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    • shaggydoo
    • By shaggydoo 30th Jan 18, 2:46 PM
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    Cutting Down Alcohol Thread
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    • 30th Jan 18, 2:46 PM
    Cutting Down Alcohol Thread 30th Jan 18 at 2:46 PM
    Hi Guys,

    Sadly we lost our thread and I don't personally keep a private record of others AFDs so all data on the old thread is gone.

    I've decided I'm going to bow out for a while as I'm actually pretty busy here in RL. And my life is about to get really hectic as I'm moving home....Also it will be hard to have challenges if data is getting lost. Sorry guys.

    ....It's been great...maybe I'll be back in a few months...

    Ta Ta For Now.

    Shaggyx
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    • cathybird
    • By cathybird 9th Jul 18, 10:39 AM
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    Hey it's quiet on here. I'm surprised to be honest - when it's this hot I don't feel like a drink at all. I just want to lie down while someone fans me with a big palm fan!
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    • maman
    • By maman 9th Jul 18, 2:57 PM
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    Hey it's quiet on here. I'm surprised to be honest - when it's this hot I don't feel like a drink at all. I just want to lie down while someone fans me with a big palm fan!
    Originally posted by cathybird

    Let me know when you find someone!


    At last I'm going to get an AF day on the board for July.


    1/10 AFDs please Baileys.
    • cathybird
    • By cathybird 10th Jul 18, 7:09 AM
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    Morning all, 9/21 for me please.


    Hey welcome back Maman - I was missing you! I nearly posted to say so yesterday.
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    • fatrab
    • By fatrab 10th Jul 18, 8:27 AM
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    Morning all,


    Mrs fatrab was kind enough to pass her bug from last week on to me so I've been ill since Friday. The plus side to this is that I am now on 10/28 AFDs and 10/31 TAFDs for the month and I lost 11lbs in 3 days - I wont go into the specifics!! Lets just say it wasn't the crash diet that I had in mind!


    No notion to drink for the rest of the month, I was looking forward to my birthday celebrations but it wasn't to be! There's always next year!


    Suppose another good thing is that I am now 100 days AF
    You can have results or excuses, but not both.
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    New challenge from 10th July - Lose 1 pound per week for 10 weeks!
    • Honey Bear
    • By Honey Bear 10th Jul 18, 8:51 AM
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    Hope it's ok I post here. I really need to STOP drinking. So I'm setting myself a 365 day challenge.

    This is day 1.

    Wish me luck.

    wintersunshine
    Originally posted by wintersunshine
    Welcome WinterSunshine! Of course it's okay to post here, that's what the thread's for.

    You're saying exactly the same thing as I did when I first posted on this thread - it was time I had to stop, as well. I simply couldn't go on living like that any more and I knew it. Without everyone on this thread and Belle's support I don't know that I would have made it, so if you find yourself tempted please remember that we're here for you. There are strategies you can adopt to get you through situations that might be tricky. It's a tough habit to crack but it's do-able and well worth it. I wouldn't go back to drinking even if I thought I could manage to stop after one or two - which is doubtful because I never could in the past.

    The thing I remember most vividly about stopping overnight was that I was utterly exhausted for the first two weeks, and even after that my energy levels weren't brilliant. We forget how much sugar there is in alcohol and if you've been over-indulging for a while, you're probably used to functioning on high sugar levels. Now is absolutely not the right time to be dieting - eat chocolate or whatever your secret indulgence is to keep your sugar levels topped up. It'll help get you through the first few weeks and it really, really helps. You can worry about other health concerns like losing weight (if you think you need to) later. One thing at a time is enough.

    I took to going to be early and reading books and blogs written by people who sounded a lot like me who were stopping or had stopped drinking. It informed my journey massively and I'm not sure I'd be where I am without all of the reading I did, either.

    Good luck and please post every day. It works.

    Ah, thank God for AFDs.

    That's an impressively quick weight loss, Honey Bear - I'm trying to cut down on sugar and carby things myself, though haven't really organised myself to do it properly yet. Are you cutting out all sugars (eg fruit, honey) or just refined sugar, if you don't mind my asking?
    Originally posted by cathybird
    I couldn't agree more about the AFDs!

    Added sugar, CathyBird. I'm still addicted to sugar and I know it - if I buy myself a box of Malte$ers as a treet I can't stop eating them until the box is empty. And the same with a T3rry's choc orange - one session and it's gone. So for me, fruit is fine - I'm never tempted to eat a whole bag of apples! - but added sugar is absolutely not. No sugar on strawberries, no honey, nothing. And yesterday I decided that carbs aren't helping me one bit, so they're off the menu until this weight is gone.

    Having said that, I'm at this for a few events over the course of 10 days and it's really easy to get chatting with lovely people coming out of a talk, which almost always ends up with going to tea/coffee and cake. I've been taking my own food when I'm there all day but yesterday OH joined me for two talks in the evening and we had dinner in between. I was very good and took the batter off the fish but the chips were fab, as was the sticky toffee pudding, and I think I may have had half a slice of chocolate cake with him when he arrived in the afternoon as well. Not one of my better days and I'm not going to weigh myself until a few days after the festival is over.

    I am, however, going to be carb and sugar-free until this spare tyre is gone because even losing a kilo I can feel the difference and it feels, okay felt, fab. It's only for a few weeks because if I don't over-indulge with boxes of chocolates or a handful of Twinks every single day, my weight doesn't fluctuate that much.

    I have a 5kg bag of sugar in the store cupboard for when I make jam, marmalade and chutneys. It's really, really heavy when I pick it up and that's the excess me that I'm dragging around all the time. Pointless. It's got to go.

    10/31 please, Baileys.
    Last edited by Honey Bear; 10-07-2018 at 8:58 AM.
    Keeping it AF
    • Honey Bear
    • By Honey Bear 10th Jul 18, 9:08 AM
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    Cross-posted with you, FatRab.



    Congratulations on the weightloss, sorry about the way it happened, huge congratulations on the 100 Days and happy birthday!
    Keeping it AF
    • fatrab
    • By fatrab 10th Jul 18, 9:47 AM
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    Cross-posted with you, FatRab.

    Congratulations on the weightloss, sorry about the way it happened, huge congratulations on the 100 Days and happy birthday!
    Originally posted by Honey Bear
    Lol, thanks


    I'm also cutting down carbs for the next few months. I'm determined to get down to my target weight by the end of September, and I know carbs don't agree with me. When I've done fad-diets in the past the low-or-no carb options always had the best results but were so hard to stick to.


    Bloomin' carbs are everywhere - most fruit and some veg are going to be off the table for me too.


    I am also a firm believer that "diet" soft drinks don't help. I know there's all the hoo-ha about artificial sweeteners, but a few years ago Mrs fatrab lost 6lbs in 2 weeks by simply cutting out a well known Scottish diet drink (made in Scotland - from girders!) and switching to water.


    Best of luck
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    New challenge from 10th July - Lose 1 pound per week for 10 weeks!
    • Wanna Bee Free
    • By Wanna Bee Free 10th Jul 18, 10:16 PM
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    Congratulations on 100 days Fatrab, sorry about the reason.

    I have two more to add for yesterday and today. Ate an ice cream and muffins to stave off the desire to drink. Sleep well everyone. 3/15
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    • Itisme
    • By Itisme 11th Jul 18, 3:57 AM
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    2/7 please.
    • wintersunshine
    • By wintersunshine 11th Jul 18, 7:45 AM
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    Hope it's ok I post here. I really need to STOP drinking. So I'm setting myself a 365 day challenge.


    This is day 1.


    Wish me luck.


    wintersunshine
    Originally posted by wintersunshine

    Finished day 3 and am on day 4. First night slept ok, but day 2 barely slept at all. But last night had ace Zzzzzzzs.



    Feeling good today and I know I'm now probably through the worst in terms of any physical withdrawal and all mental from here.


    Out tomorrow night but with a group of friends who don't drink much so they wont be bothered if I'm not drinking.


    Thanks for reading.


    Wintersunshine.
    Lose Weight 36 : Join Date 14th July 2016
    6/7 Llbs
    • wintersunshine
    • By wintersunshine 11th Jul 18, 7:48 AM
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    Hi Wintershine you can do it !.
    I have been AF for 2457 days now (6 years 8months and 22 days).
    I have done it by concentrating my mind on doing the things I used to do when I was drinking but doing them without the booze.
    At the height of my drinking I was drinking 24-36 500ml cans of Belgian Stella Artois per weekend - I never drank during the week as I work.
    Now my weekends include playing my favourite PC games and listening to the football - and remembering it !.
    Please take my story as an inspiration that you can do it !.
    Originally posted by antonic

    Thank You!



    And Well Done yourself!
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    • wintersunshine
    • By wintersunshine 11th Jul 18, 7:56 AM
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    Good luck and please post every day. It works.
    Originally posted by Honey Bear

    I've experienced alcohol withdrawal symptoms over the last few days according to Dr Google - sleep problems, slight heart palpatations, even anxiety : no sweats though! I,ve been drinking about 5 to 7 units every night for about 4 years - I have had the odd stretches of AFDs so averagely I've been drinking about 5 nights each week. Too much.



    ....I think this alone will frighten me into keeping going!


    Once upon a time my body never needed alcohol - I wanna be living that life again.
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    • cathybird
    • By cathybird 11th Jul 18, 8:13 AM
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    Morning all, 10/21 for me today please.
    No. 15 in Save 12K in 2018. 3,428.97/12,000
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    July AFDs: 14/21. 2018 AFDs: 167/260. 2017: 306/252
    Mortgage 1/6/18: 46,436.38. 45,287.62 Paid off: 1,148.76
    • cathybird
    • By cathybird 11th Jul 18, 1:50 PM
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    Added sugar, CathyBird. I'm still addicted to sugar and I know it - if I buy myself a box of Malte$ers as a treet I can't stop eating them until the box is empty. And the same with a T3rry's choc orange - one session and it's gone. So for me, fruit is fine - I'm never tempted to eat a whole bag of apples! - but added sugar is absolutely not. No sugar on strawberries, no honey, nothing. And yesterday I decided that carbs aren't helping me one bit, so they're off the menu until this weight is gone.

    Having said that, I'm at this for a few events over the course of 10 days and it's really easy to get chatting with lovely people coming out of a talk, which almost always ends up with going to tea/coffee and cake. I've been taking my own food when I'm there all day but yesterday OH joined me for two talks in the evening and we had dinner in between. I was very good and took the batter off the fish but the chips were fab, as was the sticky toffee pudding, and I think I may have had half a slice of chocolate cake with him when he arrived in the afternoon as well. Not one of my better days and I'm not going to weigh myself until a few days after the festival is over.

    I am, however, going to be carb and sugar-free until this spare tyre is gone because even losing a kilo I can feel the difference and it feels, okay felt, fab. It's only for a few weeks because if I don't over-indulge with boxes of chocolates or a handful of Twinks every single day, my weight doesn't fluctuate that much.

    I have a 5kg bag of sugar in the store cupboard for when I make jam, marmalade and chutneys. It's really, really heavy when I pick it up and that's the excess me that I'm dragging around all the time. Pointless. It's got to go.
    Originally posted by Honey Bear
    While I was out drinking with my mate the other night and we were both trollied she informed me drunkenly that I really should lose 10kg so that's good to know, I would have said 5kg myself as I'm not that chunky (honest), and to be fair she was talking about herself but just kindly including me in on it ha ha, but I've got a sweet tooth I struggle to deal with, and so am trying to severely minimise sugar myself. Don't know if I should mention this but M*nt*zum*'s do chocolate with no added sugar of any kind (no artificial sweeteners either, 100% chocolate), which I am finding really helps because it has that chocolate thing going on but is very dense and I can't eat that much of it. I'd like to make that my preferred chocolate on a permanent basis, in fact. I'd also like to be fairly low-carb as a general principle but it is tricky - happy to forgo rice and pasta, and indeed other grains, but the thought of never eating bread or potatoes I just find mildly depressing. I might just try to minimise those things, rather than give them up altogether.

    The thing is last I looked the thinnest and longest-lived people on earth, statistically speaking, were the Japanese and they eat quite a bit of white rice - not as much as is widely assumed but carbs do figure in their diet. Also the Scandinavians don't seem to have an obesity problem and they eat loads of bread (mostly rye, it has to be said) and also potatoes. So that makes me wonder how low you really need to go with carbs, just as a matter of general principle. Anyway, just thinking aloud here.
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    July AFDs: 14/21. 2018 AFDs: 167/260. 2017: 306/252
    Mortgage 1/6/18: 46,436.38. 45,287.62 Paid off: 1,148.76
    • maman
    • By maman 11th Jul 18, 3:08 PM
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    Hey welcome back Maman - I was missing you! I nearly posted to say so yesterday.
    Originally posted by cathybird

    Thanks for that cathy.


    July isn't going well so far. I managed to get an AFD on Monday but decided to have a drink watching last night and tonight is going to be more of the same. Next week I'll be 100% back to taking it seriously though. Promise.


    I need to join in with those of you losing a few lbs. too as I have the usual post holiday weight gain to deal with. Cutting the alcohol helps a bit but it's the food too. I don't have a problem with sugar, hardly ever have any other than occasional honey in cooking or a squirt of syrup on porage but as it isn't porage weather I'm not too worried about that. What works for me is to have meals piled high with veg to edge out the carbs. I don't cut them out completely just try for once a day and a small amount.
    • fatrab
    • By fatrab 11th Jul 18, 4:07 PM
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    I don't think there's anything wrong with carbs if you have an active enough lifestyle. It's when your diet it 80% carbs and your idea of exercise is running to the car when it's raining - then you're in trouble!! (like me lol)


    I folded last night. Tried a pink gin for the first time, which was bought with the intention of being a treat last weekend. Didn't really like it and only had the 1, but it has ended my run of AFDs.


    So still on 10/28 today


    Thanks Baileys
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    July targets - 28 AFDs, 31 TAFDs
    New challenge from 10th July - Lose 1 pound per week for 10 weeks!
    • cathybird
    • By cathybird 11th Jul 18, 5:15 PM
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    What works for me is to have meals piled high with veg to edge out the carbs. I don't cut them out completely just try for once a day and a small amount.
    Originally posted by maman
    Maman, that sounds eminently sane. I know if I try to give up bread/potatoes altogether it just doesn't work.

    I don't think there's anything wrong with carbs if you have an active enough lifestyle. It's when your diet it 80% carbs and your idea of exercise is running to the car when it's raining - then you're in trouble!!
    Fatrab, ha ha
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    • Honey Bear
    • By Honey Bear 11th Jul 18, 8:06 PM
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    I agree about carbs, FatRab and Maman, they're fine in moderation. But I can't do moderation! Once I've shifted this 5kgs I'll re-evaluate but I'm sick to death of dragging it around and I genuinely don't overeat that much, it's just that I did about ten years ago (severe stress) and have never shifted it since. Once it's gone I'll be able to eat fairly normally again and that'll include potatoes, chips, Twinks hobnobs, pasta and rice.



    Well done WinterSunshine. That sounds about right regarding the sleep thing. I slept for England for a few weeks when I gave up and realised I had been sleeping badly for 10 years, with hindsight. OH slept badly for 20 years after his mother died and only when he cut down to a quarter of the amount he used to drink after I gave up did he realise the miracle was just due to alcohol disturbing his sleep.



    Maman, I seem to remember you had a bit of a tricky time last year after your holiday as well. Hang on in there - you can do this.


    While I was out drinking with my mate the other night and we were both trollied she informed me drunkenly that I really should lose 10kg so that's good to know, I would have said 5kg myself as I'm not that chunky (honest), and to be fair she was talking about herself but just kindly including me in on it ha ha, but I've got a sweet tooth I struggle to deal with, and so am trying to severely minimise sugar myself. Don't know if I should mention this but M*nt*zum*'s do chocolate with no added sugar of any kind (no artificial sweeteners either, 100% chocolate), which I am finding really helps because it has that chocolate thing going on but is very dense and I can't eat that much of it. I'd like to make that my preferred chocolate on a permanent basis, in fact. I'd also like to be fairly low-carb as a general principle but it is tricky - happy to forgo rice and pasta, and indeed other grains, but the thought of never eating bread or potatoes I just find mildly depressing. I might just try to minimise those things, rather than give them up altogether.

    The thing is last I looked the thinnest and longest-lived people on earth, statistically speaking, were the Japanese and they eat quite a bit of white rice - not as much as is widely assumed but carbs do figure in their diet. Also the Scandinavians don't seem to have an obesity problem and they eat loads of bread (mostly rye, it has to be said) and also potatoes. So that makes me wonder how low you really need to go with carbs, just as a matter of general principle. Anyway, just thinking aloud here.
    Originally posted by cathybird

    I love this post! 5 kgs is enough - a realistic decent aim is no more than 10% of one's bodyweight which in my case would be about 6.5 kgs but I prefer the figure 5 so that's what it's going to be. You guys must have been trollied for her to be able to say you needed to lose 10 kgs and not get decked!



    11/31 please, Baileys.
    Keeping it AF
    • maman
    • By maman 12th Jul 18, 11:21 AM
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    You're right HB, it took me months to get rid of last year's holiday gain. This year I was a bit more careful with bread when I was away so I'm hoping it won't be such an uphill struggle.


    Definitely not having a drink today.


    2/10 AFDs please Baileys.
    • beverley1471
    • By beverley1471 12th Jul 18, 11:33 AM
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    I am posting here as I would like to stop drinking, mainly white wine in the evenings. I drink 3 possibly 4 evenings a week, but this has crept up until I now drink a whole bottle of wine which is to much. Both my parents are alcoholics, so I am aware this increases my risk of problems.

    I didnt ever drink in the house until my first husband died, then I started to have the odd glass at home to relax me, and its crept up to what I drink now, which cannot get any worse. My new partner doesnt help, as he encourages me to have a glass at times even though he doesnt drink any alcohol himself, I think he sees it as a treat and doing something nice for me, which I have asked him to stop.

    I have also put on nearly two stones in weight, which I also want to loose and get back in shape. I am thinking about just aiming for a month to begin with, so it seems manageable and then increasing the length of time when I get to a month.

    So here is day one of alcohol free me, I think the weekend is going to be the hardest to not drink on. I don!!!8217;t have a sweet tooth, so I hope that helps me to avoid sugar.
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