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    • aj9648
    • By aj9648 2nd Feb 18, 9:07 PM
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    Guitar for a 7 year old
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    • 2nd Feb 18, 9:07 PM
    Guitar for a 7 year old 2nd Feb 18 at 9:07 PM
    Hi

    Not sure if this is the right place for this....my 7 year wants to learn to play the guitar. Not sure if itís a serious thing or not but I canít say no as I never had the opportunity

    Given I have never played any instrument anyone help with where I should start with it?

    Thanks
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    • PrettyKittyKat
    • By PrettyKittyKat 2nd Feb 18, 9:19 PM
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    We bought a childrens guitar from a music shop when the youngest started learning to play. I wouldn't spend too much as he may soon loose interest like mine!
    I would search selling pages on facebook or look oneBay for a childrens guitar and then watch some youtube videos to start with!
    • JIL
    • By JIL 2nd Feb 18, 11:40 PM
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    They have children sized acoustic guitars in Argos. All my children learned to play the guitar, one had lessons at school. The other two learned chords via the internet.

    http://www.argos.co.uk/browse/sports-and-leisure/musical-instruments/guitars-and-accessories/acoustic-guitars/c:30690/
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    • rach_k
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    I would ask about opportunities in school first. At my kids!!!8217; school, Year 4 learn as a class, with guitars supplied.
    Last edited by rach_k; 03-02-2018 at 12:02 PM.
    • theoretica
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    Start by looking for teachers or a trial lesson, it is a waste to buy an instrument and then be told it is wrong or better deals exist.
    But a banker, engaged at enormous expense,
    Had the whole of their cash in his care.
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    • aj9648
    • By aj9648 3rd Feb 18, 1:03 PM
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    Hi

    Thanks for reply. The class is at school but they don!!!8217;t have enough equipment so have asked parents to provide
    • sheramber
    • By sheramber 3rd Feb 18, 7:00 PM
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    • 3rd Feb 18, 7:00 PM
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    • 3rd Feb 18, 7:00 PM
    Hi

    Thanks for reply. The class is at school but they don!!!8217;t have enough equipment so have asked parents to provide
    Originally posted by aj9648
    Then ask the school for advice on what to buy. Can you buy th same as the school use?
    • Jojo the Tightfisted
    • By Jojo the Tightfisted 3rd Feb 18, 8:01 PM
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    Half size Spanish guitar. Go to a real music shop, not online or Argos. And ask the person in the shop to play it, run your fingers along the neck to check for rough edges to the frets - they may throw in a set up for free, a discount for external lessons if LO wants to continue after the school's budget has run out for lessons, etc.

    Clip on chromatic tuner at home, along with a pack of LR2012 (flat) batteries from Amazon. About £3. You won't need an expensive one.

    Pack of Alice brand nylon strings from Amazon, light gauge/tension. About £3.45 when I ordered some for work yesterday afternoon.

    Case with a long strap (easier to carry on the school run than just two little handles). The shop might be prepared to throw it in for free.

    Name on the back and on the case.


    Change out of £40 for bottom level, £60 if you go for something a bit nicer/better made, £80 if you want something more. £120 if you want to go for a big name/something that, with a few repairs, would still be used everyday in a school 25 years after purchase (like the ones at work).

    You don't need picks/plectrums, straps, for Spanishes. 'Acoustics' tends to mean steel strung, which is a little rough on little fingers.

    Oh, and about £3 for a couple of packets of stickers so LO can personalise their instrument. (which also ensures that nobody else takes the guitar home because they've bought the identical one and snapped a tuning peg/machine head or stood on theirs - character stickers on the front will make it harder to remove all evidence of it being your LO's - like sewn in name badges lessen the chance of you being left with the manky, shrunken 5 year old school jumper instead of the brand new one you got at Christmas )


    5-10 minutes practice a day will make them improve more than 95% of the class, you'll spend a lot of time retuning the guitar when the strings are new. Keep it away from radiators, don't leave it laying on the floor, and, if you want practice to be something done by choice, reverse psychology suggests allowing them to play guitar when told it's time to do their timestables/spellings/etc, as they associate it with good things, rather than homework/interfering with TV time.


    [I do this for a living]
    Last edited by Jojo the Tightfisted; 03-02-2018 at 8:06 PM.
    I could dream to wide extremes, I could do or die: I could yawn and be withdrawn and watch the world go by.

    Yup you are officially Rock n Roll
    Originally posted by colinw
    • aj9648
    • By aj9648 9th Feb 18, 10:36 PM
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    Jojo- thanks - that was great. Going to a shop tomorrow
    • Robots
    • By Robots 12th Feb 18, 8:12 AM
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    I!!!8217;m glad going to a proper music shop was suggested. It!!!8217;s a good idea to buy a decent instrument (funds allowing) as the sound will be so much better - hopefully meaning your little one is more likely to enjoy it and stick with it!
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    • Mr_Toad
    • By Mr_Toad 7th Apr 18, 6:04 PM
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    The problem is that they often lose interest because the instrument is so poor as to be unplayable.

    There are good value instruments that do play quite well but go to a music shop. Buying on-line is so tempting but not a good idea, you need to hear it and see if it's up to the job.
    One by one the penguins are slowly stealing my sanity.
    • Smodlet
    • By Smodlet 7th Apr 18, 6:12 PM
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    Jojo's suggestion is brilliant... If you have money to burn or "know" your LO is going to be the next Andre Segovias. What if he decides he wants a skateboard next week? Or to learn to surf the week after?
    What is this life if, sweet wordsmith, we have no time to take the pith?
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    • Jojo the Tightfisted
    • By Jojo the Tightfisted 7th Apr 18, 9:08 PM
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    Jojo's suggestion is brilliant... If you have money to burn or "know" your LO is going to be the next Andre Segovias. What if he decides he wants a skateboard next week? Or to learn to surf the week after?
    Originally posted by Smodlet
    Did you mean Andres Segovia, dear?

    I'm not aware of many primaries in the UK offering skateboarding or surf tuition during the school day, but I would imagine that if the child wants to try those activities, they can do them after school, thus enabling guitar lessons to continue to the end of term as normal - when a half decent guitar can be sold to someone in the next group.
    I could dream to wide extremes, I could do or die: I could yawn and be withdrawn and watch the world go by.

    Yup you are officially Rock n Roll
    Originally posted by colinw
    • Smodlet
    • By Smodlet 8th Apr 18, 5:38 AM
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    Did you mean Andres Segovia, dear?

    I'm not aware of many primaries in the UK offering skateboarding or surf tuition during the school day, but I would imagine that if the child wants to try those activities, they can do them after school, thus enabling guitar lessons to continue to the end of term as normal - when a half decent guitar can be sold to someone in the next group.
    Originally posted by Jojo the Tightfisted
    This is supposed to be a money saving site, dear. I'd wait at least six months before buying any guitar.
    What is this life if, sweet wordsmith, we have no time to take the pith?
    Every stew starts with the first onion.
    I took it upon myself to investigate a trifle; it had custard, jelly, soggy sponge things...
    • Jojo the Tightfisted
    • By Jojo the Tightfisted 8th Apr 18, 1:08 PM
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    This is supposed to be a money saving site, dear. I'd wait at least six months before buying any guitar.
    Originally posted by Smodlet
    If there are decent ones of the right size with cases that can be supplied and taken home every night and during school holidays, yes. And if a refusal to consider buying doesn't mean that there won't be enough to go around for the children whose parents genuinely cannot afford one at all.

    Children are more likely to engage with any learning if they feel their parents support it. Why not, if it's possible to buy one without suffering, get one and leave the ones knocking around in the back of the music cupboard for the kids whose families genuinely cannot afford £40 on top of the tuition fees, whilst your own child gets the satisfaction of having their own instrument to play?

    By giving accurate information about what is actually needed, how to get the best for several price levels, I think I've enabled moneysaving choices to be made more than dismissing the child out of hand - just as this site does with buying and running cars, washing machines, holidays, clothing, mobiles, phone/internet and TV packages. You could easily say 'moneysaving' dictates that nobody needs a TV as all they'll be doing is grumbling that there's nothing on by Friday evening or that a holiday is a waste when you have somewhere to live. But this site doesn't do that - it gives people information so they can make their own choices.

    It's not harmful or ridiculous to answer the question asked with actual facts rather than dismissing the idea and the child out of hand - or attacking the person who gave the information for being so forward as to actually answer the question asked.

    Nobody knows whether a decision made for a child is going to have long term effects. The odds are that they are not going to be an internationally renowned classical musician; it's just as likely that they might decide they don't want to continue lessons, change to bass, change to drums or not come back to it until they're 14 or 18 or 38. They might spend happy Monday nights after work playing at a session night or jam when they're in their 50s. Or they could end up playing in the Bahamas in a fortnight, like my OH is. It's just as well that his parents didn't baulk at the sixty quid they spent on buying him his first guitar, really.


    There's a considerable difference between the price and the value of something. Spotting the potential value and getting the best you can for your budget is moneysaving.
    I could dream to wide extremes, I could do or die: I could yawn and be withdrawn and watch the world go by.

    Yup you are officially Rock n Roll
    Originally posted by colinw
    • sheramber
    • By sheramber 8th Apr 18, 1:43 PM
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    My first choice would be to ask what kind the school have and buy the same?

    W e bought our son's in a local music shop who gave advice on what to buy. That was many years ago but it was not expensive at the time.
    • keepcalmandstayoutofdebt
    • By keepcalmandstayoutofdebt 8th Apr 18, 5:06 PM
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    Appreciate it may be rather late for this particular poster, but this site is worth a look

    http://www.takeitaway.org.uk/about-take-it-away/
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