis and, if suitable, the surgery to take place within the next fortnight!
    • Floss
    • By Floss 20th Feb 18, 8:25 PM
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    Annual appt this week with optician so must ask the times between first and second eye as I read in another thread the OP is now saying the optician says it!!!8217;s four to six weeks from first eye to second. Maybe I should just ask a friend of a friend who asked their optician?
    Originally posted by hunters
    I think you'd be best asking your dentist or chiropodist TBH
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