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    • Kooks
    • By Kooks 6th Feb 18, 11:48 AM
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    Confused - help please
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    • 6th Feb 18, 11:48 AM
    Confused - help please 6th Feb 18 at 11:48 AM
    Last Friday I received a parking charge notice from an NCP railway station parking area for not correctly parking within the space.
    There are huge parking problems at this station as they closed another private operator, the land was then passed over to NCP who have created hundreds of new parking spaces but this has yet to open as there is now some dispute with the council. This has been an issue for months now with far too many cars v spaces, hence drivers have parked wherever they can without blocking other drivers and to my knowledge i have never seen a parking ticket up until now.
    There first thing I noticed on the pcn was the location stated is not the place where the offence was committed.
    Secondly when I go to the website to view the contravention it does not recognise the pin number or my cars registration.
    I'm not sure whether I should just ignore this PCN or not??

    Many Thanks & sorry for the wordy post
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    • pappa golf
    • By pappa golf 6th Feb 18, 11:53 AM
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    • 6th Feb 18, 11:53 AM
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    • 6th Feb 18, 11:53 AM
    this is railway , so possibly a bylaw offence NOT a parking charge

    please read up on railway bylaws
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    • Fruitcake
    • By Fruitcake 6th Feb 18, 12:26 PM
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    • 6th Feb 18, 12:26 PM
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    • 6th Feb 18, 12:26 PM
    Start by reading the Sticky thread for NEWBIES. If The Driver received a windscreen ticket that mentions byelaws, then The Keeper waits for the NTK.
    If The Keeper has received a NTK, then they appeal using the template from the NEWBIES thread.

    Edit your post to remove any information about who did what. Only ever refer to The Driver and The Keeper.
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    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 6th Feb 18, 1:26 PM
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    • 6th Feb 18, 1:26 PM
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    • 6th Feb 18, 1:26 PM
    Not a byelaws penalty. NCP don't do them.

    Send the usual template on day 26 as per the NEWBIES advice. No saying who was driving!
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • Kooks
    • By Kooks 6th Feb 18, 1:52 PM
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    • 6th Feb 18, 1:52 PM
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    • 6th Feb 18, 1:52 PM
    Thank you for the replies
    I was interested in whether the charge is still valid as they put the wrong location down? plus as I cant find the pcn number on the NCP website am I still answerable?
    • pappa golf
    • By pappa golf 6th Feb 18, 1:59 PM
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    • 6th Feb 18, 1:59 PM
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    • 6th Feb 18, 1:59 PM
    Not a byelaws penalty. NCP don't do them.

    Send the usual template on day 26 as per the NEWBIES advice. No saying who was driving!
    Originally posted by Coupon-mad

    sorry CM

    is the land not covered by railway bylaws?
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    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 6th Feb 18, 10:40 PM
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    • 6th Feb 18, 10:40 PM
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    • 6th Feb 18, 10:40 PM
    Yeah but no!

    Yes the land is, but no need to mention it with NCP at first appeal. The OP will get a POPLA code.
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • Kooks
    • By Kooks 7th Feb 18, 12:06 PM
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    • 7th Feb 18, 12:06 PM
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    • 7th Feb 18, 12:06 PM
    Can anyone respond to this specifically?
    I was interested in whether the charge is still valid as they put the wrong location down? plus as I cant find the pcn number on the NCP website am I still answerable?
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 7th Feb 18, 1:57 PM
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    • 7th Feb 18, 1:57 PM
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    • 7th Feb 18, 1:57 PM
    Try the system again in a week, maybe the person who issued it hasn't uploaded it yet.
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • The Deep
    • By The Deep 7th Feb 18, 2:55 PM
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    This will not be your best card. No keeper liability on land covered by byelaws will trump it.


    http://www.parkingcowboys.co.uk/byelaws/

    Have you watched this?

    http://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/2f0384f2-eba5-4fff-ab07-cf24b6a22918?in=12:49:41

    If not, please do so and complain in the strongest terms to your MP. it is time these scammers were put down.
    Last edited by The Deep; 07-02-2018 at 3:08 PM.
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    • Kooks
    • By Kooks 2nd Mar 18, 11:27 AM
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    The contravention has suddenly appeared online some 26 days later, during that time it was not possible to appeal or even pay the reduced fine of 50 as the pcn was not recognised.
    The fine has now increased to 75 grrrrr
    I have been back to the station three times and noted that approx 15 cars are not parked within correct bays, none have tickets
    What are my options?
    • Fruitcake
    • By Fruitcake 2nd Mar 18, 11:35 AM
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    The contravention has suddenly appeared online some 26 days later, during that time it was not possible to appeal or even pay the reduced fine of 50 as the pcn was not recognised.
    The fine has now increased to 75 grrrrr
    I have been back to the station three times and noted that approx 15 cars are not parked within correct bays, none have tickets
    What are my options?
    Originally posted by Kooks
    I would appeal now, online.

    It is not a fine. It has not increased. You owe nothing and you want the MSE 100% discount. Did you take pics of the entrance, and signage around the site when you revisited? If not, do so next time you are there.

    You should also complain to your MP.

    These are some of the comments made by the MPs in Parliament concerning the unregulated parking industry (Feb 2018):

    https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2018-02-02/debates/CC84AF5E-AC6E-4E14-81B1-066E6A892807/Parking(CodeOfPractice)Bill

    ''Rip-offs from car park Cowboys must stop''; unfair treatment; signage deliberately confusing to ensure a PCN is issued; ''years of abuse by rogue parking companies''; bloodsuckers; ''the current system of regulation is hopeless, like putting Dracula in charge of the blood-bank''; extortionate fines; rogue operators; ''sense of injustice''; unfair charges and notices; wilfully misleading; signage is a deliberate act to deceive or mislead; ''confusing signs are often deliberate, to trap innocent drivers''; unreasonable; a curse; harassing; operating in a disgusting way; appeals service is no guarantee of a fair hearing; loathed; outrageous scam; dodgy practice; outrageous abuse; unscrupulous practices; ''the British Parking Association is as much use as a multi-storey car park in the Gobi desert''; and finally, by way of unanimous conclusion: ''we need to crack down on these rogue companies. They are an absolute disgrace to this country. Ordinary motorists and ordinary residents should not have to put up with this''.

    These are the exact words used, so you should quote them to your MP in a complaint and ask him/her to contact Sir Greg Knight MP if he wants further information about this scam.
    Last edited by Fruitcake; 02-03-2018 at 11:38 AM.
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