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    • northwest1965
    • By northwest1965 6th Feb 18, 6:18 PM
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    Electrical Cert for Rental
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    • 6th Feb 18, 6:18 PM
    Electrical Cert for Rental 6th Feb 18 at 6:18 PM
    We had an electrical check and certificate issued in May 2013.

    I have had another check on the property again and received the certificate.

    The report has the address of the property under client and not my home address. (They know its a rental)
    for client it says - current occupier
    no house number on certificate.

    With regard to test results.....
    all circuits, Insulation resistance. If 2 is correct, is that very low.

    I have been told the following
    IR is in the range of 1 to 200+, and 1 or less is a fail requiring remedial work. I bet he hasn't measured each circuit, rather the IR of the whole board, which is fine if the readings are towards the top end, but in this case, with a reading of 2, he should have gone on to test each circuit separately.

    Thanks
    Loved our trip to the West Coast USA. Death Valley is the place to go!
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    • anselld
    • By anselld 6th Feb 18, 6:27 PM
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    • 6th Feb 18, 6:27 PM
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    • 6th Feb 18, 6:27 PM
    For an EICR he should have tested each circuit anyway.

    IR of 2M is a fault of some sort and should be investigated. Usual culprit is any outside wiring if you have it on that circuit.
    • northwest1965
    • By northwest1965 6th Feb 18, 6:39 PM
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    • 6th Feb 18, 6:39 PM
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    • 6th Feb 18, 6:39 PM
    For an EICR he should have tested each circuit anyway.

    IR of 2M is a fault of some sort and should be investigated. Usual culprit is any outside wiring if you have it on that circuit.
    Originally posted by anselld
    He tested 7 circuits -sockets downstairs, RCD, cooker, sockets upstairs, basement socket, washer pump and lights downstairs. For all IR they are 2

    Another highlighted point was
    Nature of Supply Parameters, prospective fault current - He didn't measure it, he's just used the electricity company's theoretical maximum. In practice, it's nowhere near that figure in a domestic property

    Surely if that is the case a cert should not have been issued?

    I have concerns
    Loved our trip to the West Coast USA. Death Valley is the place to go!
    • G_M
    • By G_M 6th Feb 18, 7:23 PM
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    • 6th Feb 18, 7:23 PM
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    • 6th Feb 18, 7:23 PM
    Well before you pay his invoice, ring him to get the details confirmed and the certificate re-issued.
    • northwest1965
    • By northwest1965 9th Feb 18, 7:07 AM
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    • 9th Feb 18, 7:07 AM
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    • 9th Feb 18, 7:07 AM
    4 certificates later, we have the correct one.

    If I hadn't shown it to an electrician friend (sadly who lives too far away from me) I would have loads of incorrect information on the cert. I really should not be telling him what to put on the cert.

    From the error of IR of 2M being incorrect to the wrong type of wiring, 1-phase (2 wire) He put 3 wire. etc etc

    He quoted me 120 + vat.

    Am I within my right to not pay the full amount and does anyone know of a template letter?
    Loved our trip to the West Coast USA. Death Valley is the place to go!
    • ProDave
    • By ProDave 9th Feb 18, 9:16 AM
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    • 9th Feb 18, 9:16 AM
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    • 9th Feb 18, 9:16 AM
    If he didn't even measure PFC then he did not do the job. How many other short cuts did he take. Certainly do no use him again.
    • anselld
    • By anselld 9th Feb 18, 9:44 AM
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    • 9th Feb 18, 9:44 AM
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    • 9th Feb 18, 9:44 AM
    4 certificates later, we have the correct one.
    Originally posted by northwest1965
    He quoted me 120 + vat.

    Am I within my right to not pay the full amount and does anyone know of a template letter?
    Originally posted by northwest1965
    If indeed it is now correct (and he actually did the correct tests) then your complaints have been resolved. Poor performance but got there in the end.

    I dont think you would have right to underpay without negotiation.
    • dimbo61
    • By dimbo61 9th Feb 18, 11:45 AM
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    • 9th Feb 18, 11:45 AM
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    • 9th Feb 18, 11:45 AM
    I recently paid 160 for an electrical inspection so 120+ vat is about right.
    Pay up as this is a tax deductible expense and proves the electrics are safe.
    • northwest1965
    • By northwest1965 9th Feb 18, 4:19 PM
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    • 9th Feb 18, 4:19 PM
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    • 9th Feb 18, 4:19 PM
    I recently paid 160 for an electrical inspection so 120+ vat is about right.
    Pay up as this is a tax deductible expense and proves the electrics are safe.
    Originally posted by dimbo61
    Obviously you just decided to comment without reading about all the faults of the company.

    They have agreed for us to only pay half of the bill

    Safety is paramount to us, hence making sure the company did it right!
    Loved our trip to the West Coast USA. Death Valley is the place to go!
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