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    • Moonpixie
    • By Moonpixie 24th Jan 18, 2:35 PM
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    Anyone with craft fair experience?
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    • 24th Jan 18, 2:35 PM
    Anyone with craft fair experience? 24th Jan 18 at 2:35 PM
    Hi, wondered if anyone has (or has had) and experience with craft or vintage type fairs and any advice or tips?

    I really fancy attending events and fairs and I would be selling wholesale lotions & potions that I would be handcrafting the packaging for.

    The only event I have ever done was a hospital fundraiser about 6yrs ago. I'd not long trained in holistic therapies and was doing massage tasters and selling oils/creams and I really enjoyed having my own little stall.

    Then a while later, I had lots of bits left over, so I made some of the above and took them into work for people to help themselves to, but I made everything look very pretty by handcrafting the packaging and people loved them and left generous donations.

    I've kept meaning to do this and sell at fairs and now I have the time to do so. I would buy wholesale products but make the giftbags/boxes myself.

    TBH, this is not really about making money, but would be great to break even and cover travel expenses.

    What should I primarily look into? Anything I should avoid? And would it be better to just do this seasonal (i.e leading up to the Christmas period)?

    Thanks.
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    • lincroft1710
    • By lincroft1710 24th Jan 18, 2:49 PM
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    • 24th Jan 18, 2:49 PM
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    • 24th Jan 18, 2:49 PM
    I trust you have product liability insurance, you may also need personal liability insurance.
    • Moonpixie
    • By Moonpixie 24th Jan 18, 3:02 PM
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    • 24th Jan 18, 3:02 PM
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    • 24th Jan 18, 3:02 PM
    No, I don't have anything yet as I'm just in the planning stage.

    So, even though the products are covered already, I would still need my own product liability?

    And yes, I'm sure I would need public as I think all sellers have this (or are supposed to).
    • lincroft1710
    • By lincroft1710 24th Jan 18, 3:30 PM
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    • 24th Jan 18, 3:30 PM
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    • 24th Jan 18, 3:30 PM
    As you appear to be repackaging you would need product liability, just to protect yourself financially in case there is something in the packaging which causes injury to the purchaser or other third party.

    Also it would be sensible to familiarise yourself with the 2015 Consumer Rights Act.
    Last edited by lincroft1710; 24-01-2018 at 3:33 PM.
    • Moonpixie
    • By Moonpixie 24th Jan 18, 3:49 PM
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    • 24th Jan 18, 3:49 PM
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    • 24th Jan 18, 3:49 PM
    Thanks. Are you familiar with any good/reasonable insurance providers? When I run a dance group a few years ago, I got in touch with a company who did a comparison thingy and they one the recommended I went with, but then found out is was actually quite expensive compared to other insurers group leaders where using.
    • lincroft1710
    • By lincroft1710 24th Jan 18, 5:54 PM
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    • 24th Jan 18, 5:54 PM
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    • 24th Jan 18, 5:54 PM
    Sorry, don't know any insurers. If you search this board and the "Small Business" board there are threads about craft fairs and I'm sure there is post with some suggestions about insurers
    • savingholmes
    • By savingholmes 2nd Feb 18, 8:27 PM
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    • 2nd Feb 18, 8:27 PM
    Hi MoonPixie - I am in the same boat as you - so hope you get more replies. Hope things go well for you.
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    • Deep In Debt
    • By Deep In Debt 7th Feb 18, 9:13 PM
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    • 7th Feb 18, 9:13 PM
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    • 7th Feb 18, 9:13 PM
    You could try these for insurance.
    https://www.towergateinsurance.co.uk/complementary-therapists-insurance
    I don't have anything to do with them but I knew someone who was a holistic therapist who had insurance with them so I just know the name.
    • C J
    • By C J 8th Feb 18, 12:41 PM
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    • 8th Feb 18, 12:41 PM
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    • 8th Feb 18, 12:41 PM
    I was given some excellent advice by another poster on these boards, which was to join the Market Traders Association which has lots of benefits including free liability insurance as part of their membership perks.

    https://www.nmtf.co.uk/
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    • brexit1986
    • By brexit1986 9th Feb 18, 9:46 AM
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    Four places leap to mind:
    1. The Brooklyn Flea -- a flea market on Saturdays and Sundays that has a variety of vendors, many of whom are pretty crafty. Personally, I recommend the Saturday location in Fort Greene.
    2. Etsy's HQ is in the Brooklyn neighborhood of Dumbo and holds weekly craft nights.
    3. There's a few museums of crafts and design. The names escape me but a bit of googling should turn them up for you.
    4. Pearl Paint on Canal Street. This is an arts and crafts Mecca with 4 or 5 stories crammed with every kind of professional art supply you could imagine.
    • lincroft1710
    • By lincroft1710 9th Feb 18, 2:55 PM
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    Four places leap to mind:
    1. The Brooklyn Flea -- a flea market on Saturdays and Sundays that has a variety of vendors, many of whom are pretty crafty. Personally, I recommend the Saturday location in Fort Greene.
    2. Etsy's HQ is in the Brooklyn neighborhood of Dumbo and holds weekly craft nights.
    3. There's a few museums of crafts and design. The names escape me but a bit of googling should turn them up for you.
    4. Pearl Paint on Canal Street. This is an arts and crafts Mecca with 4 or 5 stories crammed with every kind of professional art supply you could imagine.
    Originally posted by brexit1986
    This is a UK site, the places mentioned may be a little bit further than the Original Poster wants to travel.
    • CapricornLass
    • By CapricornLass 18th Feb 18, 7:21 PM
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    My husband is a woodturner, and we've done a couple of craft shows a year for about 10 years now.

    You are right, you are unlikely to make much of an income (at least, not with woodturning! There may be more of a profit with your type of product). Usually the best we can hope for is that the hobby pays for itself.

    With regards to venue, I would strongly recommend that if possible, you go and visit the event yourself to see if its the sort of venue that fits your product. Personally we avoid most church/village fairs, unless we have a personal connection, i.e. my mum's asked us, and one we do because we just like the atmosphere of the event. Finding a good craft fair isn't easy, but you want to have a look at the footfall, and the quality of the stuff being sold, and also what sort of stalls there are - you don't want the sort where every other stall is jewellery/cards/knitting and sewing and not much else. Similarly, avoid those with 3rd world/fair trade/charity stalls, as they sell stuff for knock-down prices and your punters will expect you to sell your stuff for the same, or even less. You want the sort of events that are promoting British/local crafts if you can. Bear in mind tho that despite all this research, events be very different from year to year, dependent on weather/ what football match is on/how broke people are feeling. You will also find this applies to what you sell - what went well at one fair won't do well at the next, or even at the same fair the next year.

    Our experience of Charity-organised events is that they expect you to pay heavily for the priviledge of taking a stall - where everyone else charges 25, they will charge 45. Some events also demand a raffle prize in addition to paying for the stall which personally I deeply resent. Once many years ago I was also approached by one organiser who expected to take a 20% share of the profits as well as the payment for the table (she got told what she could do with herself). Expect to pay extra for the priviledge of an electrical socket. Some events will provide a table, others a table and one /two chairs, and others just chairs, so be prepared to invest in your own table too.

    Other things to consider; public liability is a must - a lot of the more professional events will not let you sell anything unless you have it, and will demand a copy of the paperwork. You may also be asked to provide a risk assessment of your stall and goods - it doesn't have to be too elaborate, but again they will demand to see it.

    These days, people expect to be able to pay by card as well as cash. I can recommend I-Zettle. Most venues are happy to share the router code, but sometimes the connection isn't good no matter what you try.

    I always take our own sandwiches and often a flask/bottle of water. You may be lucky and be offered a cup of tea by the organiser, but don't depend on it! If you have a very good friend/willing partner, its worth taking them along to help you with manning the stall, - its useful if you need to go to the loo, as well as helping with the rush. You will find that most stall-holders are very friendly, - you can have some very interesting conversations during the slack periods!

    Good luck.
    • MissPop
    • By MissPop 18th Feb 18, 8:13 PM
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    +1 to everything CapricornLass has said!

    Fair organisers (the ones worth participating in, anyway) will vet you and your products, to avoid having 20 jewellery stalls and nothing else, etc. I do wonder how they would perceive a wholesale-bought product in handmade packaging - some may not consider that a handmade/crafted product.

    I'll be really honest, it gets my goat to see stalls selling mass-produced/wholesale/not handmade products at craft fairs, although some fairs do seem to be mainly that kind of thing. Depends on the fair and the crowd.
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    • savingholmes
    • By savingholmes 19th Feb 18, 8:21 AM
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    How much do you pay for your insurance - and where did you get it? Obviously there are loads of insurers out there but I am interested in what is considered reasonable.

    Most of my items are likely to be decorated glass that can be used with cork bottle lights or other battery lights. I may experiment with candle making but I am not convinced that it will add profit - unless I sell them as separates...
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    • CapricornLass
    • By CapricornLass 23rd Feb 18, 3:59 PM
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    We've used Ian Wallace Insurance for about 5 years now. They are online http://craftinsurance.co.uk However I think what you pay depends on the level of cover and what you are protecting.


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    • Superman81
    • By Superman81 27th Feb 18, 8:41 AM
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    Hi, I did not sell lotions before.As a guy who sees a lotion, I probably like to have a lotion that impress a girl with the suppleness of my skin after using it. For a lady, I believe it is the same. Perhaps, writing the benefits at the bottle could help. Or a big banner wording may help. But the best is to have a few beautiful friends that used your lotion and are using it at your counter.
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